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Spi for 430/F14 #73813
04/30/06 06:31 PM
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Being made as we speak finally. Should be ready by the end of the week. I'm getting the slightly fuller kite. I now have the winter four months to set it up and get used to sailing with it. I actually built a scale setup to check dimensions etc. I've got a new design concept for the pole and snuffer I'm working on. More on that later.
Anyone interested, I'll keep you posted.

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Re: Spi for 430/F14 [Re: Berny] #73814
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Photo's Berny??

Re: Spi for 430/F14 [Re: Darryl_Barrett] #73815
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Yes Darryl, as soon as I get it sorted.
Got a bit of vid footage Anzac day at the Yarra Bay regatta, ie me smoking a H16 downwind in 22 knotts
I flipped it on the jibe mark though and DNF'd.

Re: Spi for 430/F14 [Re: Berny] #73816
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spinnaker setups arnt that hard im 12 and i rigged one up on my friends maricat i attatched some pics

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Re: Spi for 430/F14 [Re: cat_sailing_4eva] #73817
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I'm impressed. The Mari looks very cool with a kite. Is that on Lake Macquarie?

Re: Spi for 430/F14 [Re: cat_sailing_4eva] #73818
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That spinnaker set looks very nice. Have you thought of using the same perimeter cut kite but much flatter? Your absolutely correct though when you say that it isn't hard to set up a kite on a cat. I makes you wonder what is stopping all the other cat sailers from doing the same? especially on existing 14' cats where the difference in performance is so noticable.

Re: Spi for 430/F14 [Re: Darryl_Barrett] #73819
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that is our medium we have a much bigger assimetrical cherub kite that was to flat for the cherub the performance differents in light winds is a lot bigger than in the heavy stuff

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Re: Spi for 430/F14 [Re: cat_sailing_4eva] #73820
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yeah its on lake maquarie wangi guess what they cancelled our best regatta the polar bear coz the f18 sailers weren't very polite to the race commitee last time

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Re: Spi for 430/F14 [Re: cat_sailing_4eva] #73821
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So who is on the boat in the pics?

Re: Spi for 430/F14 [Re: cat_sailing_4eva] #73822
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Are you able to put the spin up by yourself whilst sailing or is it a 2 person job on the Maricat.

Re: Spi for 430/F14 [Re: NickS] #73823
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its me trimming and my friend grant who owns the boat is steering i hav a hobie 14 turbo yeah u can put it up by urself but its preety hard

Re: Spi for 430/F14 [Re: cat_sailing_4eva] #73824
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Cat sailing 4eva- saw your post and tried to find some info about the Gemini 14. Couldn't find anything about them. Do you know if they are an Australian Catamaran. Do they have dagger boards or are they an asymetrical hull and don't require them? What is it made of? Are you going to put a spinnaker on the hobie? Regards Nick

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This is all I could find in search on Gemini 14.

http://www.dngoodchild.com/5284.htm

Doug

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the gemini doesnt look anythin like that it does hav daggerboards the one that i sailed has new sails and a huge rig it will hav a #3 16foot skiff kite on it um i tried the spin on the hobie it wasnt to good no where near as good as the maricat

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Re: Spi for 430/F14 [Re: ] #73827
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Na that's a different Gemini Doug. The one Nic is asking about is a 14ft boat built by Bill Nocholl of Wangie on L. Macquarie. This boat, plus another 14 built by AHPC, all appeared about the same time I put the 430 on the water. I don't think they are available any more. The geminis are a moulded glass boat with dagger boards and went well with lighter crew as did the one by Jim Boyer. Ian Marcovich had a lot to do with the Gemini early on. Ian now sails Paper Tigers and I haven't heard from Bill for some years. The AHPC product disapeared too.
It's a hard school here in the backwaters.

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Re: Spi for 430/F14 [Re: Berny] #73828
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Thanks Berny! I have a set of sails ordered from Geof Adams for another F14 and when I rang them this week they have put your spinnaker ahead of mine!! Puts me back a week. That’s OK though; I understand that you are driving up there to pick it up on Sunday? From talking to them I understand that yours will be the same as the green one that we put up a few months back? That spinnaker works really well, it takes a little getting used of setting it so that the luff works properly. That's because of it's slight extra "fullness" and luff “shoulders”, but once you work it out with the right tension on the halyard (don't set it with the halyard/luff pulled "tight") it really "gets up and fly's".
They asked me for the position points for the retrieval line on the kite, so I measured where we had them then told them something entirely different!!! That will teach you to “jump the queue” (only kidding)
Darryl

Re: Spi for 430/F14 [Re: Berny] #73829
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If memory serves me, the Gemini wasn’t a 14’ cat but measured a touch over 15’ and that was its “Achilles heel”, it didn’t fit any “recognised” size. It didn’t race against the 14’ cats sailing at the time and it wasn’t competitive against the 16’ cats. A bit like the Prindle 15’ around the same time - an odd size – and neither of them gained much of a following because of that.

Re: Spi for 430/F14 [Re: Darryl_Barrett] #73830
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Nuer, I had my order in weeks ago but because I was still working on the pole and stuff Geof held off making it and anyway I told them to put the patches in different places to yours with a different setup sussed from my scale model .

Re: Spi for 430/F14 [Re: Darryl_Barrett] #73831
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um this gemini was made by bill but was modified after building and is 14' they cut the front of and made the bows straight a great improvement

Re: Spi for 430/F14 [Re: cat_sailing_4eva] #73832
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can u post some pics of ur setups when ur finished i wanna see wat everyone is runnin

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