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Re: Too Expensive! [Re: Hans_Ned_111] #98466
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Mate,
I think no matter what you do your going to run foul of ISAF!

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Re: Too Expensive! [Re: Stewart] #98467
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Mate,
I think no matter what you do your going to run foul of ISAF!


Doubt it.

The Cherubs ran a "Inter galactic champs" a few years ago when they wanted to run a worlds, but could not use that name.


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How about a refound? [Re: Stewart] #98468
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... for the guys that travelled the longest distance?

In some classes the two teams that travelled them most km get a serious refound. Partition is everything!


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Re: Too Expensive! [Re: scooby_simon] #98469
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The Cherubs ran a "Inter galactic champs" a few years ago when they wanted to run a worlds, but could not use that name.

Also could not use the name "Global."

Re: Too Expensive! [Re: scooby_simon] #98470
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back then ISAF weren't as aggressive...

Hope your correct but if ISAF decide were bad boys.. Then all will lose their ISAF status...

Re: Too Expensive! [Re: Mary] #98471
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doesnt ISAF also own "global" along with "International"? "National" is owned by the member entity...
Not sure havent looked in a few years... Should be in the rule book,.....

Re: Too Expensive! [Re: Stewart] #98472
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They don't own anything !

They just try to make your life really difficult if you don't do what they want you to do. They can't go after the organisation but they will go after the sailors that did your event and exclude them for life with respect to ISAF sanctioned events.

It is a racket scheme.

Wouter


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Re: Too Expensive! [Re: Wouter] #98473
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agreed... But if they go after the sailors that means every sailor is excluded form any other ISAF approved event... State, National and international events.

Not an issue for non ranked sailors.. BUT a huge issue if a ranked crew sails... Imagine what the fuss would be if the Holland T team sailed and was scrubbed at the olympics because they sailed at the event... Possible yes it has happened.. probable dont know...
If I was a ranked sailor I definately would think 4 times before attending....

Re: Too Expensive! [Re: Stewart] #98474
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agreed... But if they go after the sailors that means every sailor is excluded form any other ISAF approved event... State, National and international events.

Not an issue for non ranked sailors.. BUT a huge issue if a ranked crew sails... Imagine what the fuss would be if the Holland T team sailed and was scrubbed at the olympics because they sailed at the event... Possible yes it has happened.. probable dont know...
If I was a ranked sailor I definately would think 4 times before attending....


It's not just ranked sailors, it is anyone with a ISAF sailing number. I have one and so do (to a certain extent) have to be carefull.


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Re: Too Expensive! [Re: scooby_simon] #98475
02/13/07 03:07 PM
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Simon please check your mail box


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Re: Too Expensive! [Re: Hans_Ned_111] #98476
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Simon please check your mail box


Hans, We never managed to make contact again last night. I will be on Skype for about 30 minutes


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Looking for inexpensive camping sites ? [Re: scooby_simon] #98477
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I was asked about alternative camping sites to the Zandvoort event. Now I'm not down with the tourist info of this area but I don remembered a camping site a little outside of the town of zandvoort.

It is the camping site vogelenzang and their prices seen very reasonable.

(look under the header :"Toeristische plaatsen")

http://www.vogelenzang.nl/ned/tarieven.htm

This site is about 8 km from the sailclub and that is a 30 min bike ride. I actually live that far from the club myself and cycle to it quite a few times to the club per year. The bike path you'll take from this site goes through a naturpark and the dunes and so it should be a very pleasant ride. Otherwise you can take your car and do about 8 km (by a different route) that way.

Best will be of course if more crews are at this site and you all share one vehicle. Car parking for the whole day just behind the club (100 mm walk) is 6 euro's. 7 days times 6 euro's will be 42 Euro's of car parking for the whole event.

The camping site itself is part of an area that is very much like the nature park itself and very pretty. It often reminds me of England and I do like it myself alot.

Maybe some of you want to check this alternative our further.

Wouter


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Re: Too Expensive! [Re: Jalani] #98478
03/15/07 07:47 AM
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Is there an other measurer in the Netherlands besides P.Saarberg ?

Re: Too Expensive! [Re: Mirjam] #98479
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Mirjam,

You can let the boat be measured by any official "watersportverbonds"measurer who is using the F16 measurement form. A sample of this form will be available on the F16 website very soon. If you need more information please contact me and i will help you further with this.


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