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Re: F18 Worlds starts today!!!!!! [Re: scooby_simon] #79696
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Oh noooo.... Looks like Greg and Jacques had a bad day. Down at 19th sucking up some pretty bad finishes. 68 / 4 / 44 No report as to why. Wow. worst race before that was an 11th. Something went wrong.


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Do we have new F18 world champions ? [Re: Tom Korz] #79697
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Are

SACH Helge (M1956)
SACH Christian (M1958)

The new F18 world champions (at age 50 and 48 !!!)

Wouter


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Re: F18 Worlds starts today!!!!!! [Re: TEAMVMG] #79698
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Does Landenberg sail a Capricorn F18 ?

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Re: F18 Worlds starts today!!!!!! [Re: scooby_simon] #79699
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Down here that's called spitting the dummy, bad form when every single country had a waiting list of people wanting to attend just for the fun of it.


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Bad form and bad sportsmanship


Agreed, Very bad form as people (I assume) were queueing up to go to the event. If I was the one on the list who did not meet the cut I'd be (just a tad) pissed off that someone just gave up.


I'm not defending their actions but just pointing out that there was not a waiting list for a slot in the US / Canada.


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Re: F18 Worlds starts today!!!!!! [Re: Jake] #79700
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Down here that's called spitting the dummy, bad form when every single country had a waiting list of people wanting to attend just for the fun of it.


Agreed
Bad form and bad sportsmanship


Agreed, Very bad form as people (I assume) were queueing up to go to the event. If I was the one on the list who did not meet the cut I'd be (just a tad) pissed off that someone just gave up.


I'm not defending their actions but just pointing out that there was not a waiting list for a slot in the US / Canada.


Were there any spare slots available ?


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Re: F18 Worlds starts today!!!!!! [Re: scooby_simon] #79701
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Yeah, not all 160 slots were taken some 2 weeks prior to the event, so they made it an open event (pay and sail).
That caused some stir within some local F18-comittees who wanted to send the boats/sailors who were on their reserve-list.

Re: F18 Worlds starts today!!!!!! [Re: scooby_simon] #79702
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Were there any spare slots available ?


I believe we did fill them all.


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Re: F18 Worlds starts today!!!!!! [Re: Jake] #79703
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What do you think was a reasonable budget estimate for doing the F18 Worlds? Including Reg, Air fair, food and lodging plus the cost of chartering or shippnig your boat and insurance.

Its got to be a signifiant sum!


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Re: F18 Worlds starts today!!!!!! [Re: Mark Schneider] #79704
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What do you think was a reasonable budget estimate for doing the F18 Worlds? Including Reg, Air fair, food and lodging plus the cost of chartering or shippnig your boat and insurance.

Its got to be a signifiant sum!


No doubt! I've not attended anything overseas with my equipment but I've traveled a bit internationally and our company ships a good bit overseas. Off the top of my head; without a big concentrated effort with several teams involved (i.e. an individual effort) you're probably looking at $10,000 by the time you get two (at least) people and boat there, eat and sleep for a week or better, and get back home.

That said, I believe most of the US teams have chartered boats on site.


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Re: F18 Worlds starts today!!!!!! [Re: Jake] #79705
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Were there any spare slots available ?


I believe we did fill them all.


So someone could (maybe) have gone instead of the pair that "just gave up".


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Re: F18 Worlds starts today!!!!!! [Re: scooby_simon] #79706
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There was not anyone else expressing a desire to go.


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Re: F18 Worlds starts today!!!!!! [Re: scooby_simon] #79707
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Before you get too ugly I know in the past month Alex and Nigel traveled to Rotterdam to sail the Extreme 40s, then traveled to Texel to do the Around Texel, flew home then back to France for the F18s. Maybe they were just burnt out.

Anyway, congratulations to Greg and Jacques for a fantastic regatta! Seems just getting in the top 20 is an accomplishment.

Re: F18 Worlds starts today!!!!!! [Re: Jake] #79708
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I'm doing the math for Aus in Feb... About $2k in airfare per person, $1,500 for a charter, $175/night lodging (10 days for $1,750 per room). Beer money still could be largest expense... $10K is a good ball park, Jakers. Wanna go? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: F18 Worlds starts today!!!!!! [Re: John Williams] #79709
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sure! You buyin? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: F18 Worlds starts today!!!!!! [Re: John Williams] #79710
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Beer money still could be largest expense... $10K is a good ball park


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Re: F18 Worlds starts today!!!!!! [Re: David Parker] #79711
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does any one no what boats the top place sailors were sailing at the worlds thanks



Re: F18 Worlds starts today!!!!!! [Re: ratherbsailing] #79712
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Helge Sach / Christian Sach

2 AUS 7 - Hobie
Darren Bundock / Glenn Ashby

3 GER 308 - Capricorn
Andrew Landenberger / Felix Egner

4 FRA 11 - Hobie
Jean Christoph Mourniac / Franck Citeau

5 NED 578 - Nacra Infusion
Wouter Samama / Jeroen Van Leeuwen

Just got this e-mail from Greg Goodall

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Hi all,

Hopefully you have been watching the F18 world’s results; 1st Christian and Helge Sach, and 3rd Andrew Landenberger and Felix Egner was a fantastic result for the Capricorn. We had about 35 boats in the fleet of 160. This made us the 2nd biggest class of F18 at the Worlds and we had by far the best result. We also won 1st place in the silver fleet. It’s good for F18 sailing to show that talented sailors on a very good boat can still beat the professional teams.



We will keep working hard to make the Capricorn even better and faster before the next Worlds. Over the next 12 months we have a great opportunity to establish the Capricorn as the F18 of choice.



To all who have contributed to making this boat such a success, my sincere thanks.



Best regards,

Greg





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Re: F18 Worlds starts today!!!!!! [Re: ratherbsailing] #79713
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does any one no what boats the top place sailors were sailing at the worlds thanks


WHY SHOULD IT MATTER?!?!?!

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WHY SHOULD IT MATTER?!?!?!

You're kidding; right?

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woe be the day when the headlines read:

"HOBIE WINS F18 WORLDS!"

unless of course Mr. Hobie Alter decided to partake in the event himself.

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