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2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11

Posted By: Reiss

2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 07/06/12 08:31 PM

Announcement - Details of 2012 US F16 National Championship
Posted By: Karl_Brogger

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 07/13/12 12:05 AM

BUMP

Holy hell slackers! This has been up almost a week and I'm the only person registered!
Posted By: David Ingram

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 07/13/12 05:23 PM

Okay where is this list? Do you need a secret decoder ring? Or are you just f'in with people? Which would be completely out of character for you.

http://f16nationals.sailbenevita.com/race-information/entry-list/
Posted By: pgp

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 07/13/12 05:43 PM

http://isailrace.com/Event/EventDetails/be135c8b-08db-46d1-bd93-d2addc7a1012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upwrq1QZKV8
Posted By: Reiss

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 07/16/12 07:56 PM

Sorry about that Dave. The link showing who has registered is now activated for both the F16 Nationals and for the Caterwaul. Go to www.f16national.com, click on Race Info, then select Entry List. There are now active links for both regattas. Check periodically at the website as we are updating and adding info and pics regularly! Still hoping for a great big turnout of F16s for the championship, and other spin and A class cats for the Caterwaul.
Posted By: Reiss

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 08/02/12 03:37 AM

Just noticed I had a typo in my original post about the regatta website for the 2012 F16 Nationals. The website is www.f16nationals.com (with an "s") Also, don't forget running in conjunction with the championship we will have our annual Caterwaul welcoming all spin boat 22.5' and less and all A-Cats. We are expecting a big fleet of F18s for the Caterwaul.
Posted By: pbl

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 08/16/12 02:47 AM

So after sailing the boat just eight times, mostly on a lake with rapid 150 degree wind shifts and gust-lull-gust conditions, I've signed up for the F16 Nats. Now, it's time to kick some butt, or get kicked. Either way, I'm in!!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 08/27/12 02:32 PM

Anyone planning to do Nationals singlehanded?
Posted By: pgp

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 08/27/12 10:12 PM

+1
Posted By: Karl_Brogger

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 08/27/12 11:36 PM

I'm doing it two up. Dan and will be Team Pork at probably close to 400lbs. Bring the wind bitches!
Posted By: Timbo

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 08/28/12 01:06 AM

I think there will be -some wind- over there tomorrow, you two should get out there and practice...

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at4+shtml/212348.shtml?tswind120?large#contents

;^)
Posted By: F-18 5150

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 08/28/12 04:59 AM

We had talked about this but I'm going out of the country.
Posted By: Reiss

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 09/25/12 07:00 PM

We are delighted to see that so many folks have indicated on the catsailor website that they intend to sail the F16 Nationals (http://www.catsailor.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=226681#Post226681) . It would help us out tremendously if you would go ahead and register. From what we have heard from the sailors, we are expecting a fantastic turnout, but it is hard to make our plans (and to entice our potential sponsors) until folks go ahead and register. Help us make it the best event for you possible by registering now! Thank you so much, and we look forward to hosting you in November. Details at www.f16nationals.com
Posted By: David Ingram

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 09/26/12 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
I'm doing it two up. Dan and will be Team Pork at probably close to 400lbs. Bring the wind bitches!


Since when does sailing heavy need breeze?
Posted By: Karl_Brogger

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 09/26/12 04:53 PM

It just becomes easy then. Almost idiot proof, which is lucky because my boat will have two.
Posted By: Reiss

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 10/11/12 04:53 AM

Does anyone know how to get in touch with Kris Hathaway? The F16 Nationals regatta organizers need some input from the F16 Class Officers and the email address we have must be flawed (no response) and we don't have a telephone number for him. Can anyone pass on good contact info for Kris? Thanks!
Posted By: pgp

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 10/11/12 11:33 AM

Eric Witte is the class President.
Posted By: Karl_Brogger

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 10/15/12 04:59 PM

Something to think about!!!! Tuesday prior to the event is the election. I'm going to be on the road, and have to do an absentee ballot. This just hit me yesterday.

I'm sure other's are in this scenario as well.
Posted By: bacho

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 10/31/12 04:08 PM

Anyone need crew or need a ride for Thursday? My crew will not arrive till later Thursday and not sure I want to solo the 20
Posted By: Karl_Brogger

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/05/12 07:10 PM

Hitting the road.
I hate how hard a triple stack pulls.
Posted By: Karl_Brogger

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/05/12 11:13 PM

Balls. 10.43mpg on the first tank. Ouch.
Posted By: mikekrantz

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/06/12 02:31 PM

Damn, that's not good.

I got between 11mpg and 12mpg pulling 7 x F18's from Long Beach CA to Eustis, FL.

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Posted By: Timbo

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/06/12 03:03 PM

Yeahbut...you had a Tailwind Mike!

And you probably went fast enough to get that trailer planing!

Remember, Karl's also hauling his new custom toy box, wich is bigger than my first dorm room!
Posted By: Timbo

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/06/12 03:04 PM

Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Balls. 10.43mpg on the first tank. Ouch.


How cold is it? Cold air will kill your gas mileage.
Posted By: David Ingram

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/06/12 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Timbo
Yeahbut...you had a Tailwind Mike!

And you probably went fast enough to get that trailer planing!

Remember, Karl's also hauling his new custom toy box, wich is bigger than my first dorm room!


That's 7 HEAVY F18's and Karl is towing 3 light weight F16's. Even with the Cummings it is still a Dodge Karl, you only have yourself to blame.
Posted By: mikekrantz

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/06/12 03:36 PM

65mph and there was a hill or two in between.

Oh yeah and a ditch that we like to never got thru..

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Ford PowerStroke Diesel rocks!!
Posted By: Karl_Brogger

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/06/12 04:05 PM

14mph headwind..... That and I was going a bit faster than I probably should've been. Much over 70 and that thing just gets into the wrong rpm range and the mileage just tanks. Plus I think we've switched to winter fuel up here already. I know gasoline has.

Best I've ever done was 8 cats on one trailer and I pulled just shy of 13mpg. That was with a 24' enclosed though. The windage on these things is just wretched.
Posted By: Karl_Brogger

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/06/12 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by mikekrantz
Ford PowerStroke Diesel rocks!!


I wouldn't go that far.
Posted By: Team_Cat_Fever

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/06/12 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Originally Posted by mikekrantz
Ford PowerStroke Diesel rocks!!


I wouldn't go that far.


I will say that Krantz's Van is about the only road legal Ford I'd consider owning.
Posted By: Karl_Brogger

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/07/12 03:07 AM

11.84mpg, lose the nasty headwind, drop 3mph and things are a bit more reasonable.

Should be there before 2pm. Way earlier if we don't stop for breakfast.
Posted By: Karl_Brogger

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/07/12 03:51 PM

222.3 miles out
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/07/12 08:47 PM

I had a buddy of mine call me from Des Moines asking where the hell the Catamaran guy was going with 3 stacked this time of year (saw you on I35 near Ankeny) and he was not suprised when I knew who it was and where he was going. Good luck at the regatta. Stay dryer than you did in Wisconsin
Posted By: Karl_Brogger

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/08/12 02:21 PM

That is so strange, and proof the world is way too small.
Posted By: Jeff.Dusek

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/08/12 02:45 PM

Good luck to all those who are sailing the event, the snow storm here in Mass last night really made me wish I was joining you!

Anyone want to make predictions?

My top three:
1. Newberry/Casey: Lots of experience and recent time in the boat
2. Easton/Burd: Coming off a top ten at F18 worlds, but forecast looks light for a big team
3. Reiss/Chu: Lots of F16 experience here, and well suited to a light event

Other teams that look super fast:
Ravi Parent/Dalton Tebo: Ravi was impressive in Hyannis, and Dalton is a straight up super crew
Randy Smyth/Joe Bello: Randy is a legend, and Joe is a solid crew coming off a nice worlds
Enrique Figueroa: Another legend, had a nice F18 worlds on a new boat

Edit: I omitted Sarah Streater/Matt Whitehead in my original post... too many good teams to keep track of!

Overall, a great looking field- stoked for the US F16 class!
Posted By: waterbug_wpb

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/08/12 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Timbo

How cold is it? Cold air will kill your gas mileage.


? I would have thought the inverse were true.


Cold air is denser, so you get more hp from burning it (PV=nRT)
Cold air is, well, colder, so you get a greater temperature difference pre- vs. post-combustion

Perhaps pushing a car through colder/denser air requires more force, but I can't see it needing THAT much more force...

I know I could turn better numbers at the track with my old 300ZX TT when it was cold out or I used nitrous in the intercooler (the cold nitrous chilled the rest of the air so I got triple points - nitrous + colder intake air + higher boost pressure from the expanding nitrous).

Now, keeping the dang thing on the pavement was a bigger issue for me (there was some odd electronic rear-wheel "Hicas" steering thingy that kept screwing up. I suspect it was one of the early Stability control things Nissan thought of. That little light blinked more than a discotek on a friday night)
Posted By: mikekrantz

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/08/12 08:54 PM

That Hicas module did it's best to put me into the guardrail.

I took my 300ZX TT into the local speed shop and told them that driving on wet pavement was like driving on ice. It was all I could do to keep it between the lines. They put it up on the body lift, and you could see the rear axle twitching side to side all on it's own.

I had them disable the Hicas, and install a bypass frame into the rear end. Still drives like it's on rails today...
Posted By: Karl_Brogger

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/09/12 12:56 AM

Cold will make more power all the way around.
More oxygen, colder intercooler as well. In some respects more fuel because it has less volume per unit of energy.

but. Your drivetrain is colder as well. Thicker fluids mean more drag. Eventually they come up to temp though.
Posted By: Gilo

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/12/12 05:26 PM

And the results are up - http://www.isailrace.com/Event/Results/be135c8b-08db-46d1-bd93-d2addc7a1012

1. Sarah Newberry and John Casey - Falcon
2. Enrique Figueroa and Carla Malatrasi - Viper
3. Matt and Gina McDonald - Falcon

Congrats all!

Gill
Posted By: brucat

Re: 2012 US F16 National Championship Nov 9 - 11 - 11/13/12 11:00 PM

Wow that might be the tightest point spread I've ever seen four deep at any major regatta. Is there a story?

Mike
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