| Bowsprit that pivots #86245 10/06/06 11:23 AM 10/06/06 11:23 AM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | Explain the advantage of this on larger cats/monos. The sprit pivots so that the clew is more to windward of the centerline of the boat, correct?
Will this affect sail trim or cut of the sail? Will it affect the trim of the other sails that would be up at the time?
Is this setup designed for more speed, deeper angle, or both?
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#86247 10/06/06 12:25 PM 10/06/06 12:25 PM |
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Posts: 195 Straight Outta Hell | It would help as you build apparent wind, you can run deeper.
I think.
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#86248 10/06/06 02:42 PM 10/06/06 02:42 PM |
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Posts: 1,307 Asuncion, Paraguay | Besides the already mentioned advantages of pivoting to windward to sail deeper angles downwind, pivoting to leeward increases the airflow between mainsail and headsail, providing more power.
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#86249 10/09/06 03:39 PM 10/09/06 03:39 PM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | So, why don't beachcats have pivoting poles?
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#86252 10/09/06 05:37 PM 10/09/06 05:37 PM | Anonymous
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Posts: 1,459 Annapolis,MD | Again, where I have seen this mentioned with people actually working out a system is with the Corsair/Farrier tris.
They find that when racing against keel boats in the light and heavy stuff the keel boats flying symmetrical spins beat them.
In the light air the tris with asymms are sailing faster, but not fast enough to justify the extra distance, and the keel boats just straight line the course.
In the heavy air, you start to bump up against the speed capabilities of the boat making the extra distance just extra distance, and again it's better just to run deep.
Your choices are to carry a symmetrical spin in addition to the asymm sail, which most fly from the bows without a traditional pole, or rig lines to either articulate the pole to windward or leeward or move the tack of the asymmetrical sail between the pole and the windward or leeward bow.
You can also fly an symmetrical spin much higher if the tack is let off. On bigger cats or tris the sail might even be tacked to the leeward hull for light condition upwind work.
Some of this might be worth trying for distance racing, but for the conditions most people race in for bouys you're most likely going to be faster with the asymm used as always. | | |
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