Catsailor.com

Outback Cup this weekend

Posted By: dave mosley

Outback Cup this weekend - 09/19/07 07:28 PM

Weather is stuck on gorgeous, food by Carraba's friday night, Outback Steaks(big one's) Saturday night, and beer.
Friday night our local town is closing down the streets and Atlanta Rythm Section and Mother's Finest are playing for $10, and dont forget the racing. 3 race courses, 70 boats are preregistered(20 multihulls so far), including F18, H16, TheMightyHobie18 and multiple huge open fleets are registered.
More info at
www.columbiasailingclub.org
Posted By: drbinkle

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/20/07 03:06 AM

Is there anywhere on the website to see who is pre-registered?
Posted By: Dlennard

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/20/07 03:38 AM

Hey Derek all the great sailors will be there to eat the big Outback steaks. I even got Renee to sail with me.
Posted By: drbinkle

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/20/07 04:03 AM

Since you're going to be there I guess I don't have a choice. I hear Lunch Trey and the gang are going to be performing again so I hope Renee is ready.
Posted By: dave mosley

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/20/07 04:25 AM

Derek, this was sent to me earlier this week, more were added including at least 2 other 16's, and alot of notably missing regulars never preregister. So looks like good fleets and good racing. Joanna, did a guy from Tenn with a 4.9 pm you? He is coming and wants to talk to you and Olli.
1
Rick Harper
00
A Cat


multihull

2
Lynn Olson
4095
F-16
Too Sharp to Touch
65.2
multihull

3
Team Willam Graves
1699
F-18

71.4
multihull

4
David Lennard
676
F-18
Layline
71.4
multihull

5
Dave Mosely
351
F-18
Ms Kitka
71.4
multihull

6
Dave Devon
80244
H-16

76
multihull

7
Sam Gustafson
82415
H-16

76
multihull

8
Richard Boyle
5800
Hobie
Cat House

multihull

9
Mitchell Barnes
104903
Hobie 16
Wahine
76
multihull

10
Derick Binckley
75009
Hobie 16

76
multihull

11
David Joyce
84155
Hobie 16

76
multihull

12
Dean Hyatt
353
Hobie 20

62.4
multihull

13
Jason Acosta
906
Hobie 20
Bottom's Up
62.4
multihull

14
Bjorn Kronqwist
924
Hobie Gateway


multihull

15
Bill Hendrix
44
Trac 16

76.3
multihull

16
Furman Owens

Trac 16

76.3
multihull
Posted By: dave mosley

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/20/07 04:27 AM

sorry for the above format
Posted By: Joanna

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/20/07 12:04 PM

Sounds like a great list..Jody (Blade F16)is coming for sure. David-I did get a note from Paul and Oley said they have talked. I was hoping he was coming.
Can't wait to get On the water!!! See you all there <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: drbinkle

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/20/07 04:15 PM

Thanks Dave. See you tomorrow.
Posted By: Jake

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/20/07 08:37 PM

Wick Smith is bringing the 20 and (dddrrrruuuuummm rrrrooolllll) I'm on the front!

Jake
Posted By: NCSUtrey

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/20/07 09:12 PM

Trey Brown is bringin' the 20, and I'm on the front! Take that...
Posted By: Dlennard

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/20/07 09:44 PM

The front of the line for the the steaks ?
Posted By: drbinkle

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/20/07 09:58 PM

front of the line for seconds on steaks
Posted By: zander

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/21/07 01:37 AM

You guys better be glad Strickland's can't make it. A least there will be enough steaks. Ha!

I know he could say the same of me, but I said it first.
Posted By: John Williams

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/23/07 06:01 PM

Any news on this weekend? From over here, the winds look light and very shifty on Lake Murray today. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Jake

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/24/07 01:55 AM

Yup - light and shifty. Did get some decent racing in on Saturday and the food was spectacular! Lynn Olsen on Blade wins Open A.
Posted By: dave mosley

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/24/07 10:17 PM

Sunday we had some decent wind, hulls flying a few times, Trey single handing the N20 had a couple of tense but fast moments with the chute up, I saw that Trey!
heres the unofficial top 4 in the Open A Spin Fleet

Olli and Joanne Blade F16
Jody single hand Blade F16
Nigel and Tammy F18
Lunch Trey N20 Single hand

I think but not sure( Jake and I were out racing little boats when the awards were going on)
Lennard/Lennard F18
Harper A Cat
Smith/Kohl N20
Mosley/Palmer F18
Setelli/Setelli F18

Boy the Blades look good, and fast. Not a good rating for the rest of us though, they were beating most of us boat for boat in the light stuff
Posted By: John Williams

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/24/07 10:26 PM

Make sure, as always, that your data is submitted to the Portsmouth Committee. I remind folks of this any time I see discussion of a rating issue. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: dave mosley

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/25/07 10:41 AM

Outback Regatta 2007 - MultiHull Course
Skipper Sail Type Race 1 2 3 4 5 Total
Name No. Boat Div Rating Pts Pts Pts Pts Pts Pts* Finish
Garland 101 Hobie 16 Hobie 16 76.0 4 4 1 1 1 7 1
Derick Binckley 75009 Hobie 16 Hobie 16 76.0 1 1 3 4 2 7 2
David Joyce 84155 Hobie 16 Hobie 16 76.0 2 5 2 2 3 9 3
Dave Devon 80244 Hobie 16 Hobie 16 76.0 7 2 5 3 4 14 4
Mitchell Barnes 104903 Hobie 16 Hobie 16 76.0 5 6 4 5 5 19 5
Sam Gustafson 82415 Hobie 16 Hobie 16 76.0 3 3 6 8 8 20 6
JD 102990 Hobie 16 Hobie 16 76.0 6 7 8 8 8 29 7

Lynn Olson 1 F16 Open A 65.2 5 1 1 1 1 4 1
Nigel 602 F-18 Open A 62.4 1 3 2 3 3 9 2
Jody 724 F16 Open A 65.2 2 2 3 2 2 8 3
Trey Brown 1017 Nacra 20 Open A 57.5 3 4 10 5 5 17 4
David Lennard 7 F-18 Open A 62.4 6 6 6 4 4 20 5
Wick 1001 Nacra 20 Open A 59.3 4 5 5 7 7 21 6
Rick Harper 00 A Cat Open A 64.6 7 8 4 8 12 27 7
Dave Mosley 351 F-18 Open A 62.4 9 7 7 6 8 28 8
Rob 1376 Hobie Tiger 18 Open A 62.4 8 10 8 10 6 32 9
Chris 629 Nacra 20 Open A 59.3 10 9 9 9 9 36 10
Team Willam Graves 1699 F-18 Open A 62.4 12 12 12 12 12 48 11

James G-Cat G Cat 5.7 Open B 72.7 1 1 5 3 2 7 1
Alan 007 Hobie 18 Open B 71.4 2 2 2 2 3 8 2
Bill Hendrix 44 Trac 16 Open B 76.3 6 4 4 1 1 10 3
Jason Acosta 906 Hobie 20 Open B 65.0 3 3 1 5 4 11 4
Furman Owens 168 Trac 16 Open B 76.3 11 8 3 7 6 24 5
Jeremy 3002 Nacra 5.2 Open B 72.1 9 6 11 4 11 30 6
Micheal 1281 Hobie 18 with spi Open B 67.2 4 5 11 11 11 31 7
Dean Hyatt 353 Hobie 20 Open B 65.0 7 11 11 9 5 32 8
Bjorn Kronqwist 924 Hobie Getaway Open B 82.9 8 7 11 6 11 32 9
Richard Boyle 5800 Hobie 18 Open B 71.4 5 9 11 8 11 33 10
Posted By: AlanOSauras

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/25/07 11:45 AM

Freak'n G-Cat. So close. That was some close racing in Open B.
Posted By: Wouter

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/25/07 12:05 PM

How many discards were used ?

Because when I added the placings for the first 5 boats I find :

F16 Olsen 14
F18 Nigel 23
F16 Jody 22
Nacra 20 (solo) Trey 48
F18 Lennard 51

After discarding one race we have a tie at 14 points between Nigel and Jody. And the tie remains even when discarding 2 more races. Which begs the question what type of tie breaker was used.

...

(update)

Googling the ISAF regulations :

If there is a series score tie between two or more boats, each boat’s
race scores shall be listed in order of best to worst, and at the first
point(s) where there is a difference the tie shall be broken in favour of
the boat(s) with the best score(s). No excluded scores shall be used.

That means :

Nigel 1 2 2 3 3 3 (9) = tot. 23
Jody 2 2 2 2 3 3 (8) = tot. 22

Which would lay the tie in favour of Nigel even though Jody did sail a better series as evidenced by having a lower total score before taking the disgard.

There was some tight racing going on !

Wouter.
Posted By: Mark Schneider

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/25/07 12:13 PM

Usually, the ISAF tie break... after a throw and then tied... the boat with the most firsts, seconds, etc breaks the tie.
Posted By: Joanna

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/25/07 12:33 PM

David-you have times elapsed(real) times on the open A fleet?
Posted By: Wouter

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/25/07 12:37 PM

No it is different.

I overlooked the fact that the total score (excluding the throw) is given already.

Name No. Boat Div Rating Pts Pts Pts Pts Pts Pts* Finish

Lynn Olson 1 F16 Open A 65.2 | 5 1 1 1 1 | tot 4 = 1 place
Nigel 602 F-18 Open A 62.4 | 1 3 2 3 3 | tot 9 = 2 place
Jody 724 F16 Open A 65.2 | 2 2 3 2 2 | tot 8 = 3 place

basically this means that there is no tie breaker as Nigel has 9 points overall while Jody has 8. Jody whould be second and Nigel should be third.

i.e.

Lynn Olson 1 F16 Open A 65.2 | 5 1 1 1 1 | tot 4 = 1 place
Jody 724 F16 Open A 65.2 | 2 2 3 2 2 | tot 8 = 2 place
Nigel 602 F-18 Open A 62.4 | 1 3 2 3 3 | tot 9 = 3 place


Meaning F16's took 1st and 2nd on handicap. It is also great to see Jody elect to race of the faster 2-up F16 handicap while singlehanding. No bitching about the peachy 1-up F16 handicap here. That is the spirit Jody, respect !

Please correct me if I made a mistake.

Wouter
Posted By: dave mosley

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/25/07 01:36 PM

Thats all the info I have, I believe there is a paper copy with times on it(I dont have it or have access to it), then it was transcribed to the Excel spreadsheet. I was not involved in scoring, so I dont know what why how they came up with these numbers.
Posted By: jody

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/25/07 02:12 PM

Thanks Wouter. Olie, Joanna and I were really intrested to see how the boats compare 1 up vs 2 up. The speed was very comparable. Joanna and Olie are about 255 together and I am around 165. I did not notice any time where one boat looked that much faster then the other, just times when one nut on the tiller did something smarter then the other nut.
Posted By: Rickh

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/25/07 04:31 PM

Nigel realized the mistake and gave Jody the 2nd place trophy I believe
Posted By: jody

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/25/07 04:36 PM

yes he did. I did not even realize the error until he told me.
Posted By: FasterDamnit

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/27/07 02:15 PM

Quote
Freak'n G-Cat. So close. That was some close racing in Open B.


Yep.

It was awesome racing with all you guys. My skipper may be old, but he knows what he's doing. Our first regatta together in almost 20 years. Had a great conversation w/ Rick Harper Saturday night. I was actually on the phone w/ Hootie Bushardt asking for the spreadsheet when he realized he goofed the results and bumped jody.

Thanks for a great weekend!
Posted By: jody

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/27/07 02:21 PM

I figure the bump was on account of me wearing the LSU shirt. Who knew South Carolina people would not be happy to see purple. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: FasterDamnit

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/27/07 02:23 PM

Think you hit the nail on the head!
Posted By: AlanOSauras

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 09/30/07 05:57 AM

Yes, great racing! I hope you guys are there next year. I want a rematch... and some more wind.
Posted By: FasterDamnit

Re: Outback Cup this weekend - 10/01/07 01:24 AM

Totally agree on the wind. Why race a cat if all you are going to do is drift?
© 2024 Catsailor.com Forums