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Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat

Posted By: ridge_pilot

Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/15/07 11:09 PM

The owner of the sailboat is a close friend of mine. This is the most blatant example of corruption I have ever seen. His fiance was a wonderful person, and none of these sailors did anything to deserve what has happened. Short story is they went out for an evening cruise after a regatta and were hit by a motor boat travelling at close to 50 mph after dark which happened to have a Lake County Sherriff at the helm. Yes, the sailboat had their running lights on. Here is a link to the story: http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=i_team&id=5565603 Latitude 38 has also been covering this. I ask that you do what you can as a member of the sailing community, or as a responsible member of society in general to right this situation. I will restrain my opinions until you have a chance to view the story and also read the blog link listed on the page if you have a chance.
Posted By: ridge_pilot

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/15/07 11:35 PM

Link to part two of ABC story: http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=i_team&id=5569012
Posted By: arbo06

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/16/07 01:01 AM

Ridge Pilot,
I don,t see any mention of the rules of the water and "right of way".

I too was mowed down by a power boat, in broad day light. Luckily we escaped with minor injuries and Post Traumatic Stress.

The case was pretty stright forward.... If his lights were on, as it seems witnesses can testify to, the right of way rules should place the blame where it belongs.
Posted By: warbird

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/16/07 01:55 AM

Manslaughter in this country and the cop would do time.
I was watching American Chopper the other day and the boys were on jet skis in a lake and houses on the lake edge situation. If what they were doing was legal, you guys need to slow things down a lot.
It is 5 knotts 200 metres from shore and 5 knots within 30 metres of another boat out past that here.
Hooning around at 50 in the dark.......stupid just does not cover that.
We had two teenage boys doing the same thing here several years ago and both died when guess what....they hit another boat.

Seem like an idiot killed a nice human being and was then low life enough to blame someone else. Was he checked for alcohol?? I saw a documentary on US drink motorboating that was scary.
Posted By: C2 Mike

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/16/07 02:19 AM


That whole thing sounds like an episode from the "A Team" in the 80's - out to rid some hick town of it's corrupt officials.

Tiger Mike
Posted By: TeamChums

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/16/07 01:11 PM

It is totally disgusting. I was at a scene in Arizona where my brother's neighbor (Maricopa County Sherriff Deputy) crashed his patrol car into a house while drunk and drove off and hid the car in my brother's back yard. There were beer bottles in the car still! Not to mention the house they hit had a hole in it the size of a Crown Victoria. He had about 6 months administrative leave (with pay), so he went back to laying tile (with pay). He returned to full duty and now is on Lake Patrol for the Sherriff's dept. at Lake Pleasant in Az... still a Deputy! I think a hit and run while drinking and driving for the rest of us is a felony. Sworn to uphold the law, while being totally above it! Lee
Posted By: ridge_pilot

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/16/07 05:28 PM

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Ridge Pilot,
I don,t see any mention of the rules of the water and "right of way".


Yes, I can think of several right of way rules, safety and just common sense items that were broken by Perdock in this case. He could just as easily hit a floating log, dock, barge, piling, or the shore for that matter. Amazing that this case has not focused on the negligence of the person admittedly operating a boat at high speed on a moonless night in a heavily used area. To me there is no doubt that he knowingly put himself, his crew, his vessel, and others on the water at risk by operating in such a manner.

It gets even better: According to Latitude 38:

"The deputy has since filed suit against Weber and Bismarck, claiming they caused his divorce and his emotional distress."
Posted By: Will_R

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/16/07 05:58 PM

Besides just the normal "rules of the road" that the powerboat operator broke, lets apply some common sense.

By attesting that the skipper/owner of the sail boat were drunk, they could have caused this? Essentially, they are saying that a leaner in light air could turn so fast as to get in the way of a boat going ~50mph. Not defending drinking and "driving", but... come on... Where is the sanity check?
Posted By: Jake

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/16/07 06:24 PM

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Besides just the normal "rules of the road" that the powerboat operator broke, lets apply some common sense.

By attesting that the skipper/owner of the sail boat were drunk, they could have caused this? Essentially, they are saying that a leaner in light air could turn so fast as to get in the way of a boat going ~50mph. Not defending drinking and "driving", but... come on... Where is the sanity check?


It's akin to being drunk on a bicycle and being hit by a speeding four wheel drive in the middle of an open field and then being blamed for it...actually, it's probably worse than that.
Posted By: ridge_pilot

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/16/07 06:27 PM

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Besides just the normal "rules of the road" that the powerboat operator broke, lets apply some common sense.

By attesting that the skipper/owner of the sail boat were drunk, they could have caused this? Essentially, they are saying that a leaner in light air could turn so fast as to get in the way of a boat going ~50mph. Not defending drinking and "driving", but... come on... Where is the sanity check?


Also, note that no one is accusing the sailboat crew of being drunk, only that their blood alcohol tests were positive. The sherriff's alcohol test came back negative, but was originally dated 24 hrs after the accident occured. This was passed off as a "clerical error".
Posted By: Jake

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/16/07 06:56 PM

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Besides just the normal "rules of the road" that the powerboat operator broke, lets apply some common sense.

By attesting that the skipper/owner of the sail boat were drunk, they could have caused this? Essentially, they are saying that a leaner in light air could turn so fast as to get in the way of a boat going ~50mph. Not defending drinking and "driving", but... come on... Where is the sanity check?


Also, note that no one is accusing the sailboat crew of being drunk, only that their blood alcohol tests were positive. The sherriff's alcohol test came back negative, but was originally dated 24 hrs after the accident occured. This was passed off as a "clerical error".


And I thought I heard in the video that even if it was a clerical error and was dated the day afterwards, he was still at the scene during the time of the blood test if it were in fact the day before.
Posted By: Will_R

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/16/07 08:11 PM

It sounds like total BS, I hope the State DoJ gets involved.
Posted By: warbird

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/16/07 08:23 PM

A learner in light air.
What would any of us do knowing a boat was coming to within 5 metres of us at 50 miles an hour in the dark???!!!!!
Posted By: waterbug_wpb

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/16/07 08:38 PM

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A learner in light air.
What would any of us do knowing a boat was coming to within 5 metres of us at 50 miles an hour in the dark???!!!!!


Flare gun fired at approaching boat's driver. Yes, it's not legal, but damn is it effective (unless there's an auto-pilot engaged).

In my opinion, a flare gun should always be by the skipper or watch captain at night (safety on), if for no other reason than a MOB illumination
Posted By: Will_R

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/17/07 05:12 PM

Ridge Pilot, if you see anymore updates on the news, keep us all informed!!
Posted By: hobie1616

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/17/07 11:56 PM

Check http://www.latitude38.com/LectronicLat/LectronicLat.html Monday, Wednesday and Friday for updates.
Posted By: warbird

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/18/07 12:26 AM

You know law and response to it is always based on the attitude and enrolement of the citezenry.
I am seeing my member of parliament in two weeks and creating a storm about something.
I talk to the people around me about the situation and they are all furious but not one has picked up the phone. The just bend over and....
Sailors in the area might turn up and make their feelings known about this killer, because that is what he is. This woman could have been the loved one of many of us.
My attitude is stuff speedboats. They do not have any god given right to endanger others.
I have used Jet skis and love them. They are great fun. But I never buzz people having a quiet day and I always obey the speed laws. I have never been given the finger or had any other run in....why would I?
I have driven a lot of boats at night. It is a dangerous situation even at slow speeds. A powerful speedboat coming out of a fast turn and into another can be very flighty and if it gets away it is a hundred metres or two before it is back under sensible control.

The judge in this case needs to see what 50 miles an hour vs 5 miles an hour in the dark feels like. Someone might offer to give him a ride.....on both boats!

I am absolutely clear that police deserve our admiration, respect and help....until they see themslves even a little above the law. At that point they need jail and lots of it.
Posted By: Will_R

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/19/07 06:40 PM

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Check http://www.latitude38.com/LectronicLat/LectronicLat.html Monday, Wednesday and Friday for updates.


I may be dense, but I didn't see anything
Posted By: Mary

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/19/07 07:44 PM

August 15
Ch. 7 exposes Lake Co. fiasco
Posted By: hobie1616

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/19/07 09:27 PM

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Check http://www.latitude38.com/LectronicLat/LectronicLat.html Monday, Wednesday and Friday for updates.


I may be dense, but I didn't see anything

They're ocasional updates.
Posted By: MarkW_F18

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/21/07 02:40 PM

Here are a couple more related links

http://www.latitude38.com/LectronicLat/2007/0607/June13/June13.html

http://www.record-bee.com/local/ci_6617896

Boy what an injustice. I can't believe that DA. In the video interview, it is obvious that he is making his own conclusions without getting all the evidence. (or home cooking) When asked why he didn't take the witness statements of the ones that saw running lights, he response is... "well tell us who they are and we'll show you they are wrong." The DA needs to meet the same fate as Nifong did with the Duke Lacrosse case.

The Deputy may be a nice guy and didn't mean to hurt anyone, but he is committing 2 crimes if Dinius is found guilty of manslaughter.
Posted By: warbird

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/21/07 08:27 PM

The copper can't be a nice guy. Charging around at 50 miles an hour in the dark and killing someone and blaming someone else and being a "nice guy" are mutually exclusive.
This story will have legs...just keep at it media and anyone else...keep chasing the rats up the drain pipes and they will end up with nowhere to run.
Posted By: ridge_pilot

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/21/07 09:19 PM

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The Deputy may be a nice guy and didn't mean to hurt anyone, but he is committing 2 crimes if Dinius is found guilty of manslaughter.

I agree, it is important to have respect for the law and the people who enforce it...who have sworn to serve and protect us. Mark W your comment mirrors my thoughts well.
Posted By: ridge_pilot

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/23/07 01:44 PM

http://www.news10.net/includes/buildasx....hicks081807.wmv

Hopefully they can get the case turned over to the State Attorney General.
Posted By: MarkW_F18

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/23/07 08:52 PM

Thanks for keeping me posted. What other regional papers and TV should I check for follow ups. I found this by googling Bismarck Dinius
http://iteamblog.abc7news.com/

I can't believe this is not getting any national press. I guess this is buried with the Micheal Vick case.
Posted By: Will_R

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/23/07 09:45 PM

Looks like the state AG has written an opinion that it should be handled by the county and NOT the state.

Well.. I emailed it to Oreilly... who knows... he's the only one that really picks up on this sort of news.
Posted By: Clayton

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/23/07 10:31 PM

Good idea, if O'Reilly doesn't make noise its pretty lost.

Clayton
Posted By: I20RI

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/23/07 11:22 PM

O'reilly make noise about a cop effing up?! You must be kidding me. He thinks Rodney King was asking for it. E mail it to the ACLU if you want someone to give a sheet.
Posted By: Will_R

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/24/07 04:52 PM

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O'reilly make noise about a cop effing up?! You must be kidding me. He thinks Rodney King was asking for it. E mail it to the ACLU if you want someone to give a sheet.


Yeah, b/c I see CNN going after rogue judges that set sex offenders free.... only someone from the north east would say something as ignorant as that. Get real.
Posted By: Mary

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/24/07 06:10 PM

How about sending it to Geraldo Rivera? He's an experienced sailor.
Posted By: ridge_pilot

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/24/07 08:48 PM

Here is the latest in the investigative news series:
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=i_team&id=5599286
Posted By: txnacra479

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/25/07 08:36 PM

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How about sending it to Geraldo Rivera? He's an experienced sailor.


How about Catamaran Sailor Mag doing an editorial? How about contacting Ted Turner? He's a sailor too! And not afraid to speak out!
Posted By: Mary

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/25/07 11:28 PM

An editorial in a sailing magazine is not going to cut it. Major national TV exposure is needed to shed light on this travesty of justice and keep the wrong person from going to jail for manslaughter.

Ted Turner has a tendency to put his foot in his mouth and might make the situation worse.
Posted By: hobie1616

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/26/07 12:54 AM

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Ted Turner has a tendency to put his foot in his mouth and might make the situation worse.
Ted might step in and buy the whole county. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: warbird

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/27/07 09:20 AM

couplathings....
I watch the Factor.
I aggree, he would never take aim at a cop, he likes being on the Christmas card list too much. For all we know, he might have been on the boat with them! Weirdly, I am from the North too...but in another country.
If one of them was a Hispanic Illegal, Hillary Clinton or an enemy combattant the spin would stop though!
Seriously. This case is not just about this woman and this cop or the man he is trying to frame.
It is about how people seem to percieve speeding in boats at night over there.
This woman is already dead, it is about the next woman and the next.
Posted By: Mary

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/27/07 11:54 AM

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It is about how people seem to percieve speeding in boats at night over there.

Here in Key Largo it is very scary to listen to the roar of the speedboats going full bore at all hours of the night. I would never dare venture out on the water at night in ANY kind of boat, because of all the crazies out there.
Posted By: MarkW_F18

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/27/07 01:28 PM

Latest news..
California State Dept of Justice will step in to investigate

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=i_team&id=5606376
Posted By: MarkW_F18

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/31/07 01:04 PM

The plot thickens

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=i_team&id=5621038

Chief Deputy Russell Perdock is now saying that he wasn't going as fast as what he said in his first statements. However he is still admitting to going 40 MPH... sorry.... my 19' Grady with a 140 HP Suzuki maxs out at 40 and that is still way too fast at night.

Funny how this reminds me of the Duke Laccrosse case. The stripper changed her story several times. The police did a shotty job investigating and the DA had blinders on for a self-determined outcome.

Thanks to the KGO TV 7 for doing a great job following this.
Posted By: ridge_pilot

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/31/07 03:44 PM

Next Perdock will claim that the sailboat backed into him at 40 mph.
Posted By: ubicomp

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 08/31/07 11:19 PM

It is SO transparent what's going on here. The lying bastard of a deputy sees his future (justifiably) ruined, and is doing every thing possible, with the help of unscrupulous lawyers, to squirm out of it. He's now saying he was travelling 10mph less than b4, 30-35, which is STILL an insane speed at night with a new moon. Before he was on record as admitting to operate unsafely, he's now still admitting to operating unsafely, but also on record as a liar.

I really don't see how a case is going to hold up against the sailboat operator at this point, now that the state is getting involved. The deputy should lose everything he owns and spend a minimum of 5-10 years in prison for this. It's a shame because everyone is going to lose out of this no matter who "wins". The only ones who won't lose are the lawyers.
Posted By: warbird

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/02/07 07:40 AM

This is what I call a Jessica Lynch.
Other people call it spin.
In less creative places it is still just called a lie....a big fat lie.
Posted By: MarkW_F18

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/04/07 09:03 PM

more news

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=i_team&id=5624575
Posted By: MarkW_F18

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/04/07 09:06 PM

from the "A Very Small World" Blog
http://iteamblog.abc7news.com/2007/08/a-very-small-wo.html

"At the start of the hearing, Superior Court Judge Robert Crone announced he had something to disclose. He performed the wedding ceremony 15-18 years ago for Russell Perdock."

talking about the Good Ole Boys conspiracy
Posted By: ncik

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/04/07 11:19 PM

Oh far out, it just keeps getting better!!!

And we wonder why boating isn't a more popular past time, with stories like this, who'd want to be part of it. Noone knows if they're safe on the water, even if they think they know the rules and try to abide by them.

We've had a similar incident on our local bay last weekend. On dusk, it appears as though a small fast power boat ran into a larger slow cruiser resulting in 4? dead. The two debates at the moment are about the age of the skipper of the cruiser and licensing procedures. He was 16, licensed and not under the influence of alcohol, and the only person of 17? on the two boats not injured in the incident. The general opinion is that licensing in our region is a joke that any fool can obtain, you don't even need to know how to tie your boat to a pontoon!
Posted By: warbird

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/05/07 12:58 AM

No licencing here but anyone under the age of 16 is not allowed to pilot a boat of any description over 5 knots.
Last thing we need is licencing. We need less people on the water so the worse it looks the better as far as I am concerned, Keep all of the loons out on the roads.
Posted By: Will_R

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/07/07 07:41 PM

bump - to keep it towards the top
Posted By: BowtieWarrior

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/07/07 08:23 PM

Just a question on the rules of the water way.. be in night or day.. I thougt sailboats had the right of way no matter what! given the fact that They dont have a moter and are dependant on wind!!!
Posted By: Will_R

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/07/07 08:49 PM

That is true, however I think they are attesting that he could not keep clear b/c he didn't see them b/c they didn't have their lights on.

The nearest I can come up with an analogy is this:
You're driving down the road at night with your lights off and another car runs a stop sign and you collide. Who is at fault? He could not see you, but he also ran a stop sign.

I've spent a LOT of time boating at night on boat sailboats and large and small power boats... I'll admit... in several cases we've been going a weeeee too fast (70+) and you can't see a lot. Day markers and running lights, but that's about it. You have to be very careful with any lights b/c white lights can easily blend in with lights on shore. So even if their lights were on... it might be difficult to see.
Posted By: BowtieWarrior

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/07/07 08:56 PM

agreed Its all weird to me the lakes I have been on at night are DNR controlled at 15 MPH limit and mandatory lights and trust me they are on the lake well past 2 AM looking to get anyone they can!

going 50 at night on the lake I am close to you could not do it for more that 15 seconds and then you still might get a ticked for speeding!
Posted By: Banzilla

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/07/07 09:16 PM

Something else that bugs me here is (from I can tell and I may be wrong) it seems that the collision happened somewhat near a marina . Aren't you supposed to go much slower in these areas even if you don't see other boats with or without lights on?
Posted By: Will_R

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/07/07 09:25 PM

If you're outside a break wall or area with speed control markers... no.

The lake I grew up on (KY and Barkley lakes) has a lot of barge traffic. There have been several bass boats running way too fast and run into the side of a a barge in the dark.... they're nothing but a greasy spot on the side...
Posted By: warbird

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/08/07 12:01 AM

This is a chance for authorities to realise that speed at night is stupid.
keep it real simple.
Having the freedom to go joyriding in the dark is s t u p i d.
This is worse than having the right to drift a car around any large car park at night with no lights with you car jumping over lumps and no xtra ambiant lighting while others sit in legally parked cars.....or illegally parked cars for that matter.
Some freedoms are not sensible, like thinking that kids should have the freedom to carry guns in schools to proterct themsleves from madmen!
I can just see the local school drug dealing student telling the principal he shot in self defence with a gun he had the perfect legal right to carry.
OR, "I know that kid has a gun, so I'll just smash him from behind and suddenly I am armed".
OR, "I was just playing with it and it went off and blew her head off!"

There is no defence for the speeding boat and any amount of justification won't change that reality.
Posted By: sail7seas

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/09/07 03:11 PM

1. I would like to add having been almost hit three times during the DAY, it only takes a couple of seconds with their eyes off the road and it is all over. I always noticed the motor boats skipper was looking away, until the last second.

2. I think I read the cabin lights were on, from my experience the interior lights highlight a boat from the rear much more than a stern light.
Posted By: IndyWave

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/09/07 04:39 PM

When assigning blame, they need to ask two questions:

1. If the sailboat's running lights were on, would the woman still be alive?

Answer: Maybe, maybe not. The power boat may have been able to see the sailboat without them, or the powerboat may not have noticed them even if they were on.

2. If the cop had been driving at a SAFE speed, would the woman still be alive?

Answer: Definitely YES. By definition, a safe speed is the speed at which you can avoid a serious accident. Even if the collision had occurred anyway, the damage would have been minimal, and the woman would have survived.

Therefore, the guilt should be left to the juries to decide; but as for charges filed, the crooked cop should have been the first one charged!

A similar case occurred in downtown Indianapolis a few years ago when a joy-riding cop (no lights or siren, maybe even no headlights) blew through a stoplight and killed a kid driving on the cross street. At first the police department claimed he was on a "silent run", till it came out there was no such run dispatched. The cop walked away with no charges filed, because it could not be proven that the kid did not die as a result of negligence on the part of the ambulance technician who treated him! (Completely disregarding the fact that he wouldn't have needed treatment if the cop hadn't creamed him!)
Posted By: Will_R

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/18/07 08:40 PM

sorry, but... bump... too important to let fall off the charts.
Posted By: MarkW_F18

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/18/07 08:54 PM

I agree.. has anyone heard anything new about this story? I've been checking the local TV station that has been giving really good updates.
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/index?section=i_team&id=3266408
The last I heard they were waiting to hear back from the State Dept of Justice. They are investigating to see if the Police followed proper procedures. I think that was going to take several weeks.
Posted By: warbird

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/18/07 09:40 PM

weeks drift into months and a year later they say everything was fine with police procedure but the charges have been dropped because the man has faced enough pain for his mistake. bla bla bla.
Did anyone see that crazy cop going off at the motorist who had a dash cam??!! Greeat! We all need one.
Someone tell me that that cop was not taking his dash cam back to base and having a big laugh with his cop buddies when on doughnut duty.....Oh no, that's right, it was a one off event.......EXCEPT THE COPS DASH CAM FOOTAGE HAS SOMEHOW GONE WEST!!!!
Imagine such damning police evidence going missing when it is about one of thier own.
Just a few bad eggs make the whole place smell bad.
What is it they say about pigs/ Oh that's right, they can fly.
Posted By: hobie1616

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/18/07 10:26 PM

The dash cam was actually a head restraint cam owned by the kid who got stopped.
Posted By: warbird

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/19/07 04:08 AM

tech can work both ways. A police officer here just got done for trying to destroy an airport carpack servailance video which showed him beating on someone....he lost his job,,,,funny thing was the court decided he hadn't been too tough on the woman. He lost his job for trying to destroy evidence.
Posted By: Darryl_Barrett

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/19/07 06:27 AM

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"tech can work both ways. A police officer here just got done for trying to destroy an airport carpack servailance video which showed him beating on someone....he lost his job,,,,funny thing was the court decided he hadn't been too tough on the woman. He lost his job for trying to destroy evidence"

Has to be a KIWI thing !!!!
Posted By: Seeker

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/19/07 05:15 PM

Seems like law enforcement has a problem with high speed power boating.

http://www.boattest.com/Resources/view_news.aspx?NewsID=480

Regards,
Bob
Posted By: Will_R

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 09/19/07 05:43 PM

Sounds like law enforcement in CA to me... at least that guy got prosecuted.
Posted By: Chris9

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 10/01/07 03:06 PM

any new news?
Posted By: MarkW_F18

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 10/23/07 06:15 PM

Any news from California? Last word from August was that the State Dept of Justice was to investigate...Have they come to any conclusions?

I saw an article in the Raleigh News & Observer today about a simular story that occured a few years ago in NC. This time it was the NC Lt. Governor's sons in the boat that crashed into another boat. They were drinking and they claimed that the boat they hit did not have their navagation lights on.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/746185.html


At least in the land of Deputy Barney Fife, we charged the right person.
Posted By: MarkW_F18

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 10/23/07 06:25 PM

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I saw an article in the Raleigh News & Observer today about a simular story that occured a few years ago in NC. This time it was the NC Lt. Governor's sons in the boat that crashed into another boat. They were drinking and they claimed that the boat they hit did not have their navagation lights on.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/746185.html


At least in the land of Deputy Barney Fife, we charged the right person.


I left out the best part of the article. The couple in the boat that was hit..... they were in the nude making out. The defense attorney is claiming that was the reason they did not have their lights on. This trial should be interesting.
Posted By: IndyWave

Re: Appalling: Motor boat vs. Sailboat - 04/25/08 08:07 PM

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Any update on this? Did they release the innocent sailor?Was the drunken killer cop ever convicted? Was the rotten incestuous D.A. finally kicked off the case? What about the sheriffs who refused to take the statements of the eye-witnesses?
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