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mast rake rigging on hc16

Posted By: amottironi

mast rake rigging on hc16 - 07/25/08 10:21 AM

i'm assembling the mast raking system on a hobie 16, does anyone know how much is the workload of the cheek block at the mast base? i was thinking of using a harken bullet cheek block code h092. Even if i noticed than some hc16 use an unknown cheek, must be hobie cat made.
Posted By: dacarls

Re: mast rake rigging on hc16 - 07/25/08 02:41 PM

The stock HC16 mast-mounted cheek blocks are unreliable, as the plastic wheel invariably breaks after 25 years of use. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Mugrace72

Re: mast rake rigging on hc16 - 07/25/08 02:57 PM

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i was thinking of using a harken bullet cheek block code h092. Even if i noticed than some hc16 use an unknown cheek, must be hobie cat made.


The standard block is a Ronstan item but the Harken 092 works fine and is class legal.

You should be able to get either one at West or any decent rigger.

Like Dave says, you probably need to replace it every 20 or so years. At 25 it will be a goner!
Posted By: warbird

Re: mast rake rigging on hc16 - 07/25/08 08:17 PM

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i'm assembling the mast raking system on a hobie 16, does anyone know how much is the workload of the cheek block at the mast base? i was thinking of using a harken bullet cheek block code h092. Even if i noticed than some hc16 use an unknown cheek, must be hobie cat made.


Mast raking system??
Is the mast adjustable while in flight?
Any photos of such a system??
Posted By: claus

Re: mast rake rigging on hc16 - 07/25/08 09:07 PM

No problems with load (4:1 or 3:1 on the jib halyard), any cheek block will do.
Posted By: mbounds

Re: mast rake rigging on hc16 - 07/25/08 11:19 PM

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i'm assembling the mast raking system on a hobie 16, does anyone know how much is the workload of the cheek block at the mast base? i was thinking of using a harken bullet cheek block code h092. Even if i noticed than some hc16 use an unknown cheek, must be hobie cat made.


Mast raking system??
Is the mast adjustable while in flight?
Any photos of such a system??


Class legal adjustable jib halyard system:
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Posted By: SurfCityRacing

Re: mast rake rigging on hc16 - 07/25/08 11:23 PM

This may help too:

http://www.hobiecat.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=10085
Posted By: warbird

Re: mast rake rigging on hc16 - 07/26/08 11:06 AM

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No problems with load (4:1 or 3:1 on the jib halyard), any cheek block will do.


I am not understanding. The photo shown does not depict a reduction unit with any gain in purchase, it just tracks to make the effort go with body weight.
So, this is nothing to do with mast rake, just jib tension or is the mast loose like on a Windrush 14 and the mast can be bent forward by putting pressure on the bridle ring but in the case the jib pulley?
Posted By: amottironi

Re: mast rake rigging on hc16 - 07/26/08 01:36 PM

thanks everyone, ciao
Posted By: dacarls

Re: mast rake rigging on hc16 - 07/26/08 01:52 PM

Wow- AND a 6:1 downhaul on the main!
When did that become class legal?
Posted By: mbounds

Re: mast rake rigging on hc16 - 07/26/08 08:54 PM

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Wow- AND a 6:1 downhaul on the main!
When did that become class legal?


2004
Posted By: mbounds

Re: mast rake rigging on hc16 - 07/26/08 08:59 PM

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I am not understanding. The photo shown does not depict a reduction unit with any gain in purchase, it just tracks to make the effort go with body weight.

The 3:1 purchase is at the head of the sail, therefore the tension on the line shown in the photo is 1/3 of the tension on the jib.

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So, this is nothing to do with mast rake, just jib tension or is the mast loose like on a Windrush 14 and the mast can be bent forward by putting pressure on the bridle ring but in the case the jib pulley?


No, this has everything to do with mast rake. On a Hobie 16, the wire sewn into the jib luff is the forestay when the jib is hoisted. The amount of jib halyard tension controls the amount of mast rake.
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