Texel JC 13th-- Trey 28th GO boys GO!!!

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Get 'EM!!!!!!

I think in this case we need to name the whole crews.

John Casey/ Christa van Helden 13th overall in a 59 boat fleet after 6 races. Sailing nacra infusion F18

Trey Brown/ Hugo Dj Le Breton are 28th in the same fleet sailing a nacra Inter-20 One-design.


Christa is a very capable sailor. If she sticks to it (very likely) she will be able to get very far in international sailing. I think she is 23 now so she has got the time to grow. I teamed up with her for one event in the past and let me put it this way : I will decide to do the Round Texel within a heartbeat if she'll team up with me. Even if that means packing the boat up and driving over on friday night after work and sleeping in the bloody car.

And you guys all know how much I dislike doing the round Texel.

I think it is great to see a woman do so well in this sport, we have too few of them.

This will be a very enjoyable Round Texel for JC, he sure knows how to pick (winning) crews !

Wouter

Texel Dutch Open results :

http://rotdominoserver.ti.mon3aan.nl/IIS/finishlists/tdo2007/index.htm#open_ii


Notice how all top 10 places are taking by F18 boats ?

With 11th the M20 GTI (sloop rig)
and 12th the 16 foot Spitfire
with 13th the F18 sailed by Casey/van helden

But he is not the only one having trouble with 16 foot boats.

Our mr. Trey Brown and Hugo Le Breton on the Inter-20 OD (US rig) were beaten in race 3 by team Ruesink/van der Haas sailing a Blade F16; actually the only race the Blades participating in.

Ouch !

For the rest of the races the two Blades score a series of DNS's, reason unknown. Trey did surely better there !

And the Volvo Extreme 20, sailed by Herbert Dercksen and Aaron Mcintosh ?

Well they scored : (60.0 DNC) 18.0 6.0 60.0(DNC) 16.0 6.0

When removing the DNC's an average of 11.5 or 12th spot.


All very interesting !

Wouter

Follow the round Texel Live at :

http://www.roundtexel.com/live.asp


I'm not sure wether this still includes GPS read-outs and live video streams as it did in the past.

Wouter

They have started about an hour again and here is the online video of the start :

http://media.roundtexel.com/eventphoto/gallery/default.asp?NavID=movi


At rounding the VC-bouy (1/3 of the race) none of the Americans ar with the first 38 boat/crews.

First 5 boats at the VC-bouy (elapsed)

-1- M20 GTI (sloop + more area) by Pols/Veenstrs
-2- Normal M20 Flier/Deventer
-3- Volvo extreme 20 Dercksen/Mcintosh
-4- Hobie Tiger F18 Bundock/Ashby
-5- M20 GTI or Eagle 20 (?) Bouscholte/Wieren

First 5 at VC-bouy (corrected)

-1- Hobie Tiger F18 Bundock/Ashby
-2- Nacra Infusion F18 Heemskerk/Tentij
-3- Normal M20 Flier/Deventer
-4- F18 (Tiger ?) Citeau/Mourniac
-5- F18 (?) Zeekant/0skam


Watch this threading as more news will be posted here over the next 90 minutes.

Wouter

Reports are coming in thick and fast and a few errors have been caught.

So in the next two posts I give you the preliminary results that have gone through a first error check.

Wouter

The results are based on the info presented 90 min after the start of the race. Race is still going on.

Elapsed time results



Corrected time results



Wouter

The results are based on the info presented 90 min after the start of the race. Race is still going on.


Elapsed time results.





Corrected time results





Wouter

Wind direction and strength?
Is it a direct upwind leg or a reach after VC mark?

/håkan

Finally John Casey and Christa van Helden (F18) are on the score board !

At the VC-bouy they were 44th on elapsed time, 15 min and 14 sec behind the first boat around this marker (Normal M20). They (Casey/Helden) rounded the marker at 1 hour 13 min and 15 sec.

A 16 foot Spitfire (Sproat/Burke) is hunting them down however. As they are tracking Casey/Helden by a mere 28 seconds. On corrected time the Spitfire is in front of them. Ohhh, I just love 16 foot spinnaker boats ! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> But I bet somebody else we know doesn't.

Casey/Helden got some catching up to do. And we all know they can !

On corrected time they are 37th overall and 12 min and 21 seconds behind the leaders on corrected them. These are ofcourse fellow F18 sailors Bundock and Ashby.

Trey Brown and mr Lebreton are not yet on the listings.

Wouter

The results are based on the info presented 120 min after the start of the race. Race is still going on.


Elapsed time




Corrected time




Wouter

Boys are going for the finish now, won't be long before the first boats finish.

Wouter

håkan

Here the measured data on some weather bouys nearby (well less then 80 km away)

See map to find the locations.




Here are the windspeeds and wind directions :


First K13-Alpha 1 (speeds in m/s, multiply by 2 to get roughtly the speed in knots)






Secondly Ijmuiden end of pier






www.weer.nl (meteo-consult produces this as actual measurements)


[img]http://www.catsailor.com/bb_files/111484-Round_Texel_1500_meteo_consult.jpg[/img]




I would say this is exactly the conditions that the M20's want. Large stretches of pure upwind and downwind work in something like 5-8 knots sustained with gusts to about 10 knots max. Only small reaching legs this race !


Wouter

Thanks for the info Wouter. I'm watching the America's Cup on TV right now, Swiss just rounded A mark first and they are now ahead on the first run. In the far background I saw what looked like a 60' trimaran blasting across the spectator fleet upwind of A mark. Anyone know who that was?

Wouter, do you know why there were so many DNF's in that triangle race, (the 3rd one I think)? Too much wind or too little to finish in time?

Thanks!

Casey/van Helden are slowly moving up :

In my last posting they were 44th / 37th (elapsed/corrected)

Now they are 35th/24th

And on elasped time they are 31 min 22 sec behind the race leaders = M20 GTI

On corrected time they are 15 min 52 sec behind the scoreboard leaders = Tiger F18

This was after roughly 2 hours of sailing.

Just a little more guy-'n-gal !

A top 20 spot is within reach.

I haven't seen Trey Brown and mr. LeBreton in the scoring yet.

Wouter

One bouy race at Texel Dutch Open saw dying winds and a large portion of the fleet couldn't make the cut-off time. At least that is what I was told.

Wouter

I'll bet JC is pissed (in a good way), sawing the main, not talking much and breathing hard. Fun to watch him pick the next boat to pass - you'd think it would be the one right in front of him, but usually it is three boats ahead. The one right in front of him, he's already passed in his head. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I think the wind is dying. No news for almost an hour now and still no-one over the finishline after more then 3 hours of sailing. This is no record run.

Wouter

Here I give you the very preliminary results at the finish still lots of boats have got to finish and surely some of the slower boats will finish very high on the corrected time listing.


Elapsed





Corrected





Wouter

On corrected time it is all F18's as expected.

On elapsed time these are the boat types; as far as I can tell :





Some of these custom boats are getting ridiculous. Hell the Texel rating system already names no less then 13 different versions of the Eagle 20. Next to the M20 we now have the M20 GTI. Pretty much they keep stacking up sailarea a few examples, I start with the inter-20 OD (US rig) as a comparison (also know as nacra 20 large):

Formula 18 mainsail = 17 sq. mtr. jib = 4.15 sq. mtr. spi = 21 sq. mtr.
Inter 20 OD (US size rig) mainsail = 19.18 sq. mtr. jib = 4.85 sq. mtr. spi = 25 sq. mtr.

M20 mainsail = 20.71 sq. mtr jib = no jib, spi = 25 sq. mtr. or so
M20 GTI mainsail = 20.71 sq. mtr. jib = 4.21 sq. mtr. , spi = 25 sq. mtr. or so if not larger

Eagle 20 XXL mainsail = 21.50 sq. mtr, jib = 5.24 sq. mtr, spi = 25 sq. mtr or larger
Eagle 20 Massive (AKA Eagle 20 strbroek large 886) mainsail = 22.94 sq. mtr. , jib = 5.96 sq. mtr. spi = 25 sq. mtr. or even larger

These eagle 20 boats (ready to sail weight around 160 kg) are very close to 30 sq. mtr. upwind sailarea. That is almost 50 % more then the F18's ! And the M20's are 60 kg lighter then the F18's. Despite all that the F18's are still very close after three and halve hours of racing in light wind conditions.

On handicap these line-honours boats are getting killed, only the normal M20's stay relatively close to the top places. Goran Mastrom and J.L. Flier being 11th and 13th on handicap and the volvo extreme 20 at 15th spot. The Eagles drop down to places between 23th and 32nd.

Stacking up more sailarea only goes so far guys, even in light to modest winds.

Wouter

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Well, that's it for me !

Who is the best keyboard sailor of them all ?

That's right !

I still have to do about 6 hours of fuzzy logic controller design so I'm off.

I hope you all enjoyed this coverage of the Round Texel 2007.

I wish I had the results showing the teams Casey/Helden and Brow/Lebreton but I haven't.

We'll just have to wait for the full listings to be released later.

Good luck and bye bye.

Wouter

Thanks for the coverage Wouter, and BTW, while you were busy doing that, the Swiss won the first race of the America's Cup. TNZ won the start but the Swiss got to the first (left side) shift first, and took the lead, never looked back. The Swiss helmsman was Ed Baird, from St. Petersburg, Florida!

Was a strange weather pattern yesterday. I checked with a kite surfer yesterday late afternoon. It was on and off at zandvoort (80 km from Texel) so I feel that may initial guess at the Texel conditions may well be off. Anyway the graphs shown are correct but for locations about 80 km off Texel and it is well possible that that allows a different wind and winddirection at Texel.

We'll just have to wait for the reports and the sailors to say what the conditions really were. But on thing is certain. the conditions were significantly lighter then average Round Texel conditions. That much can be seen from the video and the racing time.

Wouter

source : http://www.roundtexel.com/default2.asp?xlid=en&pid=84&MenuID=6&na=1

"The jubilee edition was sailed in favourable conditions with a south-westerly force three and a calm sea."

Force 3 winds are between 6.6 and 10.5 knots.

South-westerly winds mean that the wind was more or less blowing along the major axis of the island resulting in large legs of upwind and downwind sailing and relatively small reaching legs.

My initial estimate wasn't too far off afterall

Wouter

John Casey / Christa van Helden : Infusion F18 placed 38th / 28th (elapsed / corrected)

They were finished at 03:49:29 (corrected : 3:47:13) and were 19:03 slower then the lead F18 by Bundock/Ashby (also corrected time winners). The time distance to the line honours winners (M20 GTI)is 32:56


Trey Brown / Hugo LeBreton : Inter-20 OD (large sails) placed 57th / 140th (elapsed / corrected)

They finished at 03:55:16 (corrected : 04:07:39); being 39:24 from winning the race on handicap and
51:04 from winning line-honours.

They were the 5th Inter-20 OD (US sail plan) out of 19 such boats. There were also some 35 Formula 20 boats at this event of which 2 finished ahead of Brown/LeBreton.


Interesting to note is that the 16 ft Spitfire sailed by Sproat/Burke was 01:05 behind Brown/LeBreton at the finish line (62nd on elapsed).

Must have been fun racing a 16 foot spinnaker boat for 4 hours while sailing an Inter-20 with US sail plan yourself, in 7-10 knots of wind.

Again it is interesting to note that this Spitfire crew finished 29th on corrected time (29th on corrected) and only 3 seconds behind team Casey/van Helden.

Sorry I just couldn't resist !

Wouter

(P.S. Blades were a little further down the listing so ... BTW, Sproat/Burke are very good sailors indeed)

Casey and van Helden pop up about 20 seconds into the morning overview video. JC made a fatal mistake - wore the wrong hat! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

here the final results

First the elapsed time results and then in the next posting the corrected time results.

These files are too long to display in the posting so click on the attachment to see the listing.

Have fun :


Wouter

These files are too long to display in the posting so click on the attachment to see the listing.

wouter