Miami- Key largo race 2006 (only beach catamarans in this listing, mono's have been deleted)

The order on times are the finishing order; NO handicap calculations were applied.

Finish # Last First Boat Name Made by Type Rating

-1- 10:36:29 030 ROBERTS ERIC ARC 30 0.531
-2- 10:46:02 085 ROBERTS BILL ARC 22 0.570
-3- 10:47:55 086 KELLEY MIKE SUPERCAT 22 0.570
-4- 10:54:10 020 SCHIEFER CARLA M-20 0.580
-5- 10:54:48 089 TIERNEY / BREW MIKE / RC 27 0.560
-6- 10:59:22 018 RODRIGUEZ ENRIQUE TORNADO 0.590
-7- 10:59:45 039 BAKER MARK NACRA 5.5 0.670
-8- 11:00:25 043 LOHMEYER STEVE INTER 20 0.593
-9- 11:02:18 073 MURRAY / HERNEDEEN TORNADO 0.570
-10- 11:02:50 042 SONNENKLAR J INTER 20 0.593
-11- 11:03:22 060 ESQUIVEL JOHN TORNADO 20 0.590
-12- 11:04:28 014 MAYO CLIVE MARSTROM A-CAT 0.620
-13- 11:07:59 025 GREENE TERRY INTER 20 0.593
-14- 11:08:42 012 LEFUR ALEX INTER 20 0.593
-15- 11:12:58 023 LANGEFELD KARL NACRA 6.0 0.590
-16- 11:13:12 058 NEWLYN MARC NACRA 6.0 0.601
-17- 11:14:08 036 MCKNIGHT JOHN HOBIE 20 0.650
-18- 11:23:45 094 ARGERGAST ERIC ARC 21 0.617
-19- 11:25:37 105 LIPKUS MARK REYNOLDS 33 0.72
-20- 11:27:20 079 MOSS BRET MARSTROM A-CAT 0.620

[color:"red"] -21- 11:30:08 017 ROBLES WILDER VMI BLADE F16 0.657 [/color]

-22- 11:38:30 051 BECKMANN CARLOS HOBIE 16 0.760
-23- 11:41:21 061 RUSSELL DOUG HOBIE 16 0.760
-24- 11:43:31 067 MAFFETONE STEVEN 0.760
-25- 11:43:49 154 NEWBERRY SARAH HOBIE 16 0.760
-26- 11:45:25 139 WHITE DAVE NACRA 6.0 0.626
-27- 11:47:36 037 STOLBERG BILL HOBIE 16 0.760
-28- 12:00:33 011 CORSON SCOT HOBIE 16 0.760
-29- 12:17:13 127 DE LA CAMARA FERMIN FELIA PRINDLE 19 0.664
-30- 12:23:50 137 FARBER LARRY INTER 20 0.593
-31- 12:26:47 095 CORRAL GUSTAVO PRINDLE 19 0.664
-32- 12:40:13 090 ROOTS JULIAN HOBIE 16 0.760
-33- 12:43:37 064 HARRINGTON NICHOLAS NACRA 5.8 0.637
-34- 13:12:37 005 COOPER L.S. G-CAT 20 0.626
-35- 13:54:35 055 SUKPHISIT PECK PRINDLE 16 0.775


-36- DNF 076 PHILLIPS MICHAEL MARSTROM M-20 0.580
-37- DNF 097 LOYA IVAN TORNADO 20 0.590
-38- DNF 002 WATTS MARTIN MARSTROM M180.646
-39- DNF 151 KENNEDY MICHAEL PRINDLE 19 0.645
-40- DNF 092 HALEY BARRY NGILANDELE HOBIE 16 0.760
-41- DNF 152 DERDERIAN R HOBIE 16SE 0.760
-42- DNF 041 LAUGHLIN ROY AQUARIUS SUPERCAT 19XC 0.690
-43- DNF 098 CARVALMO JUAREZ PRINDLE 16 0.775
-44- DNF - WD 063 RUSSELL DICK HOBIE 16 0.760
-45- DNS 093 REYNOLDS ELIAS BLEW BAYOU NACRA 6.0 0.626

It looks like he will do very well on corrected time!

Anybody know how to do the math?

I am certain Wouter is working on it right now! He's pretty good at that. Did I read that right? The Blade (.65) rates FASTER than the Reynolds 33 (.72) ?? How can that be?

Found this post from Robi on the
CABB forum.

F-16 Blade, Wilder Robles and crew

We got to the beach around 7am, we scrambled to get the boat ready and the sails hoisted. We pushed off the beach with 15 minutes to start. Luckily everything was setup correctly. At the starting line, we did start within the fleet, pretty much dead smack in the middle. Seeing how I was being shadowed by such bigger boats and sails, I had to get out of there quick. We decided to foot our course. We bared off in pursuit of speed. It paid off tremendously. At about Turkey Point we had a lead on various boats that were in front of us at the starting line. Not having any local knowledge of the area, we were faced with a huge question/challenge; WHICH way to go around the small islands. Our course had set up on a collision path with an island and shallow water. We pulled our boards up and started pinching. We dropped speed and got stuck in a bad, NO WIND hole. At this point this is where all the boats we had a good lead on, passed right by us. A few errors on our behalf and a low wind situation equals a slow F16. This was our case. We were NOT going anywhere any time soon. Slowly all the other boats were zipping by. We did some minor changes on the boat and we started getting better speed. At this point it was too late in the race. We passed under card sound bridge and headed straight to the finish line.

Fun race plus awesome winds equals the sail of a lifetime. Those who missed this race missed an excellent opportunity to go out and see FL from a different perspective.

v/r
Wilder S. Robles
www.wildergfx.com

are the times given, finishing times (as in time of day) or elapsed times ?

Wouter

Time of day.

So...what time did it start? 08:00?

Dunno. Guess we'll have to wait on CABB!

Wouter

Good effort anyway!! There are some tough H16 sailors down in Miami!

Since the race results do not show it, I would just like to point out that in the right conditions, a F16 can hold it's own with the Nacra 6.0 and Hobie 20. During the first 14.5 of 41 miles on a close reach with 14-17 knot winds, we were able to pass the Hobie 20 from behind and leeward being an eighth mile directly ahead at the Featherbank channel. Additionally, we were making ground from behind and leeward on the Nacra 6.0s getting within a hundred yards directly behind at the same channel. After that everyone went different routes with ours being the slowest.

Anyway, I was impressed that a 16 footer moved as well. Up to the channel, the GPS was showing speeds in the 12-13.5 knot range. At some point in the race the GPS recorded a max speed of 17 knots. It's not 20 knots, but with the wind conditions, I think it's pretty good.

Glad to get the specifics!

If you had followed one of the other boats, how well would you have finised overall? Best guess?

If the race covers a distance of 41 miles (landmiles) then you were doing an average speed of 19 kph = 12 mph = 10 knots. Which is pretty high is you were caught in a windhole for some time.

On a F16 you should be able to continiously match the windspeed in boatspeed when the wind blows between 10 and 20 knots. With the right trim you can push it a just little further then that. Below 10 knots of wind the F16's can achieve 150 % boatspeed and higher with some normal trimming.

Sounds like you guys are getting into the groove. The best part is that there is even more performance to expect at this point.

Geert on his Blade F16 and myself on my Taipan F16 achieved some 18 knots boat speed in some 15 knots of wind last year; under spinnaker.

Best of winds at Ricks seminar !


Wouter

Sorry, in one case I used statute miles and the other nautical miles. The distance to the Featherbed channel was 14.5 nautical miles of a 35 nautical mile race.

Pete, I truly believe we could have been 15 minutes faster if we had followed the Nacra 6.0 through Midnight Pass. It is one of those typical cases of could of / would of / should of, but didn't.

Wouter, I think you meant 19 kph instead of 19 mph.

Yeah Jamie, if we would have followed that nacra 6.0 we would have killed so many other boats.

Sadly NOT knowing the area is a big issue. Next year, I will be cutting right through that corner.

Second place in my class aint too shabby either.

Well done!

Now that I'm back on the computer, I can see why the H16s were able to avoid Featherbank channel. You can stay West of the channel by staying West of the adjoining bank, ie. waypoint 25 32.0 N, 80 15.9 W. Then stay East of Pelican Bank, ie. waypoint 25 26.9 N 80 16.85 W and head for Midnight Pass. You just need to ask if there is a favored side to Midnight Pass or if you just go down the middle. You can download the chart at:

http://nauticalcharts.noaa.gov/mcd/Raster/Index.htm

Chart 11451 covers Biscayne Bay and you will need to download a a program (links on site) to read it. The Maptech software seems to work well. This stuff is not intended for navigation, but it appears to be quite good with the cursor giving the LAT/LON numbers. Much easier than using a divider on a physical chart.

just keep on chasing those 6.0s
Robi, I told you my boat eats your type for breakfast

p.s. wanna trade boats?

Na, your daggerboards weigh as much as my mast does! LOL

Your jib is as big as my spinnaker! NA!

That womper of yours, I can use it as a roof for my house! LOL

Ill pass Pat

Come to think of it. Those Nacra 6.0 NE spinnakers are by themselfs larger then all the sail area on your boat combined, Robi. This must account for at least SOME headway !

Would look pretty foolish otherwise.

Wouter