Announcements
New Discussions
Best spinnaker halyard line material?
by '81 Hobie 16 Lac Leman. 03/31/24 10:31 AM
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
Hop To
SCHRS revisions are now posted on the website #99946
03/04/07 07:35 AM
03/04/07 07:35 AM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,528
Looking for a Job, I got credi...
scooby_simon Offline OP
Hull Flying, Snow Sliding....
scooby_simon  Offline OP
Hull Flying, Snow Sliding....
Carpal Tunnel

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,528
Looking for a Job, I got credi...
All,

It gives me great pleasure to announce that the revisions to the ISAF Small Catamaran Handicap Rating System (SCHRS) have been uploaded to the SCHRS website .

We have updated the rule set as well, this can be found here

We have also calculated a selection of ratings for the boats that we believe we had have a complete set of ratings points for, this can be found on the website soon.
If your boat is listed without a rating, we should indicate on the list the rating point we are missing. Please send that to me, I can be contacted by following this [email]simon@schrs.com?subject=Information%20request%20from%20SCHRS%20Web%20Site&Body=Please%20type%20your%20Message%20here" target="_blank[/email]

We are also putting the final polish to a utility that will allow you to calculate the expected rating for a given set of rating points; this is yet to be uploaded to the website, but will be available soon, I will advise when this has been uploaded.

We have also collated a list of FAQ's that we think people may ask, this can be found here.


I would like to thank all the members of the SCHRS Rule Management Group for there assistance in formulating the new ruleset:

Simon Longstaff – Chairperson, U.K.
Olivier Bovyn - ISAF Rep., France
Colin Whitehead – Member, South Africa
Olly Harris - Technical, U.K.
Jason Smithwick - ISAF Rep. and Technical, U.K.
David Chivers - Measurer
Simon Forbes - ISAF Staff
Geoff Balfré - Web Site


F16 - GBR 553 - SOLD

I also talk sport here
-- Have You Seen This? --
Re: SCHRS revisions are now posted on the website [Re: scooby_simon] #99947
03/05/07 03:12 PM
03/05/07 03:12 PM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,528
Looking for a Job, I got credi...
scooby_simon Offline OP
Hull Flying, Snow Sliding....
scooby_simon  Offline OP
Hull Flying, Snow Sliding....
Carpal Tunnel

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,528
Looking for a Job, I got credi...
Due to a number of related issues and the meltdown in the financial markets (meaning I had to do a shed load of extra work today) the new rating numbers will not be on the website tonight.

All I can do is offer my sincere apologies as I did say they would be there. These will be there tomorrow.


F16 - GBR 553 - SOLD

I also talk sport here
SCHRS [Re: scooby_simon] #99948
03/06/07 09:08 AM
03/06/07 09:08 AM
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 64
W
wirebound Offline
journeyman
wirebound  Offline
journeyman
W

Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 64
Simon, is it today or tonight? you have me going to the SCHRS web site like a yo-yo

Last edited by wirebound; 03/06/07 11:55 AM.
Re: SCHRS [Re: wirebound] #99949
03/06/07 03:28 PM
03/06/07 03:28 PM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,528
Looking for a Job, I got credi...
scooby_simon Offline OP
Hull Flying, Snow Sliding....
scooby_simon  Offline OP
Hull Flying, Snow Sliding....
Carpal Tunnel

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,528
Looking for a Job, I got credi...
Quote
Simon, is it today or tonight? you have me going to the SCHRS web site like a yo-yo


Continued lunacy in The City today.

Sorry, the numbers will be up tonight at approx 23:00 UK time.


F16 - GBR 553 - SOLD

I also talk sport here
Re: SCHRS [Re: scooby_simon] #99950
03/07/07 05:22 AM
03/07/07 05:22 AM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 254
Gower, Wales, UK
sailwave Offline
enthusiast
sailwave  Offline
enthusiast

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 254
Gower, Wales, UK
Posted on behalf of scooby_simon, who is currently unavailable due to the continued lunacy - that's the financial markets of course, not him... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
----------------------


I am pleased to be able to announce that the 2007 SCHRS ratings are now available on the website:-

www.schrs.com?page=ratings

One FAQ is missing from the site:-

Q: Why are two values given for "A-Class", based on two specific designs?

A: The Class rules for A-Class are very open and every boat should have it's own SCHRS rating and certificate. These values, for a current design at 2006 and another common older design, are published for guidance to show the range of ratings.

Simon L

Re: SCHRS [Re: sailwave] #99951
03/07/07 05:26 AM
03/07/07 05:26 AM
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 254
Gower, Wales, UK
sailwave Offline
enthusiast
sailwave  Offline
enthusiast

Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 254
Gower, Wales, UK
And I am, in turn, able to announce that the Sailwave SCHRS rating calculator has been updated if you want to fiddle with parameters and see what happens. There is also a SCHRS 2007 rating file on the resources page.

sailwave.com?page=download
sailwave.com?page=resources

[Linked Image]

Re: SCHRS [Re: sailwave] #99952
03/09/07 07:45 AM
03/09/07 07:45 AM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,528
Looking for a Job, I got credi...
scooby_simon Offline OP
Hull Flying, Snow Sliding....
scooby_simon  Offline OP
Hull Flying, Snow Sliding....
Carpal Tunnel

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,528
Looking for a Job, I got credi...
Get those questions in quick; I'm off skiing at the weekend and will not be checking my email / Catsailor for about 9 days, sloppy I know, but I need to ski....


F16 - GBR 553 - SOLD

I also talk sport here
Re: SCHRS [Re: scooby_simon] #99953
03/09/07 08:15 AM
03/09/07 08:15 AM
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 915
Dublin, Ireland
Dermot Offline
old hand
Dermot  Offline
old hand

Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 915
Dublin, Ireland
Quote
Get those questions in quick; I'm off skiing at the weekend and will not be checking my email / Catsailor for about 9 days, sloppy I know, but I need to ski....

Simon, Enjoy the skiing <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Can you throw any light on the questions I asked on the F16 forum - see below.

Quote
With the list as it is, it is dificult to see what configuration we are talking about.
Lets take one class for example: Dart 16.
You can say:
Dart 16 (or Sloop) and you are talking about a Dart 16 with 2 sails and 2 crew.
Dart 16, Cat boat, That is a Dart 16 with 1 sail and 1 crew (the definition of a cat boat is a boat with 1 sail.)
Dart 16 SPi, Dart 16 2 crew, main, jib & spi.
When people started sailing the Dart 15 singlehanded with 2 sails, it was called a Dart 15 Sprint.
There are references to F16 Cat boat and FX-one cat boat - this should be the 1 crew, 1 sail version, but it seems to be referring to the boat, singlehanded with a spinnaker <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />.
Am I completely wrong here ?

P.S. A Dart 16 Cat Boat has "no rating" - This is just a Dart 16 with 1 crew and 1 sail - there must be a number for that ! The Dart 18 Cat boat is listed (1 Crew, 1 sail)


Dermot
Catapult 265
Re: SCHRS [Re: Dermot] #99954
03/09/07 08:26 AM
03/09/07 08:26 AM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,528
Looking for a Job, I got credi...
scooby_simon Offline OP
Hull Flying, Snow Sliding....
scooby_simon  Offline OP
Hull Flying, Snow Sliding....
Carpal Tunnel

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,528
Looking for a Job, I got credi...
I plan to enjoy it.

Me and a Mate are planning a few days OP with a guide, maybe even a Heliwopper if we are feeling rich.

As for ratings

Boat No. Crew WS AL WL WM VLM CJ VLJ CSPI CB VLB BEAM NUMTRAP Rating
Dart 16 2 135 4.8 4.8 11.75 7.05 2.6 4.4 0 0 0 2.3 1 1.263

Boat No. Crew WS AL WL WM VLM CJ VLJ CSPI CB VLB BEAM NUMTRAP Rating
Dart 16 Spi 2 140 4.8 4.8 11.75 7.05 2.6 4.4 12.55 0 0 2.3 1 1.233


Boat No. Crew WS AL WL WM VLM CJ VLJ CSPI CB VLB BEAM NUMTRAP Rating
Dart 16 Sprint 1 140 4.8 4.8 11.75 7.05 2.6 4.4 12.55 0 0 2.3 1 1.127


Not sure why there is no rating for the "D16 cat boat"; i'll Make enquires


F16 - GBR 553 - SOLD

I also talk sport here
Re: SCHRS [Re: scooby_simon] #99955
03/09/07 10:41 AM
03/09/07 10:41 AM
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 915
Dublin, Ireland
Dermot Offline
old hand
Dermot  Offline
old hand

Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 915
Dublin, Ireland
Simon,
It's descriptions I am talking about.
Dart 18 Cat Boat means a Dart 18 with 1 sail and one crew.
Hobie FX-1 Cat Boat seems to mean a FX-1 with 1 Crew with a Main - and a Spinnaker.
So what does "Cat Boat" mean.


Dermot
Catapult 265
Re: SCHRS [Re: Dermot] #99956
03/09/07 11:37 AM
03/09/07 11:37 AM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,528
Looking for a Job, I got credi...
scooby_simon Offline OP
Hull Flying, Snow Sliding....
scooby_simon  Offline OP
Hull Flying, Snow Sliding....
Carpal Tunnel

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,528
Looking for a Job, I got credi...
Quote
Simon,
It's descriptions I am talking about.
Dart 18 Cat Boat means a Dart 18 with 1 sail and one crew.
Hobie FX-1 Cat Boat seems to mean a FX-1 with 1 Crew with a Main - and a Spinnaker.
So what does "Cat Boat" mean.


Ahhh; OK, we've not looked at the "descriptions" of the boats, once the clickabe list is up this will hopefully become obvious what each configuration is.


F16 - GBR 553 - SOLD

I also talk sport here
Re: SCHRS [Re: scooby_simon] #99957
03/09/07 12:25 PM
03/09/07 12:25 PM
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 915
Dublin, Ireland
Dermot Offline
old hand
Dermot  Offline
old hand

Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 915
Dublin, Ireland
Thanks Simon - Now get off and enjoy your Holiday <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


Dermot
Catapult 265
Re: SCHRS [Re: Dermot] #99958
03/09/07 12:48 PM
03/09/07 12:48 PM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,528
Looking for a Job, I got credi...
scooby_simon Offline OP
Hull Flying, Snow Sliding....
scooby_simon  Offline OP
Hull Flying, Snow Sliding....
Carpal Tunnel

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,528
Looking for a Job, I got credi...
Quote
Thanks Simon - Now get off and enjoy your Holiday <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


I will;

I have plans to go OP with a guide if I can.

Spend some time flying (and landing the right way up with a bit of luck)

And going fast too. Got the GPS with me and hope to get some nice speeds on clear pistes.


F16 - GBR 553 - SOLD

I also talk sport here
Re: SCHRS [Re: scooby_simon] #99959
12/14/07 03:57 AM
12/14/07 03:57 AM
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 64
W
wirebound Offline
journeyman
wirebound  Offline
journeyman
W

Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 64
So Simon, SCHRS 2007 worked well, what new idea's can we expect for 2008? Or are we in Limbo over the ISAF question?

Re: SCHRS [Re: wirebound] #99960
12/14/07 05:39 AM
12/14/07 05:39 AM
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,528
Looking for a Job, I got credi...
scooby_simon Offline OP
Hull Flying, Snow Sliding....
scooby_simon  Offline OP
Hull Flying, Snow Sliding....
Carpal Tunnel

Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,528
Looking for a Job, I got credi...
Quote
So Simon, SCHRS 2007 worked well, what new idea's can we expect for 2008? Or are we in Limbo over the ISAF question?


There are some minor tweaks planned but nothing major and will not effect most classes. Just got to find time to get it specced up and approved at ISAF. Work is getting in the way of sailing and so things are taking a bit of a back seat at present.


F16 - GBR 553 - SOLD

I also talk sport here

Moderated by  Damon Linkous 

Search

Who's Online Now
0 registered members (), 652 guests, and 96 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Darryl, zorro, CraigJ, PaulEddo2, AUS180
8150 Registered Users
Top Posters(30 Days)
Forum Statistics
Forums26
Topics22,405
Posts267,056
Members8,150
Most Online2,167
Dec 19th, 2022
--Advertisement--
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1