Canadian F18 Championship

The Canadian F18 Championship will be taking place on September 24-27, 2009 at the Etobicoke Yacht Club in Mississauga (Toronto), ON. 31 boats have already pre-registered as of August 24th with an anticipated attendance of 40+. This is shaping up to be one of the largest (if not biggest) F18 events in North America in 2009. For more info and the NOR go to www.multihull.ca

See you on the beach..eh?

Wow... that's a lot of championships to hold in three months!

NA F18 North American championships
Canadian F18 Championships
Nacra North American F18 Championships
Hobie Tiger North American Championships

Anybody going to be able to make more then one of these?

35 boats now pre-registered as of August 30th. Go to www.multihull.ca for the NOR. Looks more and more like this event will have north of 40 boats in attendance.

15 September 2009 Update:

37 boats now registered. I personally know of 3 boats that are going but not yet registered. That puts the event at 40 with more to come. For more info and the NOR go to www.multihull.ca Don't miss the largest F18 event in North America this year. Matt Bounds is the PRO...so good race courses are guaranteed.

See you on the start line!

JB

1-3 teams from the NE are not preregistered yet so thats some more entries!

What is the schedule for Thursday with boat weighing, Gunnar's clinic etc? Trying to figure out travel plans.
Thanks,
Chris

The schedule for thursday is to have the clinic in the late morning and early afternoon , possibly with some on water practice after that, then boat weighing/registration until 8 or 9pm.

Gunnar can't make it but we have another world class sailor giving some instruction who is Kevin Stittle, crew on the 4th place Tornado team in Beijing. The seminar isn't totally nailed down but that is the preliminary plan.

I was on the fence (New England Fleet) but it looks like my son is unable to crew, as it means taking him out of school. Have fun up there in Toronto!

Any other Americans having a hard time with the 1 million insurance requirement?
My insurance company cannot give it to me and another boat from my area is having the same problem.
1 million is awfully high for the US... Tybee required 100K and NAF18s required 150K
Have call in to Karen-Ann about this... if anyone else can help it'd be much appreciated.
Short of cancelling my policy to go with another company and spending a lot more money I am out of options. I would hate not to go to this event because of this.

How many F18s will be at Roton Point, practicing (or helping others practice) for the Canadians?

Mike

Sarah Davidson


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No problem with one Million with Insurance with them and a discount with US Sailing membership and was cheaper then what I was paying and better insurance

Sarah's awesome - give her a chance to earn your business. Plenty of threads here on Catsailor about insurance.

There are people available to crew. drop me a message.

Talked to Sarah.. I actually grew up with her daughter and coached her son years ago.
It's quite a bit more through them and the deductible is a lot more. I'd also have to pay extra for the $1mil coverage for the whole year even though I would never need it again. I'm not worth anything so I don't have to worry about that!
Not quite sure I can afford to spend more for liability for one regatta...

Mike... probably 10-12... what we've roughly had for every other regatta.

We are just reviewing the insurance requirements with the yacht club where the event is being hosted. They should be ok with a lower limit; I don't see any reason why not. Will let you know ASAP.

Thanks dave... I was waiting to hear from Karen-Ann... getting a little nervous with all the plans in limbo on this one.

Dave, any news on that compass requirement and not allowing a GPS on board?

Michel

Class Rule E.4 requires a "fixed steering compass".

I didn't see anything prohibiting a GPS.

RRS 87 requires the permission of the Class Association to change a class rule:


I'm writing the SI's this weekend, so somebody needs to let me know what's happening - including the insurance limits. That will require a revised NOR.

We have had many debates on the compass/gps questions, and the F18 rules aren't specific on GPS but for this event they are not allowed. We are also requiring a compass, doesn't have to be a fancy one, just anything.

Will there be time to put 40 boats on the scale Thursday night?

exactly!

Well, good question. I think so..Want to help?

has it changed that much? My last boat policy with Progressive was $200 per year and it included replacement cost for my N20 and $1million USD liabilty. And it covered racing.

I recall State Farm had something about the same price.

What did the one design program charge?

Don't forget, if all you can get for primary liability coverage is $300,000, you can buy a personal umbrella liability policy (if you don't already have one) that will boost your coverage to $1 million (or more) for a couple of hundred.

The added bonus is that this umbrella would cover over your auto and home liability policies, too.

There's more than one way to skin a beachcat....

Matt...

Looks like a compass ring out of a Cracker Jacks box . I found a compass in a box of old gear today. I'll just duct tape it to the mast and be done with it. Crazy, useless rule . The compass rule was waived at the recent NAF18's. Along with the paddle and towline. The exact wording was in the NOR and on the official notice board (hint, hint).

All...

Karen Ann will be writing up the final schedule draft this weekend and doing an eBlast to all who are already registered. Lots of meals and entertainment are on hand.

Looks like the event will be closer to 50 boats given all the buzz about who is coming. We're already over the 40 milestone unofficially. If you haven't registered already, please do so to help with planning purposes. You'll also get Karen Ann's eBlast before it's posted.

See you all on the very BIG start line

JB

PS: I've been informed that you will be able to pay your reg fees with a credit card. This is good for the US teams competing. No need to get CDN$$$ before hand and the CC will automatically do the exchange rate. Thanks KAX.

Just got an update from KarenAnn that the insurance requirement has been lowered to $100,000! Thank you for listening to our concerns! Looking forward to the event, will be pulling in Wednesday evening with 2 boats... looking to explore Toronto that night and start sailing Thursday morning (hangover dependent)... any recommendations on where to go for a group of 24 year old guys?

The Toronto Ballet:

Dave
I was looking at the NOR and is says that any boat is subject to inspection during the regatta and crews will be weighed. I am confused how the weighing of boats Thursday fits into this?
Ryan

What are you confused about? It doesn't imply that the weighing of boats or people on Thursday is optional, but rather that people's weight can go up or down during an event, and so crew must be legal weight for the whole event, not just the weigh in.

Dave
The NOR does not mention the weighing of boats before the regatta. I think if you want to weigh boats, it should be in the NOR.
Ryan

If its an F18 it should have been weighed and have valid measurement certificate already

There is only 1 boat in the US with a valid measurement cert. I suspect the Canadians are in a similar situation. This has been an extremely tough nut to crack in the US.

Are you bragging, Ding?

So you guys are going to measure, weight, and certify +/-50 cats & sails before the event?
I'm assuming you cant compete without a valid measurement certificate?

No . . .

They are going to weigh boats.

Hobie, NACRA and Capricorn sails are assumed to be F18 class legal.

There are only 3 brands of boats at this event.

4 Brands, don't forget Mystere!
So if you assume the sails are legal, why not assume they are class legal weight?

As for weighing them, yes. Measuring sails is another topic and I don't have the answer to that question. It may be that we measure only the non-manufacturer supplied sails.

Hobie and Nacra have an arrangement with the F18 class that their sails are automatically approved.

More details on the trailing session:
9-12: inside seminar in main building
1pm: 2 or 3 practice races (very short ones)
after that back to the main clubhouse for debriefing for an hour or so.

Sorry, Ryan - you're the only Mystere registered and I missed it in the list.

Boats are often built light and require corrector weights. Boats weights also tend to change over time.

The practice races won't start until 1500 (3 pm). The PRO (me) won't be there in time to get things organized much sooner.

Draft SIs are attached to this post.

That is not correct. All boats and sails regardless of who built them technically require certification. The inhouse certification is still a work in progress. The NAF18 Class and I assume the Canadian F18 class have been very lenient on this issue and have not required measurement certs at our regattas. The NAF18 fleet has a prescription to cover this but unfortunately only AHPC sent us an agreement, so we (NAF18) really haven't addressed the issue fully.

We really need to tighten things up as a fleet but resistance is significant.

It's also important to note that the NAF18 prescriptions only apply to the US F18 fleet.

Were all sails measured and boats weighed at the North Americans at ABYC?

I know for a fact that EYC doesn't have the facility to measure sails unless they clear out the entire upper floor of the clubhouse. Even that may not be big enough.

All boats are weighed at every nationals, that's something we have been very diligent about. Sails are placed against a template only. I haven't been to a Nationals for a few years so sail verification may need clarification. Yes, I do feel shame about that.

Revised NOR has been issued. No major changes, but it clarifies some things.

It also now complies with RRS 89.2(a) and Appendix J. Changes are highlighted on the attached revised NOR.