Posted By: TEAMVMG ISAF Petition - 09/25/07 06:45 PM
With reference to the RYAs [the UK sailing governing body] decision to submit to ISAF that catamarans are dropped at youth and Olympic level, and the huge uproar that now exists in UK cat sailing, a petition has been set up to demonstrate the depth of feeling on this one.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/CatamaranSubmission/index.htmlI know that you guys in the US had similar problems and got over it in a similar way.
Can i ask you all [sailors and non-sailors] to sign the petition so that we can nip this one in the bud.
many thanks
Paul
Posted By: Rolf_Nilsen
Re: ISAF Petition - 09/25/07 07:33 PM
Paul,
is this just for you guys in GB, or do you want international participation? It's not clear to me, but I suppose it's just for sailors based in the UK.
Posted By: scooby_simon Re: ISAF Petition - 09/25/07 07:36 PM
Paul,
is this just for you guys in GB, or do you want international participation? It's not clear to me, but I suppose it's just for sailors based in the UK.
IMO it is for everyone. The decisions by EACH management group world wide make a difference to OUR sport.
The weight of opinion worldwide is important.
Posted By: windswept Re: ISAF Petition - 09/26/07 02:54 PM
OPEN MULTIHULL (Double handed)
Tornado – sailed by men
While I agree with most of what you state and concur with you that the Tornado class is male dominated, there are some women in and actively campaigning Tornados. Pease Glaser is no longer active in the class, but did compete with Jay for a couple of campaigns. Right now Carolijn Brouwer/BEL is ranked 22nd in the world on Tornados. She and her crew had a great regatta at the ISAF Worlds this year in Cascais with what I believe was a secnd place finish at the end of the regatta. I would like to see either a single-handed open class or a women's class in the Olympics, but right now I am more interested in making sure that multihulls are not completely eliminated from the Olympics.
This effects all Cat sailors: Please help, please sign the petition:
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/CatamaranSubmission/index.htmlThe petition has 550names on it in 2 days.
The RYA has decided not to support a catamaran class at the 2012 games.
The UK equivalent of US sailing is trying to do exactly what US sailing tried a few months ago.
The attached DailySail Article sums it up quite well:
http://thedailysail.com/ISM/articles.nsf...ment&Page=1Thanks and Regards
John Ready
Tornado GBR432
OPEN MULTIHULL (Double handed)
Tornado – sailed by men
While I agree with most of what you state and concur with you that the Tornado class is male dominated, there are some women in and actively campaigning Tornados. Pease Glaser is no longer active in the class, but did compete with Jay for a couple of campaigns. Right now Carolijn Brouwer/BEL is ranked 22nd in the world on Tornados. She and her crew had a great regatta at the ISAF Worlds this year in Cascais with what I believe was a secnd place finish at the end of the regatta. I would like to see either a single-handed open class or a women's class in the Olympics, but right now I am more interested in making sure that multihulls are not completely eliminated from the Olympics.
I am fully aware of Carolijn's activities in the Tormado Class as well as other women, that is why I mentioned 99.9 % all male futher up. As for Women at an Olympic Games in the T, It has been a long time since we have seen it. Paul Elvstrom and daughter Trine in 1984 was the only time and it was the great Paul himself at the helm and on the wire. I wish Carolijn the best of luck, however at the moment it is still and for a long time it has been Male dominant at the Games in the 'Open' classes.
Posted By: Rolf_Nilsen Re: ISAF Petition - 09/27/07 10:44 AM
Sorry TA, but the danes had a mixed team in the games in Sidney2000. Helene and Stig Raagaard Hansen. Stig was at the helm while Helene ran the sheets. They finished at 14. place.
Agree that the class is mostly male, so it would be no biggie if the open status was dropped. With the spi it is no problem having a female helm (like Carolijn), but the handling on land can be heavy if the female is small.
Sorry for the digression everyone. Lets get back to the RYA and their proposal. Any news on why they do this? What is the motivation?
Cheers Rolf. Stand corrected
Posted By: stuartoffer Re: ISAF Petition - 09/27/07 01:21 PM
Think you hit the BIG question there. Why are they doing this?
The straight answer is we in the UK do NOT know, the RYA have NOT appear to have consulted openly with anyone on this issue and there are nasty rumours that even when planning this they where having discussions with cat manufacturers over cat sailing. We all have our theories, but, IMO that this is basically the RYA taking a short sighted view that it cannot guarantee medals in cats, because the standard is very high, therefore not worth the investment of a youth policy or supporting a campaign.
What we have to understand is that there is a slighly different stance on 2 issues by the RYA. The are NOT supporting a cat in the 2012 games, (8 supported places with 2 places fro ISAF to decide out of the reamaining 4 classes), They are proposing to DROP the cat from the ISAF youth worlds. Result=no UK cat sailors for 2012!!!!!