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Need some help on post at SA

Posted By: FasterDamnit

Need some help on post at SA - 03/01/08 01:29 AM

A post over on Sailing Anarchy about the Lightspeed 32 had one fellow asking why at the dock it looked like the stern was trimmed down, bows up a bit.

Here is my reply and the strange response.

" QUOTE(Fasterdamnit @ Mar 1 2008, 02:30 AM) *
LOL!

It is a super light cat, that is what is going on. Move the sail bags and other gear forward and it will probably chnage a bit.

Besides, since it will try to lower the bows as it accelerates, a touch of bow-up at rest is not a bad idea. [endQUOTE]


blablabla
catamaran when they speed up just trim by the stern , as trimaran
Foils allow to control that by adding lift behind the LCB
So think again
PS: more over if that just happens with sails....i just wonder with 5 crews then...
To improve your knowledge look how a multihull trim at speed:"
(pic of 60ft Tri, close hauled in flat water cruising along with bows just out of the water.)

So I said-

"Hah!
Sail cats much?

Well,
I have raced Hobie 16's, G-Cat 5.7, Prindle 18's and Stiletto 27. Sailed on an F24 in SF bay. That was a blast- flying 2 hulls is a trip. On a screaming reach they all exhibit the same behavior due to the dramatic increase in forward lift on the rig vs. drag on the hulls and a high power to weight ratio. The Stiletto, much like the Lightspeed had lots of freeboard, tall bows and drew only a few inches depth because it was so bouyant. So while the bows would drop a little bit, there was never much worry about pitchpole unlike the smaller beachcats."

And the response-

"Man i really struggle with that: You don't get any lift from the bow cause it is out of the water !
That's physics...at high speed , the hull will NATURALY trim by the stern...
then trim tabs , crew ...can change that"



Guess I am just lost and speaking gibberish...

http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=62221
Posted By: Jake

Re: Need some help on post at SA - 03/02/08 01:41 AM

save yourself the headaches and leave that forum.
Posted By: Karl_Brogger

Re: Need some help on post at SA - 03/02/08 01:57 AM

I read that thread. Good luck.
Posted By: papayamon2

Re: Need some help on post at SA - 03/02/08 02:58 AM

I second Jake. It's just about impossible to have any serious discussion there because of the constant adolescent venting.
Posted By: FasterDamnit

Re: Need some help on post at SA - 03/02/08 03:31 AM

Weelll-

I have been known to vent a bit myself...
Posted By: ThunderMuffin

Re: Need some help on post at SA - 03/02/08 03:16 PM

Seems like you got plenty of "help" from other people.

You just got trolled by a snobbish, elitist naval architect student. Don't bite on it next time.

Also, while the crowd "over there" may be "juvenile" and "frat-astic" there are also a plethora of knowledge nuggets asking to be picked up over there.
Posted By: Timbo

Re: Need some help on post at SA - 03/02/08 03:57 PM

Nuggets of Knowledge over there? You would have better luck finding a gold coin in a pile of dog poo. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: USA1273

Re: Need some help on post at SA - 03/03/08 05:35 AM

With regard to SA - there is nothing like watching some wanker cut down Trevor Baylis on the posting board (multiple world champion, Maxi cat sailor, Olympic medalist I think) like he is some kind of know nothing. Many times I have had posters ask about TP52 sails or technology (which I know first hand) and then had my reply cut down by individauls without a clue. It happens there.

There are nuggets - you just need to take the time to figure out who the real players are in their specific fleets.
Posted By: erice

Re: Need some help on post at SA - 03/03/08 11:00 AM

yup, there are a lot of dicks over there at SA

and it can be damn hard at times not to get sucked into their vortexes

what is it they say, "don't wrestle with a pig, you'll end up covered in filthy and the pig enjoys it"

oh and faster, i luv you 2 bra;o)
Posted By: scooby_simon

Re: Need some help on post at SA - 03/03/08 12:18 PM

If you want to have a giggle, just search for Doug Lord's posts.

Guy is a total <expletive deleted> of the highest order.
Posted By: zander

Re: Need some help on post at SA - 03/03/08 03:08 PM

Erice - good one!

I've always liked-

"Never argue with an idiot, they'll bring you down to their level, then beat you with experience."
Posted By: FasterDamnit

Re: Need some help on post at SA - 03/03/08 03:59 PM

I hear you. Also seems to be some folks that appear to be in the top tax brackets that seem to have a bit of attitude. But I am enjoying catching up on the sportboat world after not sailing for quite a few years.

Hang Loose, Big E!
Posted By: erice

Re: Need some help on post at SA - 03/03/08 07:20 PM

"Hang loose, Big E!"

here have a star!
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