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Posted By: HobieZealot That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/13/08 06:07 PM
Oh, one last thing,
Mr Zealot you sir are a WEANIE … fill out your profile, sir.
9. Blogs or social networking profile
What you say in a social networking community or in your personal blog may be even more damaging than what you say in person, Solovic warns. “Comments online can be seen by multiple eyes. An outburst of anger when you are having a bad day … can blow up in your face.”
Do you want HR to know you're the kind of person who argues on the internet?
I don't.
Posted By: Wouter Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/13/08 09:48 PM
Amazing isn't it, to what length anonymous posters go to justify their own cowardness.
This time one of them is hiding behind a disabled person !
That must be a new low.
Wouter
Posted By: fin. Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/13/08 10:54 PM
That's disgusting.
Posted By: hobiephil Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/13/08 11:12 PM
The child in your photo suffers from Down's Syndrome. It is a genetic disorder.
What is your excuse?
Posted By: Robi Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 12:31 AM
WOW! Retarded is not a very nice word to use for mentally disabled people.
HobieZealot, not very cool.
Posted By: mbounds Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 01:19 AM
I don't know who you are behind your "personna" but I probably know you in person.
That's not cool. Unfortunately, you've included a brand name to your handle which will forever associate itself with your thoughtless, tactless, downright stupid post.
Thanks a--hole. Go away. We don't need you.
Posted By: Don_Atchley Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 02:14 AM
Apparently The Zealot didn't read the entire list;
13. Off-color or racially charged comments
You can assume your co-worker wouldn’t be offended or would think something is funny, but you might be wrong,
Sir, you've only shown your ignorance...
Posted By: hobie1616 Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 02:20 AM
Dude, I've got a kid that was born with a lot of problems, the worse being spina bifida. He will live with both physical and mental challenges his whole life. He's had many surgeries to help improve his quality of life.
He's a good kid, hold down a job where he gets good reviews and has many friends who look out for his well being.
The saddest thing he ever said was to ask my wife, "Mom, will there ever be an operation that will let me walk like other kids?"
Your poster is in extremely bad taste. You sir, are a piece of hot, steaming fecal matter. Please don't ever post another message here again.
Posted By: Karl_Brogger Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 02:43 AM
WOW! Retarded is not a very nice word to use for mentally disabled people.
At the risk of being burned at the stake....
Why is retarded not politically correct? I guess I wouldn't wholly consider it accurate, when I think of a good context for the word retarded I think of: backed off, turned down, something of that nature. More along the mechanical lines. Its in no way demeaning, it could be used in a demeaning manner, but that has nothing to do with the word it self or what it describes. Does saying Mentally Challenged or Mentally handicapped somehow soften the blow of the truth? Will these terms at some point become as publically unacceptable as retarded if overused? Giving a condition a different name doesn't make it any less tradgic.
Would it have been different had the poster used more P.C. language? The point is that we facelessly argue one another and on certain points nothing can be gained or won, there by making us act or appear much less intelligent than we are.
Posted By: hobie1616 Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 03:05 AM
WOW! Retarded is not a very nice word to use for mentally disabled people.
At the risk of being burned at the stake....
Why is retarded not politically correct? I guess I wouldn't wholly consider it accurate, when I think of a good context for the word retarded I think of: backed off, turned down, something of that nature. More along the mechanical lines. Its in no way demeaning, it could be used in a demeaning manner, but that has nothing to do with the word it self or what it describes. Does saying Mentally Challenged or Mentally handicapped somehow soften the blow of the truth? Will these terms at some point become as publically unacceptable as retarded if overused? Giving a condition a different name doesn't make it any less tradgic.
Would it have been different had the poster used more P.C. language? The point is that we facelessly argue one another and on certain points nothing can be gained or won, there by making us act or appear much less intelligent than we are.
Intolerance is just the latest form of discrimination.
Well Karl, my son is mentally retarded/mentally challenged/etc. We know it and we use the term to describe him when asked what his issues are. We do not, however, use the term to disparage him or anyone else who have challenges in life beyond their control.
The graphic above is mean spirited and lacks any taste. I am intolerant of scumbags who think posting something like that is humorous. Would it be okay if the Downs kid was replaced with an African American and some witty remark about his/her race or appearance? The Downs kid would laugh if shown the poster. The African American would kick your butt. Pick on someone who understands and can fight back.
Posted By: Robi Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 03:10 AM
WOW! Retarded is not a very nice word to use for mentally disabled people.
At the risk of being burned at the stake....
Why is retarded not politically correct? I guess I wouldn't wholly consider it accurate, when I think of a good context for the word retarded I think of: backed off, turned down, something of that nature. More along the mechanical lines. Its in no way demeaning, it could be used in a demeaning manner, but that has nothing to do with the word it self or what it describes. Does saying Mentally Challenged or Mentally handicapped somehow soften the blow of the truth? Will these terms at some point become as publically unacceptable as retarded if overused? Giving a condition a different name doesn't make it any less tradgic.
Would it have been different had the poster used more P.C. language? The point is that we facelessly argue one another and on certain points nothing can be gained or won, there by making us act or appear much less intelligent than we are.
Karl, its not what you say but how you say it. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: HMurphey Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 04:45 AM
Mr Zealot,
I 've had the HONOR of working with the Special Olympics. My first event when I joined Fleet #54 was their Special Olympics with Danial Flanigan. This event was the starting point for sailing in the Special Olympics and today is a worldwide program. I was blessed to work with some increadable athletes and their families. I was fortunate enough to be asked to be a sailing coach on the Maryland Delegation for the Special Olympics World Games held in NewHaven Conn 1995.
I can only pity you, for you will never know the great joy and acts of kindnesses that I recieved ....
HarryMurphey
H-18/9458 Fleet 54/div11
Posted By: H17cat Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 07:03 AM
Suggest we all vote to reduce Mr. Zealot to one star. Too bad there is not a zero star rating. Most of know people or have friends that live with or care for people with special needs. They are to be honored and deserve a special place in this World.
Caleb
Posted By: mattaipan Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 10:48 AM
I've got to say when I first opened to read this thread, I thought this would be one of those more amusing conversations I often read on the forum, I get a lot of laughs off this forum, some teeth grinding, but more laughs.
But that is the weakess, lowest, most distasteful thing I have seen to date, you sir, are as weak as piss, I hope you are identified, and you lose some friends, thats what you deserve, think about it.
Can we get that removed, if the poster won't get rid of it? Rick or Mary?
Posted By: _flatlander_ Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 01:45 PM
Can we get that removed, if the poster won't get rid of it? Rick or Mary?
Strongly second that motion. What message does this send to the potential catsailor? It's a very poor, distasteful and embarrassing representation of this forum.
Posted By: Clayton Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 02:11 PM
I agree with Robi. The context of the message is whats offensive not the single word. Interacting with children, disabled/handicapped or not is usually a eye opening experience. You are reminded of how simple life could/should be as they are not cluttered with the many hassles of adulthood.
You should step back a bit think a little, get involved with something SPECIAL and see what these kids are like. Retarded maybe but full of LOVE you can't get anywhere else.
Note: Remember to Start the Brain before engaging the MOUTH.
Clayton (my real name!)
Posted By: Barry Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 02:34 PM
You can set any user to "Ignore". Click on the user name and you will see the "Ignore user" at the bottom of the page.
Posted By: Don_Atchley Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 02:47 PM
Suggest we all vote to reduce Mr. Zealot to one star.
Caleb
Excellent Idea! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Looks like I was the 11th person to do that.
Posted By: TeamChums Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 03:26 PM
I had the pleasure of taking kids sailing at Camp Bluejay in Tehachapi California a few years ago with the local Hobie dealer and I have to say it was one of the most rewarding sailing days of my life. To be there with those kids and be around their enthusiasm while sailing was moving to say the least. We could all learn alot from these kids.
Mr. Zelot has over-extended his "Karma Insurance Policy". When he is at his lowest point in life (if he isn't already), this will be right there staring him in the face. If I ever get to meet him in person, I hope I am strong enough to just take pitty on him rather than break his nose.
Lee Wicklund/Team Chums
Posted By: Mary Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 03:49 PM
Okay, I have managed to delete the offensive graphic in both the beginning post and its attachment.
I did not delete the user from the forum, because he has been contributing to the forum for quite a while and this is the first offensive thing I have seen. He made a mistake, as many of us do from time to time on the internet as well as in e-mails, and I think he has been properly punished by the forum users.
I DO think he should apologize.
I have seen that same picture elsewhere on the internet, used in the same negative context, and I think he just saw that and thought it conveyed what he was trying to say. BIG error in judgment.
Posted By: pbisesi Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 06:23 PM
Nice measured response Mary.
We have all done and said stupid things we regret.
I also think that Mr.Weanie should apologize and sign it.
How one handles these kind of mistakes is more important(to me anyway) than the mistake itself.
On a positive note.
My first experience with a disabled sailor was at the 17 Nationals in Syracuse.Matt probably has the article from the Hotline. He was very excited that we were going to have the event on a lake(No surf). He (Evan?) was then able to have his support team lift him on the boat a push him off. He was a great guy and a pretty darn good sailor.
He was able to compete in a Nationals before his disability made it impossible. Pretty Cool.
Posted By: H17cat Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 07:23 PM
Posted By: pbisesi Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 08:05 PM
I know that sail and it is highly unlikely(like no chance) that's who it is.
Posted By: mbounds Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 08:09 PM
That's not him (I hope).
That's Rich McVeigh in the photo.
HZ just stole the photo (without giving credit) and did a very basic job with PhotoShop.
Posted By: TeamChums Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 08:13 PM
Just by going through all his posts, I would bet money that he is a 16A Fleeter. He must be pretty well known. He obviously likes to promote youth sailing (his posts)but not youth handicapped sailing. Defend him all you wish but still a spineless worm to me. Still would love to meet him in person.
Lee
Posted By: pitchpoledave Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 08:20 PM
Google gave me this information based on a search of the sail number:
Arie van Duijn
Fort Myers FL
This of course does not definitively prove that HobieZealot or anyone else owns sail #107568
Posted By: fin. Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 08:29 PM
Arie's a nice guy, I spent yesterday sailing with him. If he is actually "Mr. Weanie" I suspect the statement is a result of English not being his first language. As Wouter said this morning, no matter how fluent you become in a foreign language, you will never be a "native" speaker.
But, I gotta know! How did you do that!!???
Posted By: pbisesi Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 08:38 PM
Is this Cat Sailor or Cat Salem?
Posted By: H17cat Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 08:40 PM
Sorry Rich. That was from Zelot's first post. He inferred that was his picture.
Caleb
Posted By: mbounds Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 08:46 PM
Is this Cat Sailor or Cat Salem?
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BURN THEM! Posted By: pbisesi Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 08:57 PM
Did he turn you into a Newt?
Did you get better? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Robi Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 09:10 PM
funny how he has been brought to light and does not bother to reply
Posted By: arievd Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 09:11 PM
It was definitely not me, as you can tell from my username I don't like to hide behind some alias. Where my name came into the mix is that I now own Rich's old boat, which is the H16 in the picture (#107568). I would suggest though that before we start throwing around names we clarify the context in which that name is used and are certain of our allegations. I teach physical therapy for a living so I get to spent a lot of time with people with disabilities, and I do not appreciate my name being associated with this type of posting <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Pitchpoledave: I would appreciate it if you would delete this posting or edit my name out of it.
Posted By: dave mosley Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 09:58 PM
why dont we ALL stop posting to this and quit while we are ahead. This can only go nowhere, and Mary's right, HZ has probably learned a lesson.
Posted By: Mark Schneider Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 10:02 PM
Just corresponded with Rich at work... He has no clue what is going on. He read the thread after the editing and is quite confused. At any rate. He is not Hobie Zellot.
Posted By: Don_Atchley Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 10:02 PM
Posted By: Mary Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 10:38 PM
And that last post looks like an appropriate way to END THIS THREAD.
Posted By: dsltrc Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/14/08 11:19 PM
thank you!! and goodnight!!
Posted By: arievd Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/15/08 12:07 AM
With all due respect Mary, as the unwitting subject of the party depicted in that last photo, I would request that this does not get put to bed until the reference to my name gets removed from this thread. I send the person who posted my name unrefutable evidence that he was wrong, and requested that he post something to that effect.
Posted By: arbo06 Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/15/08 12:31 AM
An apology from the poster is needed. It was probably a very poor attempt at humor. Penance should be paid and the the transgression should be forgotten.
Posted By: fin. Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/15/08 12:59 AM
Just for the record; this is the date stamp of the origianl post. 01/13/08 01:07 PM . Arie and I were rigging my boat at that time. Sorry I didn't notice it sooner.
Posted By: gree2056 Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/15/08 01:04 AM
Sure the picture offends me, but guys it was a bad choice on his part lets just drop it before we drive a catsailor away for ever.
Posted By: fin. Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/15/08 01:17 AM
What if "MR." weanie is a she?
Posted By: arievd Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you *DELETED* - 01/15/08 01:31 AM
Post deleted by arievd
Posted By: mbounds Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/15/08 02:18 AM
Well, I hope you offer an apology to Heather for dragging her name into this morass.
The post in question was cut/pasted. Heather signed the press release, not the post. I know Heather and she would never do somehting like what HZ did.
Posted By: arievd Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/15/08 02:24 AM
Matt, if that is indeed the case I do apologize to Heather!
Guess I was too eager to get my own name cleared. This is really the last thing I will say about it, and just to make sure will delete that link.
Posted By: rhodysail Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/15/08 02:25 AM
Wow I'm off catsailor for about 24 hours and all hell breaks loose.
I am HobieZealot.
I am sincerely sorry for my post and thank you Mary for deleting it.
I thought it was funny at the time but I was wrong.
Again I am also sorry for not getting here sooner.
Apologies all around. Looks like I got here too late.
Bob Merrick
Posted By: HobieZealot Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/15/08 02:27 AM
there is all the proof you need
Posted By: arbo06 Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/15/08 02:36 AM
Is HZ your alter ego?
Posted By: Robi Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/15/08 02:48 AM
Posted By: HMurphey Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/15/08 06:36 AM
" ... And he with out sin shall cast the first stone ..."
Bob,
Please bury "Mr Zealot", never to be seen or heard of again. You are too good of a person to resort to that level,sir. And "Mr Zealot" does not serve you well.
Sincerely
HarryMurphey
H-18/#9458 Fleet 54/ Div 11
P-19mx/#86 CRAC
HCA-NA member
Posted By: David Parker Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/15/08 02:22 PM
Maybe we should just start a "Politically Incorrect Photos" thread and we can get everything offensive posted in one place with the knowledge that it's not posted seriously. I think people like offensive "humor" without wanting to offend anyone themselves. " ... And he with out sin shall cast the first stone ..."
OK, another bad idea on my part. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Mary Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/15/08 03:23 PM
Wow I'm off catsailor for about 24 hours and all hell breaks loose.
I am HobieZealot.
I am sincerely sorry for my post and thank you Mary for deleting it.
I thought it was funny at the time but I was wrong.
Again I am also sorry for not getting here sooner.
Apologies all around. Looks like I got here too late.
Bob Merrick
I don't believe you. I mean, I don't believe you are Hobiezealot.
Posted By: Robi Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/15/08 09:02 PM
Wow I'm off catsailor for about 24 hours and all hell breaks loose.
I am HobieZealot.
I am sincerely sorry for my post and thank you Mary for deleting it.
I thought it was funny at the time but I was wrong.
Again I am also sorry for not getting here sooner.
Apologies all around. Looks like I got here too late.
Bob Merrick
I don't believe you. I mean, I don't believe you are Hobiezealot.
Mary there is an easy way to find out, PM me if you are interested. It has to do with the forum software.
Posted By: scooby_simon Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/15/08 09:58 PM
Wow I'm off catsailor for about 24 hours and all hell breaks loose.
I am HobieZealot.
I am sincerely sorry for my post and thank you Mary for deleting it.
I thought it was funny at the time but I was wrong.
Again I am also sorry for not getting here sooner.
Apologies all around. Looks like I got here too late.
Bob Merrick
I don't believe you. I mean, I don't believe you are Hobiezealot.
Mary there is an easy way to find out, PM me if you are interested. It has to do with the forum software.
mary, you have a PM with instructions.
Posted By: warbird Re: That's Mr. Weanie to you - 01/16/08 08:15 AM
Sadly the censuring of the material means I cannot see it or judge for myself what the fuss is about. I am pleased Mary, that you have seen that a cooler head is needed here than burning a mistake at the stake.
Someone, I think Shakespeare said humour is just tragedy plus time.
Humour, if that what is was is risqué by its very nature....everyone laughs until someone steps over an invisable mark.
Would this man indeed disparage a challenged person in a personal and thoughtless way?
I don't have to give a S*** what I say or do on the net because no one has that sort of hold on me..but some people are further into the rat race than others and might just e taking sensible precautions.
Sounds like winter has you Northern hemisphere guys all freaked out.
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