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Jib Sheets on a Tornado

Posted By: Chris_A

Jib Sheets on a Tornado - 07/26/04 04:27 AM

Hello everyone, I have a 78 Sailcraft of Canada Tornado and I am not happy with Barber-Hauler setup for this boat. I do not like the steel wire going port-starboard about 3 feet aft of the front cross beam, and cannot trim the sail without a great effort. Does anyone have pictures of their setup, maybe I have mine wrong. I don't race in regattas so "rules" are not a concern. I have seem some pics threading lines under the tramp but none show enough detail. Thanks in advance for any help offered. Chris in Alberta Canada.
Posted By: Tornado

Re: Jib Sheets on a Tornado - 07/28/04 09:04 PM

Sounds like you've not threaded the jib 2:1 purchase correctly around the hexaratchet block. The wire line is called the "horse" and has nothing to do with the barberhauler (the line running into the forebeam from a small block around the jib sheet line). The horse cable allows you to place the sheeting (hexarachet) block fore/aft to change the angle the sail is pulled at, tensioning/easing the leech/foot of the sail to suit conditions.

See my classic tornado rigging gallery at:

Classic Rig



Posted By: Chris_A

Re: Jib Sheets on a Tornado - 07/30/04 06:23 AM

Great pictures! Yup I have my lines snafu'd I'll re-rig and try it out. Thanks for your time and the effort to get these on line.
Posted By: Tornado

Re: Jib Sheets on a Tornado - 07/30/04 05:17 PM

You're very welcome Chris! Nice to see a new Tboat owner getting setup.

BTW, we have a Tornado-specific forum going on Yahoo at:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TornadoCat/

Stop by and post some questions...

Mike.
Posted By: CatRon

Re: Jib Sheets on a Tornado - 05/24/06 06:15 PM

Full Tilt,

I've recently purchased a Tornado and am dicking around with the rigging. It's barberhauler is not set up through the front beam like I've seen on other boats.

Question
If I follow the barberhauler from the starboard side, it starts on a block/becket on the jib sheet, travels into the front beam on the starboard side - how, where.

Through the beam to the port side, exits front beam - how, where - and through a jam cleat.

Any help would be appreciated. Looking for ideas - both new and tried 'n true

CatRon
Posted By: Tornado

Re: Jib Sheets on a Tornado - 05/24/06 09:21 PM

From my Classic Rig up this thread:

Barberhauler attached to jib sheet is the blue w. white fleck ending in a block w. becket...line runs out of shot to the right...:
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...and into front beam at an opening near the outer gunwale. This opening has an exit block inside the beam, and a camcleat on a bracket outside the beam:

[Linked Image]

Then the line exits on the other side through a similar arrangement, ending at another block w. becket on the jib sheet.

You can now haul in the barberhauler from the opposite (ie. windward) side of the boat, causing the jib sheeting point to move forward & outboard on the leeward side.

Mike.
Posted By: CatRon

Re: Jib Sheets on a Tornado - 05/25/06 11:52 AM

Thanks!!!
Posted By: Catius

Re: Jib Sheets on a Tornado - 05/25/06 02:09 PM

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You can now haul in the barberhauler from the opposite (ie. windward) side of the boat, causing the jib sheeting point to move forward & outboard on the leeward side.

Mike.


Mike - I think I have a similar setup on my Mystere. What I struggle with is that if you shorten the barberhauler on one side, you are making it longer on the other side. So at the next tack / gybe, you have to adjust again, the opposite way, right?
And if you don't uncleat before the tack/gybe, you'll have to get the crew to crawl to the leeward side to uncleat the barberhauler so you can pull it in...
At least that's what I've understood of the system so far...I may be missing a few pieces of the workings here. Comments?
Posted By: waterbug_wpb

Re: Jib Sheets on a Tornado - 05/25/06 03:30 PM

How critical is the barberhauler on these boats?
Posted By: Tornado

Re: Jib Sheets on a Tornado - 05/25/06 04:10 PM

You've understood it perfectly...it does take some forethought prior to throwing the gybes. Never struck me as a problem...since I grew on on these boats and it became second nature.
Now I sail the modern rig with spinny/self-tending jib and have not had to think about the 'hauler' again unitl I saw this post...



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You can now haul in the barberhauler from the opposite (ie. windward) side of the boat, causing the jib sheeting point to move forward & outboard on the leeward side.

Mike.


Mike - I think I have a similar setup on my Mystere. What I struggle with is that if you shorten the barberhauler on one side, you are making it longer on the other side. So at the next tack / gybe, you have to adjust again, the opposite way, right?
And if you don't uncleat before the tack/gybe, you'll have to get the crew to crawl to the leeward side to uncleat the barberhauler so you can pull it in...
At least that's what I've understood of the system so far...I may be missing a few pieces of the workings here. Comments?
Posted By: Tornado

Re: Jib Sheets on a Tornado - 05/25/06 04:11 PM

THe 'hauler' was very important for racing to get the jib clew outboard & forward off-wind. Really opened up the slot and prevented backwinding. Not necessary for pleasure-sailing.

Mike.

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How critical is the barberhauler on these boats?
Posted By: Tornado

Re: Jib Sheets on a Tornado - 05/25/06 04:14 PM

Hey Chris & CatRon,

You both should join the Tornadocat forum over on the Yahoo Groups...we've got ~200 members and there's lots of photos, advice topics etc. specifically on Tboats.

TornadoCat
Posted By: _flatlander_

Re: Jib Sheets on a Tornado - 05/25/06 05:18 PM

Not that I don't enjoy reading/learning about T's and all the other cats in the open forum...why not a Tornado Forum at CatSailor?
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