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New & Innovative tramp lacing #91237
12/04/06 12:37 PM
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Isn't it interesting what ppl come up with when using there imagination?


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Re: New & Innovative tramp lacing [Re: _flatlander_] #91238
12/04/06 01:50 PM
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Re: New & Innovative tramp lacing [Re: mbounds] #91239
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whats the purpose of lacing your tramp like that? if you dont mind my asking... also it seems like that design would not be good for big waves, it seems like it would catch on the tramp, or does that not happen, i dont know

Re: New & Innovative tramp lacing [Re: newbiesailor] #91240
12/04/06 04:39 PM
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Wow, is this a joke or did someone really do this on purpose?
I don't think that would work, how did they come up with that?


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Re: New & Innovative tramp lacing [Re: gree2056] #91241
12/04/06 10:31 PM
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Too cheap to buy the third piece of the tramp. It must be really interesting going through a wave and have the tramp act like a scoop. If there's a sudden stop someone may find themselves jammed between the crossbar and the dolphin striker. That would be a picture!


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Re: New & Innovative tramp lacing [Re: hobie1616] #91242
12/04/06 11:24 PM
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I can't imagine how that could possibly help out in any way, I'm thinking someone read the manual upside down, or maybe they're seeing something im not, either way, I would not want to pitch with that, i can just see a leg or foot getting caught and.....ouch........that would be painful.


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Re: New & Innovative tramp lacing [Re: Vinny_M] #91243
12/05/06 12:37 AM
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The dolphin striker is only meant from vertical pressure like from the mast pushing down on the base not horizontal.
So what would happen if you put a few really fat guys on the tramp? Would the dolphin striker be pulled back to the point that the mast would go through the front crossbeam. Now that would be a Kodak moment.

Re: New & Innovative tramp lacing [Re: wildtsail] #91244
12/05/06 01:06 AM
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I can just see this boat now, hull way up in the air, hit a wave, bow dives, then the giant scoop shaped tramp pulls the boat down also once it hits the water. The sailors would be sleeping with the fish quickly.

I just saw this boat for sell on ebay, I was wondering where the pictures were coming from? The boat looks okay other than the odd tramp lacing.


Once you go cat you never go back! Nacra 5.2 (Elsies)#1499, running an inter17 spin!
Re: New & Innovative tramp lacing [Re: gree2056] #91245
12/05/06 09:27 AM
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well my friends just remember that you cant fix stupid


When i was your age Pluto was a planet Blake Johnson 1973 hobie 16 sail 2663
Re: New & Innovative tramp lacing [Re: hititmaestro] #91246
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well im glad to see that im not the only one confused by this strange apparatus, but is that seriously the best reason for doing this???? saving a little cash and not buying a 3rd pieces of cord??? im a poor college kid... but not that poor...

Re: New & Innovative tramp lacing [Re: _flatlander_] #91247
12/07/06 05:52 PM
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Agreed it is not properly laced, but it made me think of what it would be like if the third piece was attached to the front crossbeam and the tramp was laced to it? One benefit would be that the main sheet wouldn't fall through, but that could be easily solved in other ways. A problem would be that the skipper would lose the rear lacing as a place to dig in a heel when flying a hull and not in the trapeze. Thoughts anyone?

Re: New & Innovative tramp lacing [Re: Skipshot] #91248
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I've seen it done in the deep, dark past but can't remember the justification.


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Re: New & Innovative tramp lacing [Re: hobie1616] #91249
12/07/06 10:16 PM
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There wouldnt be anywhere for the water to drain on the old vinyl tramps.....that would really stink, to have to sit in a puddle on a not-so-windy day.....


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Re: New & Innovative tramp lacing [Re: Vinny_M] #91250
12/07/06 10:22 PM
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Yeah, the water would be a problem and that tramp lacing is a great hand hold when the boat starts to pitch forward!! I can just see people sliding forward and getting caught in the lacing!


Once you go cat you never go back! Nacra 5.2 (Elsies)#1499, running an inter17 spin!
Re: New & Innovative tramp lacing [Re: gree2056] #91251
12/08/06 02:12 AM
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ive never had a problem with my tramp draining really, if there is ever any water on it, i just get off of it, and it drains off, but still, is that really the best explanation for that lacing???

Re: New & Innovative tramp lacing [Re: newbiesailor] #91252
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ive never had a problem with my tramp draining really, if there is ever any water on it, i just get off of it, and it drains off, but still, is that really the best explanation for that lacing???


I think the "best explanation" is they bought the boat without the tramp installed and in a testosterone-laden stupor that was their best effort.

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Re: New & Innovative tramp lacing [Re: _flatlander_] #91253
12/08/06 11:56 PM
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Ha!, yeah....thats what i think, maybe they read the manual upside-down or something....who knows?


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