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Posted By: tshan

R2AK - 06/03/15 03:55 PM

This is not new news, but a topic to post in....

750 mile non-supported race from WA (Washington, USA) to AK (Alaska, USA) starts Thursday (6/4) at 5 am (8 am Eastern). Any vessel that does not have a motor is eligible. Lots of multihulls are entered. Winner gets $10k.

Burds are sponsored by Sperry and sailing an ARC-22 (I think). Waterlust, also a Sperry sponsored group, is following the race and posts some great pictures and videos. The Burd's have already been a part of their focus. Instagram, web and Facebook have a lot of their stuff.

The event web page is www.r2ak.com and has a tracker on the front page.

Anyway, seems like a tough race. It wil be interestig to follow it. A SUP is doing it shocked
Posted By: Karl_Brogger

Re: R2AK - 06/03/15 04:59 PM

I'd think a Reynolds R33 or a ARC30 would be a pretty good weapon of choice. At least with those you could have a crew of four or five and push hard the whole time. Downside to the ARC, there's zero space out of the elements.
Posted By: waterbug_wpb

Re: R2AK - 06/03/15 05:54 PM

I suspect there will be a good amount of paddling, too...

Perhaps an anchor would be good to wait out counter-currents/tides..?
Posted By: tshan

Re: R2AK - 06/03/15 07:36 PM

A lot of time has been spent on tides/currents in the pre-race chatter. Evidently, some "narrows" are impassable when the tide/current is going the wrong way. Could allow boats to catch up or boats to extend leads. Timing is everything.
Posted By: tshan

Re: R2AK - 06/03/15 07:45 PM

I looked at the website and there are a lot of kayaks, dories and rowers. Here are the multihull types:

A F-27, a F-24, two F-25c, 38' Crowther Shockwave, Hobie 20, F85SR (28' Farrier Super Racer), Tiki 21, Nacra 570, custom rower + kite, L-7 trimaran, 19' beach cat (looks like it might be a Supercat) and a 24' custom cat (small cabin and pedal drive) and a ARC-22,
Posted By: Team_Cat_Fever

Re: R2AK - 06/04/15 02:41 AM

Originally Posted by tshan
A lot of time has been spent on tides/currents in the pre-race chatter. Evidently, some "narrows" are impassable when the tide/current is going the wrong way. Could allow boats to catch up or boats to extend leads. Timing is everything.


Seymor narrows. Google it, interesting place and it used to be way worse before they blew up a bunch of granite. I hope there is good footage of the passages through this section.
Posted By: Redtwin

Re: R2AK - 06/04/15 02:54 AM

Seymor Narrows on Youtube

Why doesn't he just drop anchor and wait for the tide to change? All I can think of is all the fuel he is wasting driving around in that current.

Edit to quote Team Cat Fever: "I hope there is good footage of the passages through this section."

+1
Posted By: Team_Cat_Fever

Re: R2AK - 06/04/15 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by Redtwin
Seymor Narrows on Youtube

Why doesn't he just drop anchor and wait for the tide to change? All I can think of is all the fuel he is wasting driving around in that current.

Edit to quote Team Cat Fever: "I hope there is good footage of the passages through this section."

+1


Used to be WAY worse ,here's a cool history lesson of Ripple Rock that was in Seymor narrows.
Posted By: Timbo

Re: R2AK - 06/04/15 02:50 PM

Well that's one way to 'fix it'! Wow! I loved the part about, "They didn't know if it would cause an earthquake...but they did it anyway." Too funny! I've never heard of this place but now I want to go fishing and float plane flying there!
Posted By: waterbug_wpb

Re: R2AK - 06/04/15 03:48 PM

some really neat designs pictured. Certainly brought out some creative mash-ups.

I think my money would be on the lightweight trimaran with the rowing chair/oars...

How much horsepower can a human produce on a bike/propeller setup?

I suspect that may be slightly less than the total work produced from a rowing chair?

And if you're rowing/pedaling you'll be in displacement mode, so weight and waterline would rule supreme I suspect?

Once sailing, windspeed and wave conditions would likely ferret out the top platform...

Given those two criteria, I'd focus on the displacement mode (since that will eat up the most time/distance) but hope for great sailing conditions...
Posted By: mikekrantz

Re: R2AK - 06/04/15 05:01 PM

Downtown Victoria livecam shows FreeBurd and the Shockwave tied up to the dock at the finish. Don't know the order.
Posted By: waterbug_wpb

Re: R2AK - 06/04/15 05:12 PM

This is the qualifier event, correct?

I see a lot of tris have finished or nearby. A few cats, and a Nacra 570 almost done.

Am I to understand correctly that team Y Triamoto is an ORMA 60'? Or did they just put that on their ID to mess with us?

I see on the team page it's a Multi 23 as a "mini ORMA 60"
Posted By: mikekrantz

Re: R2AK - 06/04/15 05:14 PM

Rule 2: Start in Port Townsend
The starting gun goes off at 5 am sharp on June 4, 2015

The first stage of the race is the sprint across the border to Victoria, British Columbia- 40 miles away across the exposed and notoriously rough Strait of Juan de Fuca. We’ll have more of a safety structure in place for the first stage in case things get hairy. The second stage has no race specific safety net.

If you make it to Victoria without assistance then you’ve qualified for the second stage, which starts one day later.

Posted By: waterbug_wpb

Re: R2AK - 06/04/15 05:47 PM

If Captain Stubing and Chuck Norris had a love child- it would be Team Un-Cruise.

The team bio page is hilarious...

Welcome aboard Team Grin, given your track record for making choices we’re more than a little worried you think this race is a good idea.
Posted By: tshan

Re: R2AK - 06/05/15 12:35 AM

Golden Oldies (Shockwave) first to finish, Freeburd next

A gallery of photos:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/6f4tkpky05tic4p/AAB649FMjdOUr5zJ3Yn1zVmsa?dl=0
Posted By: David Ingram

Re: R2AK - 06/05/15 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by mikekrantz
Rule 2: Start in Port Townsend
The starting gun goes off at 5 am sharp on June 4, 2015

The first stage of the race is the sprint across the border to Victoria, British Columbia- 40 miles away across the exposed and notoriously rough Strait of Juan de Fuca. We’ll have more of a safety structure in place for the first stage in case things get hairy. The second stage has no race specific safety net.

If you make it to Victoria without assistance then you’ve qualified for the second stage, which starts one day later.



That's a really good idea kudo's for the organizers.
Posted By: waterbug_wpb

Re: R2AK - 06/05/15 05:09 PM

so you have to finish leg 1 across the bay within 24 hours to both qualify and start leg 2?
Posted By: P.M.

Re: R2AK - 06/07/15 03:26 PM

Nice read written by Bonnie Obremski!
http://www.sailmakersapprentice.com/
Posted By: waterbug_wpb

Re: R2AK - 06/08/15 01:43 PM

Anyone know what happened to FreeBurd? I see they appear to be parked at the beach?

F25 tri seems to be leading for now. Upwind slog it appears... but good 15kt breeze if that indicator is correct.

And Soggy Beavers (that huge paddling canoe) seems to be parked at snake island... Perhaps waiting out a tidal current?

And aren't there a lot of cruise ships running that inside route right now? It's high season for cruising up the inside passage...

If I had the moo-lah, maybe i'd take the cruise ship option and get some pics of everyone's suffering as I went by with a drink in my hand...
Posted By: David Ingram

Re: R2AK - 06/08/15 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Anyone know what happened to FreeBurd? I see they appear to be parked at the beach?



Yo grandpa, like their Facebook page and you'll get their newsfeed. https://www.facebook.com/TeamFreeBurd

I know you think it's gay and all, don't worry your secret is safe with me.

Posted By: tshan

Re: R2AK - 06/08/15 02:37 PM

Posted 51 minutes ago:
"Update from Team Freeburd: "quickly pulling to shore to repair some minor damage from last night. Should be back underway soon." -Tripp"

and 12 hours ago:
"Race update! The Burds started slow in the light breeze but quickly caught back up to the lead pack. We're live tweeting the race over at Twitter.com/waterlust"

[img]https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...179644635ebbf77313830bbf&oe=562F5988[/img]

https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...3a33047cbe4deaa22e5dd76a&oe=55EB5B7F
Posted By: waterbug_wpb

Re: R2AK - 06/08/15 03:28 PM

I forgot, too, they may have been catching a nap, as they are 3 or 4 hours behind EST...
Posted By: waterbug_wpb

Re: R2AK - 06/08/15 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by David Ingram


Yo grandpa, like their Facebook page and you'll get their newsfeed. https://www.facebook.com/TeamFreeBurd

I know you think it's gay and all, don't worry your secret is safe with me.



That Tijuana story dies with me, dude... You can't un-learn those images...
Posted By: tshan

Re: R2AK - 06/08/15 09:10 PM

Two multis have withdrawn: Team Real Thing (L7 tri) and Team Turn Point Designs (custom cat + pedal drive).
Posted By: Jake

Re: R2AK - 06/09/15 01:51 AM

buoy's are showing 14knots of wind but the Burds are only making 3.8knots (similar to every one else). The tide must be coming in....and wow...what a head game to be, presumably, double trapped in 14 knots of breeze while making less than 4 knots of SOG....as the sun has probably disappeared over the peak between you and the ocean and night starts to fall.

At least it's relatively warm at ~68 degrees for the time being.

Part of me is extremely jealous...another part of me happy to be sitting behind my computer.
Posted By: tshan

Re: R2AK - 06/09/15 11:37 AM

The F25c Team Elsie Piddock has really run away with it, so far. Obviously a breakdown or something could change that, but they have a big led for now. I watched the tracker replay and they took the same route as many other boats, but they just did it better. I wonder what their secret is (they are a local boat with a crew that is extremely experienced)?

Crew list:
Former USCG Officer
2 X Annapolis Newport- Bermuda Race
3 X Singlehanded Transpac
3X Pacific Cup
5X Hawaii to Seattle delivery
6X Van Isle 360
Posted By: Jake

Re: R2AK - 06/09/15 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by tshan
The F25c Team Elsie Piddock has really run away with it, so far. Obviously a breakdown or something could change that, but they have a big led for now. I watched the tracker replay and they took the same route as many other boats, but they just did it better. I wonder what their secret is (they are a local boat with a crew that is extremely experienced)?

Crew list:
Former USCG Officer
2 X Annapolis Newport- Bermuda Race
3 X Singlehanded Transpac
3X Pacific Cup
5X Hawaii to Seattle delivery
6X Van Isle 360



That is quite a crew list! It doesn't take much more speed in that kind of current to make a huge difference and hit a different current window (which Alan and I can attest to in the 2014 Everglades Challenge).

We were about 1 to 1.5 hours behind randy entering the entrance to Chockoloskee - he barely made the current cuttoff and we didn't. We left Chockoloskee about 5.5 hours behind him and he caught a more favorable wind headed south and continued to stretch away. Same thing with the guys behind us...while we sat their stalled trying to get through the current, it allowed them to catch up to us.
Posted By: waterbug_wpb

Re: R2AK - 06/09/15 02:01 PM

And that F25c is probably just the right size... fast, light and small enough to row if need be. I think it's modded quite a bit, too, with lots of extra cloth.

But yes, those dudes could probably make a concrete paver fast...
Posted By: Jake

Re: R2AK - 06/10/15 01:17 PM

Any news from freeburd? I don't have the facebook feed and am at work. They look like they're docked.

edit: it looks like everyone else around them is on a beach too...so either still sleeping or waiting for the tide to turn.
Posted By: David Ingram

Re: R2AK - 06/10/15 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Jake
Any news from freeburd? I don't have the facebook feed and am at work. They look like they're docked.

edit: it looks like everyone else around them is on a beach too...so either still sleeping or waiting for the tide to turn.


Here you go Jake:

Team Freeburd arrived in Campbell River! Resting up and fixing gear before they shoot the narrows! #r2ak #sperry

Dude, you need to check out the smart phones, they are nifty.
Posted By: Jake

Re: R2AK - 06/10/15 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by Jake
Any news from freeburd? I don't have the facebook feed and am at work. They look like they're docked.

edit: it looks like everyone else around them is on a beach too...so either still sleeping or waiting for the tide to turn.


Here you go Jake:

Team Freeburd arrived in Campbell River! Resting up and fixing gear before they shoot the narrows! #r2ak #sperry

Dude, you need to check out the smart phones, they are nifty.


Yeah, Yeah...I'm really starting to get grampy about smart phones. I hate mine. It's buggy, crashtastic, and it makes me feel stupid. I don't have time (or patience) to wipe and start over like it needs. Toss in some ~wonderful~ device management software added by my employer and it makes it even less usable.


Thanks for the update.
Posted By: waterbug_wpb

Re: R2AK - 06/10/15 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by Jake
Any news from freeburd? I don't have the facebook feed and am at work. They look like they're docked.

edit: it looks like everyone else around them is on a beach too...so either still sleeping or waiting for the tide to turn.


Here you go Jake:

Team Freeburd arrived in Campbell River! Resting up and fixing gear before they shoot the narrows! #r2ak #sperry

Dude, you need to check out the smart phones, they are nifty.


Yeah, Yeah...I'm really starting to get grampy about smart phones. I hate mine.


Flip phones rock...
Posted By: David Ingram

Re: R2AK - 06/10/15 07:23 PM

Yesterdays update:

http://r2ak.com/daily-updates-2/june-9/
Posted By: David Ingram

Re: R2AK - 06/10/15 09:00 PM

The blog is pretty interesting:

http://smallcraftadvisor.com/our-blog/?p=4426
Posted By: Jake

Re: R2AK - 06/11/15 02:48 AM

that looks like one bad a$$ race.
Posted By: waterbug_wpb

Re: R2AK - 06/11/15 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by Jake
that looks like one bad a$$ race.


so, you're kicking yourself for not participating? good on ya!

cold, choppy, challenging... great to watch from my warm desk chair.
Posted By: Jake

Re: R2AK - 06/11/15 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Originally Posted by Jake
that looks like one bad a$$ race.


so, you're kicking yourself for not participating? good on ya!

cold, choppy, challenging... great to watch from my warm desk chair.


Looked at it - had some possible boat options...the logistics and time needed away from work made it hard to keep considering. It would be hard to do that without more than two weeks of time. That's a long way from South Cackalackie.

The landscape and conditions just look incredible.
Posted By: waterbug_wpb

Re: R2AK - 06/11/15 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by Jake
The landscape and conditions just look incredible.


+1. I did that route once.... on a cruise ship. Definitely the way to go, but I didn't win $10,000....
Posted By: Jake

Re: R2AK - 06/12/15 07:01 PM

Looks like Piddick is about 8 to 10 miles from the finish.
Posted By: F-18 5150

Re: R2AK - 06/12/15 11:51 PM

I was an optional crew on Nice Pair. Guess they didn't need me.
Posted By: Jake

Re: R2AK - 06/16/15 11:34 AM

and we have a race! It looks like Team Freeburd overtook the Warrior 29 and the F32 trimaran last night and are running in fourth place with roughly 110 miles to go.
Posted By: David Ingram

Re: R2AK - 06/16/15 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by Jake
and we have a race! It looks like Team Freeburd overtook the Warrior 29 and the F32 trimaran last night and are running in fourth place with roughly 110 miles to go.


And it looks like they are pulling all nighters.
Posted By: Jake

Re: R2AK - 06/16/15 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by Jake
and we have a race! It looks like Team Freeburd overtook the Warrior 29 and the F32 trimaran last night and are running in fourth place with roughly 110 miles to go.


And it looks like they are pulling all nighters.


Racing boats in sight will do that to you. It's a game of sleep chicken. Sun is probably up now and they look like they're stretching away. They will probably finish today.
Posted By: waterbug_wpb

Re: R2AK - 06/16/15 03:44 PM

what's the WX? ideal conditions for Freeburd?
Posted By: waterbug_wpb

Re: R2AK - 06/16/15 03:54 PM

A quick post from the crew of Elsie Piddock on some of the "critical elements of success"

Peter, the most critical was the boat, credit to Ian {designer of the F-25C} for the design and Colorado Composites and Jude Stoeller for the build. Elsie Piddock is extremely solid and light. We spent a lot of time on preparing the boat, new standing rigging, running rigging, deck hardware, sealing hatches, building spare cassette and rudder. We should have spent more time sailing the boat but sometimes that is how it goes. The crew have a lot of monohull experience in those waters so that was not an issue. Critical decisions in the race were made on the fly, but most crucial I believe was stopping just before entering Johnstone Straits. It allowed us to be well rested, alert and basically mistake free for the next taxing 24 hrs.
Rowing was done with two oarlocks mounted on the amas and large sweep.oars from a racing shell. We could maintain 2.5 knots for about 4 hrs. There were no sliding seats, we just sat on the netting. We thought weight and simplicity were key. Al
Posted By: Jake

Re: R2AK - 06/16/15 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
what's the WX? ideal conditions for Freeburd?


7 knots and 8 knots of wind reported at the two buoy stations nearest them. Looks like Team UnCruise has been going in circles for a couple of hours so they either have a problem or no wind (which, technically, would qualify as a problem I suppose). Freeburd has been making over 7 knots all morning since I've been checking...up to around 10 knots now...so I'm guessing they have a secondary sail up and driving.
Posted By: tshan

Re: R2AK - 08/14/15 04:38 PM

Waterlust, Sperry and GoPro have their video out about the Burd's experience in the R2AK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EMET5lC90s
Posted By: Jake

Re: R2AK - 08/17/15 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by tshan
Waterlust, Sperry and GoPro have their video out about the Burd's experience in the R2AK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EMET5lC90s


wow, cool. That looks like a great watch. I'll dial that up on the big screen later.
Posted By: David Ingram

Re: R2AK - 08/18/15 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by tshan
Waterlust, Sperry and GoPro have their video out about the Burd's experience in the R2AK:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EMET5lC90s


wow, cool. That looks like a great watch. I'll dial that up on the big screen later.


It was well produced, I liked it.
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