F18 Worlds - Multimedia

This is going to be an awesome regatta. And IF the multimedia works coverage could be the best it's been.

This is on their website under tracking:

Live tracking of all boats and buoys.
Live ranking.
Replay of past races (available months after the event, include fast and slow replay capabilities)
All races events reported by race officers.
E-Mail notifications a few minutes before each races really starts.

http://ssl2.ovh.net/~cvberquy/f18worlds2010/tracking/

Anyone know how to register for the email notifications??? I can't find it.

Cheers
Gav

Linky fixed:

F18 Tracking

Anyone know how to get the tracking to work??

I'm assuming that first they'll need some data and that, at some point, the website author will provide a link......

Yep... I was assuming the same... But thought they would have tested it during the practice race yesterday.

checked out the trac trac website and it just sent me back to the event website. What a crock!

Lets all e-mail the webmaster;

paul@cvberquy.org

do it now!

So much for the tracking....

The twitter said that 1st start - general recall about 11 mins ago - Prep signal for second start about 5 mins ago... That means they are probably racing.

Another General recall!

Looks like the email worked... Just got the following twit

"Online tracking will be available for gold fleet on last 3 days of the event. (website will be updated)"

Twitter address... F18 Worlds Twitter (Better than nothing)

Blimey!

What about results - where do you think we'll find those??

Just got this from Paul:

Hi,

I didn't get any results for the practice race yesterday. Most boats raced
without paying any attention to the general recall so there would have been
only 30 boats ranked... 1st race for today is being sailed. I will try to
update the website as soon as possible.

Best Regards,
Paul Malécot
Club de Voile de la Baie d'Erquy

So at least they're trying - which is good.

No tracking until Wednesday for the final races of the Gold fleet- they are working on results. 1st race done.

Where are they going to post the results?? There's no tab for it on the website....

Aren't we at a point in time where cat sailing needs to make itself more media friendly and interesting for spectators!
Our 2 premier events [F18 and a class worlds] aren't doing much good are they
I think that i will drop Msr Bovyn a line........

Robbie and Squirrel



Photo Alex Udin

Found on

I wonder about windage...

Bundy 1,1,6
Larsen 5,22,2
Team innovation 5,2,1

That's all I got from twitter. No other results yet

results for the first day:

http://www.cvberquy.org/f18worlds2010/results/f18w2010_s.htm

Wow, Bundy has 1, OCS and DNF, far from the 1,1,6 he claimed on twitter...

Also I didn't know that after being first Australian, then Dutch, Mich Booth was now a Spaniard.

Bundock/Howden 111! Looks like something must have broken...

It's going to be a full on brawl in the top 20.

His wife is Spanish and he's had a home there for many years.

It's his birthday today so be nice.

The organisation is a bit of a mess, yesterday Mr.Bovyn had to call out 160 sailnumbers so that we could collect our coloured ribbon, this also meant racing was delayed by an hour.
The opening ceremony was equally chaotic with a barely audible sound system and nothing like what an opening ceremony should look like for an event like this.
Yesterday the sailing was great though, a very tough fleet with very close racing and crowded starts.

From Bundy's twitter



and

Video (sorry mostly in French): http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdxkwi_f18-worlds-day1_sport

It finishes with an interview of Bernier/Thomas in English at 2:00.

Email from Mike Easton about yesteray's racing and today's predicted conditions...


First day of racing went ok here. The wind was probably the best of the
whole event (10-15 kts). Definitely a huge learning curve when we're
starting with 80 other boats. You have to line up at least 2min before the
start and then hold your position there if you want any chance of being
first row. Competition is really tight with everyone going about the same
speed, especially the top guys. It's all about the start and first beat
because after that there's not many passing lanes and you can't just boat
speed ahead of everyone else. We finally got our ****/nerves sorted out by
the 3rd race. Hoping for more results like that.

Today the wind is looking really light. Looking like a max of 5kts today.
Ugh!

-Mike


GO USA!!!

Chris

Robbie/JW are 34th. Any guess how well they will finish?

It amazes me. In the last year, I was able to match course and speed with Robbie/Taylor for almost a whole leg! Maybe 5-6 minutes...as they were lapping me.

This is a very subtle game...

I'm surprised they're that low, but I'd be shocked if Robbie didn't bounce back in the light stuff, that <7 stuff is his wind.

What is the format? Two courses, how many fleets? How do you move to different fleets?

The NOR does a good job describing the course and format.

F18 Worlds NOR

Don't know if anyone else has had a look at the vid....but the viewing point for spectators looks mint - what an awesome place to put a web cam...

sigh........

Thanks David.

http://www.f18-international.org/index.php?option=com_phocadownload&view=file&id=4:2010-worlds-notice-of-race&Itemid=50

I saw the Video.. I love the NED sail (0:51)...

After 3 races the scores are silly tight they have a 10, 31, 14 and with the scoring being so tight the 31 really hurts. Considering Robbie's coaching/work schedule and the very limited amount of time Robbie and JW have actually sailed together they aren't doing too bad especially when you factor in what they are up against.

Props to Greg and Jacques! Top 20 after day one.

Mike and Tripp are also sailing well in their first F18 Worlds! You think they were fast before, wait until they get back, you don't go to a Worlds and get slower!

Let's not forget our fourth US team; Garth Fasano and Tyler Burd!

http://www.cvberquy.org/f18worlds2010/results/f18w2010_5.htm

Today's results.

Goodall sure is making a good showing. Our USA guys are up there too.

Results are up after 6 races. This link is the the results page and not just the daily sheet.

http://www.cvberquy.org/f18worlds2010/results/

Greg and Jacques continue to be the top US team and moved up a spot to 19th.

Robbie slipped a bit and is now 37th. EASTON / BURD moved up to 32nd.

Not bad for a 56 year old!!

Wow! Thomas and Bernier one spot behind Ashby and Spithill. That's pretty good.

Did Jacques really have to say "It shouldn't be a problem to attain a good result in the regatta?"

What the hell was he thinking???!!! That's almost as bad as winning a practice race!

Seriously, good luck to all competitors, especially Hobie sailors from USA!

Mike

Nice to see Bundy back where he belongs!

Stevie Brewin is doing really well for a weekend warrior.

Considering how much Macca likes to throw up his professional sailing title, you would think he would be higher than 50th?

I was curious how the sailors were going up and down in rankings during each race. I put the races in a spreadsheet then got the places of each sailor after each race. Light for high, brown for low, and blue for midrange. You can see how the top 39 (it was supposed to be 40)are changing positions as the races proceed. The last column is the present position.

Dan - that's freakin neat!

I think he said that he and Greg were sharing one pair of undies due to lost baggage. Now that's a special skipper/ crew bond.

j

Where ????

looks like the brits have opened a can of whoop butt on the usa's butts

sorry for jerkin your chain :/, just thought i'd mention there were other nations at the top

Tracking soon...hopefully. Just got this email back:

Hi,

Race are delayed. Tracking is comming...

Best Regards,
Paul Malécot
Club de Voile de la Baie d'Erquy

We're kinda used to mediocrity at worlds...so keep that in perspective when reading my statement!

Wind is picking up. Race 7 could start in around 15 mins. Live tracking available: Tracking

Tracking is up and it's pretty cool. No way am I gonna get any work done today.

crap, they must have me blocked from it here at work and I can't get it to play on my iphone.

Comment from #1 son just now upon reading that Booth in now ESP

"I wouldn't want anything to do with him in a war"

Thanks, I was trying to pretend that part of the conversation never happened...

How embarrassing. Matt, don't you pay these guys???

Mike

Guess that trip to San Francisco really took hold for those too.

It's the lost baggage story... Using borrowed sailing gear sucks too. How comfortable can that be?

i would rather borrow sailing gear than my skippers skivies

Looks like the tracking doesn't score correctly on the leader board? They must set up the leaders (top 16 today) on a daily basis? Any actual results for the rest of the fleet yet?

Thought I counted 20 trackers. As you can imagine, there are many more sailing in the group. I guess there are only so many trackers so there is a chance that someone, not in the top, will come through and not be seen on the screen.

Love the tracker! You can replay the races and see how fast tacks and gybes were so you can pace your own performance off them.

Dan

Is that how those two guys ended up in the leopard print wetsuits?

OUCH!!!

Results through Race 8 are up. Showing Greg and Jacques with 2 BIG ones. A DNF and a 50 plus. Dropped to 42 on that list.

US team EASTON Michael / BURD Tripp moved up to 16th (best US team result)

Those last two races must have had some light and shifty winds leaving a lot of teams totally screwed. There are some monster finishes for teams well down the leader board. Looks like it had to be an incredibly frustrating day on the course.

Kudo's to the top teams that can still pull good scores in those conditions.

Looks like they wait 'til the jury decision for the day and then update the scoring one time.

Notice the throw-out hasn't changed...would put Greg & Jacques mid twenties thru eight races.

and WOW - checkout the Goodall's score - swap the 11 for a 46 and it rockets them into 3rd!

You can get the replays, the races were only ~28 min. Of course, they only show those 16 boats with trackers.

OK, I'm an idiot, BUT


Why does it look like there is a LOT of running down the start line right before the starts? Is that correct...or is it the way it's tracking?

It appears to have been a tough day - On the water and in the protest room.

From Bundy's Twitter - "Starts were tough. First start was a joke, no one crossed on Starboard. Black flag after black flag and some pushing hard, some to hard."

AND

"Tough day on the water. Some big scores for the main players but we survived & made some nice comebacks scoring 5,9,7."

Results updated, without jury...






Mike

You can't change your throw out from the qualification series. There are no throw outs in the gold series yet

I think the jury are going to be busy today....

Quote from Brett Goodall's Twitter - "Interesting day on the water... will have to see how the scores and protests shake out before we get results."

It was because there was a massive pin end bias to the starts. Race 7 nearly all boats started on port. If you watch race 8 a couple of boats can't even make the pin on starboard - they have to tack to get around it.

I can understand having a pin end bias to a start with 90 boats but not being able to make it around the pin reminds me of our club races......not a worlds.

Kiss of death !!!!!!!! sorry Hugh and others , shoulda kept my gob shut !!!!

They should represent that in the scoring table a little better...maybe?

Sounds like a bad day to be on race committee!

Naw...otherwise my reputation for getting excited and posting BEFORE reading all the fine print will be tarnished

In race 10, at about the 57th min. Did Aus 3 foul Fra 9? Coming into the gate it looked as though FRA 9 had to bare away when AUS 3 had plenty of room to round. They were 10 min. behind the leaders. Does it matter?

Dont Worry just heard this from Hugh -
getting redress for race 8 and 9 (Average Points from all races) as he had a collision with a press boat just after the start of race 7 and was slowly sinking - , he managed to finish race 7 with one hull full of water – noticed whilst watching the tracker that he has had a good race 10 so will be pushing hard for the title still !!!! Also Rob looks like he got a 1st too !!!!

What's up with all the DNF's on juried race 9? Something funky there. The scoring and media reporting seem less than ideal to appease the curious amongst us, especially for an event of world class stature.

Wind died in 3rd (9th) race...those not finishing within 20 minutes after 1st boat (finisher) scored DNF

Anybody know what's going on withe these guys:

62

AUS 4


BREWIN Steven
BENSON Jack

11.00
15.00
14.00
32.00
1.00
1.00
81.00 BFD
81.00 DNF
81.00 DNF


They were having a pretty good series, caught two bullets back to back then got nailed with a Black Flag then two DNF's. Talk about riding the emotional roller coaster!

whats a black flag mean?

The race committee normally has a few options if the fleet continues to be over early during the starts. If they have had several general recalls, they will start increasing the penalties of being over early. The most severe is the "black flag" where you are basically DSQ'd if you get caught over early. Others can make you have to round the ends of the line to restart instead of dipping the line or assessing a percentage penalty to your finish.

For more information, checkout Rule 30 in the RRS.

thanks Jake

They were well back, but Goodall/Goodall beat Ashby/Spithill by two seconds in race 11!

Looks like a charge back to the beach after a general recall in race 12

Just thought it was cool to post an image that was just taken minutes ago.

Photo Credit: Jill Nickerson

Some more...

there are some real fun ones up at Robbies FaceBook page ...

On the beach.

Results through race 11

Looks a bit different today.

Wow...whatever happened today shook things up quite a bit!

Looks like a 3 horse race now
One wildcat, one infusion and one C2 - just how it's meant to be!
One FRA, one GBR and one AUS!

Winds where all over the place today, we did the first race in very light winds and finished somewhere at the end of the silver fleet.
Then the RC sent us back to the beach for an hour untill the wind filled back in.
The second race had perfect conditions with around 15kts of breeze, we where first to the top mark but fell back because we had a HUGE piece of weed stuck to lee board (seaweed is a big problem here!), ended up finishing 19 or something.
We where a bit too aggresive on the third start and got a black flag and returned to the beach.
"fortunately" a lot of sailors didnt see the Course1 flag and sailed Course 2 instead ;-)

The level of all the sailors here is very high, even in the silver fleet people make very little mistakes, in the gold fleet even the top sailors are strugling to stay at the top.

Did you guys see the awesome helicopter footage they shot yesterday?
Last day tomorrow and an early start at 11:00, I really hope there is some wind that early in the day.

Got a link to it?

I hope we don't see any team racing going on. That sort of thing happened in the J/24 class in the 1980's amongst the different sail makers. It was not good for the class.

it's a shame that you thinking that negatively
it's hasn't happened before has it? Why now?

+1, and besides it's a well known fact J24 drivers are pure rif raf. :-)

Considering everything is so close I could not resist making another position chart. Race place in blue and over all position in white, blue, red.

Click to see larger image

You guys need to get out more. What Bob said was the furthest from my mind when I read the prior post, and may (hopefully) very well NOT be the case at this event, but there are more than a few examples of where this has happened in the past.

It's not always boats/sailmakers, either. PU has some good stories from people taking "national pride" a bit too far during some past Hobie Worlds.

Mike

Dan,

Those numbers don't seem to line up...take Goodall for example...that is, unless I really don't understand what I'm looking at.

Mike there is no doubt that what you're talking about has happened but as far as we know it hasn't been an issue at this event or previous F18 Worlds and the post was a bit of a buzz kill.

Let me put it this way, It would be a real credit to the F18 class if this didn't happen. In other classes the temptation has proven to be too large to overcome.

Jake:

The columns of c.1 - c11 are the places in those races. The columns Pos1 - Pos11 are their standings overall after each race. I thought it was interesting to see how they move positions after each race then decided to keep each race to refer to. The last column is their present position.

This is a really nice presentation of the results Dan. Thanks.

Race 13 had GBR7 in 2nd and FRA36 in 3rd on the tracking, bit of a gap between them so some no-trackers may have got in there.

I make it that GBR7 will drop a 12th when the discard comes in and FRA36 a 10th

So it could be all square at the top with it all coming down to the last race!

AUS888 was 6th on the tracker so may well be out of it now.

I think Styles is artificially high with the redress given by the jury.

WOW - what a final leg!
The 2 front runners dueling it out with GBR7 doing a 360 at the gate

I think that FRA36 may have clinched it

So you think an average of 13 from the 15 races sailed (soon to be) is artificially high ? BTW including the actual race where he was sinking and still got a 12th place . Yes i assume your yanking our chain with that comment then !!!

Could argue his 12th should be a redress also, giving him an average of 4.375 for 3 x redress races or a total score of 37.125 after 11 races and in top spot.

His redresses are scored so low because he has sailed consistantly at the top end.

So what is the redress and average of?
it wasn't races that day or races so far in gold fleet
Will it be an average of ALL races in gold fleet INCLUDING TODAY? - if so he is in the lead!

The results posted so far are to race 11. He has been given 6.3. In the earlier rounds, his scores should have been better as you were only sailing against 50% of the good guys in any one race. In the finals your up against 100% of the good guys.

It is unfair to competitors as nobody knows what his "actual" score is as it keeps changing.

The start on race 15 was a shambles!
GBR7 and AUS888 are sailing each other out of contention

The only requirement for redress given is that it be as fair an arrangement as possible for all boats. Beyond that, it is limited only by the imagination of the protest committee. It could be any of the above, or something else entirely - whatever PC thinks is fair. It would be nice to know what redress was actually given.


That is a very good argument - the boats' relative positions affects their tactics. This is why the USS Judges' Manual recommends against including all future scores in redress. In a major event such as this, you'd typically see average-score redress exclude at least the last day (or last round) of competition.

Regards,
Eric

How true and most PC and juries the imagination is limited

I think Bundy is chasing second buy driving Styles as far back in the fleet as possible, forcing Styles' average redress scores up.

Agreed; making the redress discussion / decision more interesting; driving him down the fleet effects the current result and previous. Never seen redress average for whole series; just up to the pooint of the award.

[quote=scooby_simon
Never seen redress average for whole series; just up to the pooint of the award. [/quote]

agreed it should have been "fixed" prior to going into the last day or points allocated.

Redress to the point of the award would have been somewhat unfair, as it is allegedly easier to pick up lower points during qualifying.

Redress based only on the result of the gold fleet up to the incident would have been unfair as well considering when the issue happened (only one race sailed in the gold fleet, with a hull full of water). Giving them three 12 would have been rough.

Interesting situation.

This said I can't figure out where the 6.3 is coming from on the results published so far. None of the obvious average calculations give me anything meaningful. All the number I'm building are all *lower* than 6.3...

The only way to get to 6.3 I found is to add 1 to all the qualification scores (including the discard) and then average them. But in that case his redress would be fixed, not fluctuating.

[Coming back after looking at all the results so far. I don't see any indication that the RDG is a fluctuating number. How do you know it is?]

The way to get 6,3 is:
2,3,3,5,8,11,12=44 / 7 = 6,29

The RDGs previous races

With AUS888 having an OCS and GBR7's worst score a 12, AUS888 stands to lose BADLY by getting dragged backwards through the fleet. GBR7 will drop any score worse than a 12 and easily hang on to 2nd place....but then again, AUS88 has 50 points over fourth place. It's a race of the top three as they're only separated by 5 points total.

Bundy OCS is from qualifying, does not count for his final races discards

Yeah, but that's 6.29, not 6.30. And they put 6.30, with the zero, in the results. For me it means it is significant.

But then, after all, they're French, so I expect them not too be too logical

Pepin: I don't get Bundock's move in the 57th minute of race 15. Why come back up to weather like that?

It looked like there was a shift to the right making the finish line a bit close to the wind. If the left pin wasn't where the GPS said it was (more left) then a quick tack to the left pin might allow you to pick up some of the boats that kept sailing to the right side of the finish.

I think he went around the finish line instead of through it. DNF better than RAF? He must have done something bad. Considering how close he was from GBR7 all the way around he must have tried something tactical I'm guessing.

Just heard from the boys... much better results today will move them back up a bit. A 5th and a 6th I heard. Not sure on the third race for the day. No official results are up yet.

The winner is:

FRA 36 BACKES Olivier / JARLEGAN Arnaud Hobie Wild Cat

Information overload coming out of Erquy again!

I do have to say... very poorly done on their part. Still no results. Very little info or even pictures this week. At the peak of interest in this thing you can't find out about ANYTHING. The only cool thing has been the tracking, but without the entire fleet listed or real results for the fleet available fairly quick... Its been really frustrating.

On twitter Bundy said he was second...

I am not so sure we can bitch about the coverage

Back in the day... the regatta organizer would have been responsible for getting the results published by the day after the event and a brief regatta report published for their class publication... perhaps months down the road.

The goal was to give the class members who did not participate a taste of what they missed and motivate them to make the next big class event.

It seems that people think that real time regatta reports will do MORE then this.... and actually grow the class (more new sailors) and grow participation (bigger numbers). (Do you think that the media intense regatta grows interest in the class and increases participation or is this BS... If you agree... what other non cat regattas have you watched on line?)

So... Here is my question is... Who should pay for the multimedia real time reporting every one wants.

The Class Association through dues... because they are the audience for any media reporting?

The competitors at the event... because they get the benefit of the publicity to the world at large?

A sponsor who would rather see their sponsorship go into the internet media then say a dinner or giveaways to the competitors?

Or ... Set it up as pay per view and let those that interested in the class and the event pay for the show?



Lots of related questions... if the Class Association is paying for media.... Do they own the copyright and control the message.

Should you pay for reporters to cover your event?

Should there be a clear line between Reporters who cover events for media outlets... like SA, CatSailor, XS racing, Scuttlebut, Daily Sail, Catsailing blg and the PR person your class hires to represent the class to the world.

I think it makes for a much broader audience for sure. Especially if you can get it onto SA or major outlets as was done for the Texas 300 or even the West Coast F18 Champs. A week long event like the 300 fares better than a weekend one in that regard. Followers are on line all week. Its great for family and friends too. Once the event is over the interest falls totally flat.

I've done this (unofficially) at most every H16 Worlds I've been to in recent years. It's not high tech or costly to get some images and some info up on a timely basis. You just have to have a dedicated interest to share info.

It isn't always easy as noted by Jeremy in SF. They had all the assets except for a clean Internet connection. I hear that was an issue in France as well.

I guess we don't need full coverage in real time, but at least the official results should be on the web when the ceremony is over. It´s just sending a file by ftp.

Does anybody have any results?

And anyone know who was sailing what sort of boat?

Anyone else feel like a mushroom?


Regards,

Paul

Mark, are you F-ing kidding???

Why should we lower ourselves to other classes who are doing this poorly? It is embarassing in this day and age that real-time coverage isn't the NORM.

This can be low-budget; for example, in 2006 at the Hobie 16 NAs in RI, Lori Mohney did live updates from my RV via a wifi connection, being fed information via VHF from the water (Mimi). As Matt can attest, this had been common practice at major Hobie Cat events for many years prior to 2006.

This is a service to all sailors interested in the classes. If we can't attend a major event, we want to be able to read about how our friends are doing. This has nothing to do with sponsors, growing the class, or anything else. True, all of those things can be wrapped in (an up goes the cost and difficulty), but at the end of the day, WE are the primary audience, and that's who we should be focused on pleasing.

If SA can figure out a way to profit from this, more power to them, but it looks to me like they're eating volunteers to make it go.

Mike

SA's not really 'eating volunteers', there is definitely $$ switching hands. There should be $$ switching hands too, and the classes and manufacturers and whoever else with a vested interest in the event should want to pony-up I think. It's definitely not easy to live feed with a skeleton crew, there should be at least 4 dudes helping out, but that's not often practical.

Wait until you see our next OTWA West production for example. The learning curve was steep, but we have it dialed now...technology-wise at least. Commentary's still gonna suck.

Even just blogging in conjunction with a ton of pics in a thread at regular intervals is better than nothing, and it's cheap and anyone can do it. It just means that someone's going to have to lay off the rum a bit. It's like having designated driver.

Normally, the yacht club hosting the event is proud to have the event and is interested in publicizing the happenings. They would also stand to benefit from the national or worldly exposure for their club. The class would expect to benefit from the exposure as well - certainly with 150 boats on the start line, it's one of the world's largest sailing events and these numbers and this exposure will help to keep the class healthy and viable and growing. Usually, this works out pretty well as everyone is interested in the publicity.

Both the very recent A-cat worlds and the F18 worlds have had abysmal publicity and it's a real shame. As folks pointed out, it's really not that hard to provide. Video is nice but not necessary...pictures and some reporting are easy and should be required.

With two dull examples having just taken place, I feel like the global class organizations (F18, A-cat, F16, etc) should have a requirement of the clubs hosting the events to provide a particular minimum of online coverage as a requirement for hosting the event.

You're suggesting the A Class, F18, and F16 classes sit down at the same table.

Over the last couple years we have been filming at events like the Teva Mountain Games, Gorge Games, surf contests, etc and one characteristic of the the successful (success in terms of gaining and retaining sponsorship) events is that media is a primary, if not the main, consideration.

Teva has been the gold standard. The entire weekend is planned with media and viewership in mind. So many times we heard "losing crowd" on the organizers radios when there was a gap in the action between events. Organizers quickly redirected spectators and media to the next event or to some point of interest. The event is a carefully orchestrated plan of moving crowds and media from one area of interest to the next. Yes, this is a different kind of an event than a sailing regatta, but the point is the same, the sponsors and media coverage are at least on equal footing with the event organization.

I get asked to come and shoot video a lot, usually at most a few weeks or maybe a month or two before the event. There is usually no budget, and for the most part, no overall media strategy. We realize shooting video at a sailing event is not a profit motivated undertaking. You do it to help the sport and hopefully have some fun. I think most people like myself however, are not willing to take a loss over the expenses. On top of that, were missing work if its during the week which is another loss. There needs to be some budget, which means sponsors, which means a media plan.

One of the events that did get some decent viewership was the F18 Nationals that Tracy Hawks ran years ago. We started working with her well in advance and even though we had problems like the internet troubles, we got a large about of videos out during the week. At one point we had power boats running tapes back and forth to the beach so that we could edit in parallel during the day and post videos each night. When we realized our internet link wouldn't work, we made a deal with a local homeowner to outfit his house with a new wireless router if he let us set up a link from his house to the beach for the week. The point being, the event organizers kept media coverage as a main focus.

I know this is easier said than done, and can be a lot of extra work. Its quite often hard enough just to get enough people to run the event, but just thought Id add my 2 cents as we really enjoy filming at these kind of events.

Ok, the results are finally up - there must have been a lot of arm waving and long faces when they went up
I still don't get how they came to an redress average of 14 points for GBR7
If you average all the other score [as before] I make it 9.6

I'm not sure how you got that out of that.

You had suggested a "particular minimum". How else would you determine the minimum?

At least a report from each race to be posted within 1 hour of the conclusion of each race and an overall report of the day posted within 2 hours of the completion of the day's final race? 20 photos per day?

That is certainly minimal.

it's more than we got in either case!

I had a little more in mind. Move this to another thread and see if anyone is interested in developing the idea.

Just got home from Erquy-France (a 980km drive).
I haven't read the whole thread but there was a French TV crew on the beach every day doing interviews and editing some some og the helicopter footage (I hope all of that will find its way online).
This is the link to the video channel: http://www.dailymotion.com/F18MONDE
The leading source of information was probably the CatSailingNews blog.

The redress for Hugh Styles was changed in the results to be the average of his final races rather then the average of his Qualifying races, so the last race where he was sailed down the fleet cost him the title. If he had finished 62nd instead of 63rd, he would have at least comes 2nd. However, I'm sure none of them knew that on the water.

I'm an IJ and if I'm awarding average points, what I try and do is make sure that any redress is fixed going into the last day so everyone knows where they stand. So in the Jury decision say something like "redress to be average off all races in the finals on day 1 & 2", so that the morning of the third and final day, the RDG becomes fixed. Still, we don't have any detail from the Jury, so hard to comment.

Have a look at the level of detail from the Jury at the Laser Radial worlds (Ok, so I'm biased .. my daughter is on the Jury :-) .....)

http://www.laserworlds2010.co.uk/_35458/noticeboard


So the points for the top 3 going into the last race were:

1 Styles 38.4
2 Backes 39
3 Bundock 58

And without a bad race in the Finals, Styles should have had the luxury of trying to sail Backes down the fleet, instead he was the one sailed down the fleet and lost out. So the Jury decision won/lost the event for Hugh. Pity we don't even know what the Redress was for.

Paul

Yes we Know
Also check video of day 4 , Styles talks about it

Good luck trying to sell catamarans in holland Mr Bundy!

Stupid media boat.

It is all part of the game I guess.
I doubt Styles wouldn't have done the same if the roles where reversed, IMHO it was a very smart tactical move by Bundy.
He did the same thing at the '07 worlds in Aus where he matchraced Booth down the fleet in the final race to win the title.

Judging by the last thing I saw of Styles I think he was pretty much over it.
We where literally kicked out of the little restaurant/bar at the beach at midnight,
some Aussies wanted to buy the place but the owner didn't go for it! (I think after a week he was happy to see the catsailors go to be honest).

Nowhere near home yet - in fact, the family joined me here in France for a few days. I'm sitting in a sweet little hotel in St. Malo, still marveling at the amazing experience of sailing a Worlds. The RC work was a bit shaky at times, but the feeling you get sailing in such a big fleet is just as incredible as it had been described to me. I spent much of the week simply flabbergasted. I feel very lucky to have had the chance to sail with Robbie - he's a very patient and level-headed skipper. Those big crowds and nutty reaches just didn't seem to phase him... I'm double-lucky to have been on the boat with someone who's "seen it all." I think our final result was pretty respectable - top US team.

Now for the big news. Our bid to host the 2012 Worlds at ABYC from September 7-15 was approved unanimously by the World Council. All the comments here about coverage need to get cleaned up and put into a media plan. Anyone who wants to roll up sleeves and pitch in, drop me a PM. Clock started yesterday. Let's show the world what we can do.

John

Good to know you'be been backed by the wc for the 2012 Worlds. Arg had 5 crews at Erquy but for Abyc's Worlds, we'll have more and I'll be there for sure, also Chile and Uruguay will send crews as now they already started racing on local fleets, the big challenge should be getting F18 sailors from Brazil too, but no fleet yet-

Glad it was an unanimous decision.

Cheers,
Martin

Congrats on bringing the 2012 F18 Worlds to the US. Where will the 2011 event be held?

2011 F18 Worlds are in Hungary.

Awesome JW.

What the duce??

Congrats on the 2012 bid! Sounds like a great venue.
It was nice meeting you JW, sorry I didn't get to talk to you much but a week just seems to fly by...
Enjoy your stay in Saint Malo, such a beautiful town.
Cheers.

OK do tell... What is ABYC code for?

ABYC

Alamitos Bay Yacht Club

Just got back from the Worlds (had to sail a keelboat back)

Hugh got screwed over from winning the Worlds, the press boats were not controlled at all and we nearly got hit several times by press boats going too fast in the middle of the fleet. The jury screwed him around a bit not making thier mind up.

Event was ok, good racing, but badly organize ashore sadly, nobody knew when they were putting food on and the event bar was a tiny little tent that offered very little food so very few people hung around, luckily there was a cafe just across the road (which kicked out about 70 biding customers at midnight on the last night as the wanted to close). On the sunday afternoon they tried to tell us that all of us up one end of the beach had to move to the other end to give space for swimmers, that didnt happen.

The sailors made it a really fun event though, just would of liked a bit more wind!

Are you saying that the press boats stopped Hugh from winning?
If that is the case then it is no a good day for Hugh but more importantly it is not a good day for sailing.