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Round Texel live coverage via internet

Posted By: Wouter

Round Texel live coverage via internet - 06/17/06 05:58 AM



Round Texel 2006 starts in less then 4 hours. (about 12:00 local time = 10:00 UTC or GMT)

Also this year the race can be followed live on the Internet :

http://www.roundtexel.com/default2.asp?pid=13

Have fun !

Wouter
Posted By: Phile

Re: Round Texel live coverage via internet - 06/17/06 01:06 PM

How did you go Wouts?
Posted By: Hakan Frojdh

EXCELLENT coverage!!!!! - 06/17/06 01:18 PM

The sailors and organisers in Netherlands knows how to show a catsailing on the internet, live video from several cams including cams from boats, good work!!!

Marstrom is still in second place!!

/håkan
Posted By: Hakan Frojdh

M20, first and second!!!!!! - 06/17/06 01:23 PM

Marstrom (SWE) first over the line closely followed by Mattson (SWE), both on M20.

/hakan
Posted By: Rolf_Nilsen

Re: M20, first and second!!!!!! - 06/17/06 01:39 PM

The coverage was amazing! Live cam all the way around. Hope some of the highlights are saved and made into a video.

Who was sailing the second M20 with Kristian, his girlfriend?
Posted By: Hakan Frojdh

Re: M20, first and second!!!!!! - 06/17/06 01:48 PM

Kristian was sailing with his girlfriend.

/håkan
Posted By: Rolf_Nilsen

Re: M20, first and second!!!!!! - 06/17/06 01:59 PM

That is amazing. I noticed that she was helming while Kristian did all the trimming.

Results service was excellent as well. And having the video feed full-screen at decent resolution all the time, just fantastic. Next thing is full-time tracking of all boats I suppose <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: fin.

Re: M20, first and second!!!!!! - 06/17/06 02:13 PM

FANTASTIC! Just tuned in in time for the finish and trophy presentation! That girl is very attractive and a hell of a sailor!

I'm so envious, nothing like this in the USA! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: TEAMVMG

Re: Round Texel live coverage via internet - 06/17/06 02:16 PM

fantastic coverage.
i was supposed to doing jobs at home but watched texel for the afternoon
Posted By: Wouter

Look here a prindle 15 is overall second ! - 06/17/06 10:55 PM


Look here a prindle 15 is overall second !

In these conditions WOW !

I know Hans Primowees is excellent on his P15, he always was but this is just amazing. What an achievement !

Wouter
Posted By: Timbo

Re: Look here a prindle 15 is overall second ! - 06/18/06 12:23 AM

Check out the elapsed times. Pretty interesting. How far is it?
Posted By: Brian_Mc

Couldn't get any Video - 06/18/06 01:50 AM

Calling all Geeks: I have a fairly new Dell computer that doesn't play many online videos. I get the message: "Additional Plugin Needed". I have Windows media player, Quicktime, Real Player, and whatever waas recomended last time I brought this up. I can't play the vids, and can't get the "Additional Plugin" either! What's wrong? Thanks, Brian
Posted By: Catius

Re: M20, first and second!!!!!! - 06/18/06 01:56 AM

Just saw some recorded footage...I am just blown away by the level of professionalism in organizing this race

You can tell sailing is something that really lives in the hearts and minds of the Dutch people...Something to be very proud of.
Posted By: hobie1616

Re: Couldn't get any Video - 06/18/06 02:50 AM

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I can't play the vids, and can't get the "Additional Plugin" either! What's wrong? Thanks, Brian
You might need Flash Player and/or Shockwave.
Posted By: Wouter

Re: Look here a prindle 15 is overall second ! - 06/18/06 06:24 AM



I think it is 85 kg round. The weather was lightist this year.

Wouter
Posted By: Blueblast

Re: Look here a prindle 15 is overall second ! - 06/18/06 06:37 AM

Hans his prindle is 25 years old.
Hans is even older.
http://www.primowees.nl/1223351.htm
Posted By: Rolf_Nilsen

Re: Look here a prindle 15 is overall second ! - 06/18/06 06:43 AM

The coverage at least made me want to go there. But not with the Tornado (too high rating). Wouter and Tony, if I come down all the way from Norway, will you do the race?
85km sounds like a nice distance, if there is wind.. Has it ever been cancelled or shortened?


Brian: Your problem might have several causes. The first thing to do is install Firefox and VLC (Maughan, watch the blood pressure) <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
When you come to a page with a video that will not play, the error message is usually clear at the top of the browser window. I find it easier to isolate errors in Firefox than IE..
http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Look here a prindle 15 is overall second ! - 06/18/06 07:05 AM

All the P15-s did fine! Overall place 2, 16 and 17. How about that? I regret I did'nt go!
Arend
Prindle 15
555
Posted By: Wouter

Re: Look here a prindle 15 is overall second ! - 06/18/06 08:25 AM



I think I will reconsider doing texel in a few years time.

Wouter
Posted By: Wouter

Texel 2006 Nigel Pitt and Alex Shafer - 06/18/06 08:30 AM


Texel 2006 Nigel Pitt and Alex Shafer sailing a Nacra 20 One-design (US mainsail) finished 53th at 4:29:49 (corrected = 4:44:01)

Wouter
Posted By: Wouter

Press release winners (translated by babelfish) - 06/18/06 08:39 AM

Texel, Saturday 17 June 2006 Remco Kenbeek and Paul brouwer became with their F18 Capricorn the overall winners of the 29ste Zwitserleven round for texel. Announced in a packed up tent and Chris Zegers, names the Dutch on Saturday night 17 June 2006 their prices in reception. Their projection proved to be only forty seconden on Hans Primowees, which solo with 26-jaar old Prindle 15 the waddeneiland rounded off.

F18-wereldkampioenen hover Bundock and Glenn Ashby (OWS) finished place on the third. The variable need northwest wind made of it a cumbersome race, which was accomplished by 396 catamarans. "we sail five years together and he the best crew which I ever have have been had", said to Kenbeek on the podium concerning its half-measure Paul brouwer. The men stood the previous years already more often on the podium of the Zwitserleven round for texel, but never on the highest trede. To hover Bundock stood already sometimes, but were today badly gone there. Bundock: We had clear ourselves gone forward. When the wind on the wad after Vc-boei were omitted, we let us pass through under many boats. We lay almost in first position overall and even even for Remco. He got the bries only earlier than we and afterwards he had left. In the rak to Oudeschild it became just as bladstil. There seemed sit a bries on sea, therefore many teams applauded there naartoe. Then the wind under the side and sheaves came set up the catamarans as a result, under the rest of the fleet. This way gambled team Zwitserleven Booth/Dercksen, but also Carolijn brouwer and Sebbe Godefroid the chance on line honours.

"old junk" whereas the booty seemed be, Hans Primowees went out beverwijk district from nothing almost vandoor. By the luidspreker was hear that he was removed after 5:23:20 hours seconden still some of the triumph. Its woman shouted Liesbeth as from the range which he had go by. On the line it seemed even that Primowees were the winner, but he nevertheless appeared come converted forty seconden shortage. Primowees: I have had ordinary luck. It a strange day with strange wind was. On the wad I have caught up with certain two - or three hundred cats, which went all to sea. At the first gate the solozeiler fell still overboard: "I had suncream to my hand, therefore I slipped then I on the fuselage supported."

To be Second place call overall is not only onverwachts, but also remarkable. Primowees sailed, as it happens, with one 26-jaar old Prindle 15 and with twelve years old sail. He paid a long time ago two thousand guilders. Primowees: "and I have a dent in my mast, as a result of which rotates badly that." Liesbeth Primowees did not keep dry it at night at the distribution: It is this way beautiful. Not sponsored and with its own old junk. Really foolish.

To hover Bundock were possible there, however, to laugh that he had let the Prindle go 15-zeiler for: That is ordinary cool. I have in former days also sailed on Prindle.

Top five end results Zwitserleven round for texel 2006:

1. Kenbeek/brouwer (NED), F18, 4:13:58 hours corrected time
2. Primowees (NED), Prindle 15, 4:14:36 hours corrected time
3. Bundock/Ashby (OWS), F18, 4:15:39 hours corrected time
4. Huntelman/time
5. Heemskerk corrected of of the camp, F18, 4:18:46 hours/the farmer, F18, 4:19:06 hours corrected time



I guess we'll all runout and buy Prindle 15's now !
Posted By: grob

Re: Look here a prindle 15 is overall second ! - 06/18/06 09:38 AM

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Has it ever been cancelled or shortened?


I know it was cancelled in 2000, as I had made the trip from the UK, two ferry journeys and a whole heap of fuel towing my H16, only to have it cancelled on the morning of the event <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

There was a big group of us from my sailing club so we still had a good time, its just a shame we didn't get to sail. To be honest if you like cats its worth going just for the atmosphere.

Gareth
Posted By: dartfast

Where are the full results posted ? - 06/18/06 10:52 AM

During the race everything came in great with results coming in as soon as they occurred. After the first 46 finishers I had to go to the beach, Dunedin Florida, to watch the first of the 8 new F-18 Capricorns that arrived in the container at Clerawater FL on Friday hit the water. Now I can not find the link to the results corrected/elapsed results with boat type. The video starts at the beginning of the race and the results don't come up. Any hints?
Posted By: alutz

Re: Where are the full results posted ? - 06/18/06 07:05 PM

Pipo the only 18HT in Texel finsihed in 48th position!

Not to bad for a firsttimer, eh :-)

:just joking
he can be very agressiv at the start!
Posted By: HobieZealot

Re: Where are the full results posted ? - 06/19/06 03:11 PM

How many F-16s raced?
Posted By: Wouter

Re: Where are the full results posted ? - 06/19/06 07:41 PM



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How many F-16s raced?



None, as far as I can determine.

Wouter
Posted By: Simon

Re: Where are the full results posted ? - 06/19/06 08:36 PM

... apart from the Spitfire, which came in at 16th overall. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Wouter

Re: Where are the full results posted ? - 06/19/06 08:44 PM



I'm always conservative in naming the Spitfire boats as F16's in situations like these, because I can guess what kind of reply that will get.

But indeed the Spitfire did very well. It also came in before the A-cats (elapsed time) !

Well done

Wouter
Posted By: Boomer

Re: Where are the full results posted ? - 06/20/06 08:59 AM

Well. nice sailing job from Hans Primowees. Sailed last years against him on a HC16 in the Texel Dutch Open in the week prior to Round Texel and always lost.

This year in the first match of the Texel Dutch open we pitchpoled with our Hobie Tiger F18 in high waves and I injured my hand. My helm nevertheless could sail Round Texel with another guy. Especially the part between the Lighthouse and Oudeschild was tricky. Boats just floating around in a no-wind zone for almost an hour !
I think that's also a reason for Hans being in the top at the end. The complete field of 430 cats (considerably less than 2005) regrouped after the Lighthouse.

Must admit : the organisation is very well, somewhat commercial for spectators but ok ! And there is a very friendly atmosphere at all the gates. Loads of spectators cheering for the sailors (even the last boat) when passing.
A little bit like the New York marathon.

Maarten
NED1455
Posted By: HobieZealot

Re: Where are the full results posted ? - 06/20/06 11:56 AM


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I'm always conservative in naming the Spitfire boats as F16's in situations like these, because I can guess what kind of reply that will get.

But indeed the Spitfire did very well. It also came in before the A-cats (elapsed time) !

Well done

Wouter


Indeed
From the class rules:
The design and development of the Spitfire catamaran is directed towards strict onedesign
classes where the true test is between sailors and sailing skill, and not boats.
Posted By: Wouter

Re: Where are the full results posted ? - 06/20/06 12:03 PM


Yep, that is the predictable reply I meant.

Next time I meet up with Bundock and Ashby I tell them that it was the boat that won their F18, A-cat and Tornado races and not their sailing skills.

Wouter
Posted By: claus

Re: Where are the full results posted ? - 06/20/06 01:28 PM

Next time I meet Booth and Derksen, I'll ask them about their recent poor sailing skills <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: PpS

Re: Where are the full results posted ? - 06/20/06 01:41 PM

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Yep, that is the predictable reply I meant.

Next time I meet up with Bundock and Ashby I tell them that it was the boat that won their F18, A-cat and Tornado races and not their sailing skills.

Wouter


Coming from a hack like you I'm sure their egos will be severely bruised.
Posted By: Boomer

Re: Where are the full results posted ? - 06/20/06 03:38 PM

Well guys, haven't seen Booth & Dercksen after their race (which started troublesome for them), but at the Hobie-stand in the Pit-Lane we had a laugh, lots of beer and burgers with the wizards from Oz.
So sign in for the next RT on the 23th of june 2007 and lets get that number of boats back to > 600
Posted By: Mark Schneider

Re: Where are the full results posted ? - 06/20/06 06:51 PM

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I'm always conservative in naming the Spitfire boats as F16's in situations like these, because I can guess what kind of reply that will get.

But indeed the Spitfire did very well. It also came in before the A-cats (elapsed time) !

Well done

Wouter


Indeed
From the class rules:
The design and development of the Spitfire catamaran is directed towards strict onedesign
classes where the true test is between sailors and sailing skill, and not boats.


Always stirring the pot huh…


If he had 10 spitfires to race… he would count his results as a one design. But he doesn’t… he is one of a few in a 500 boat race.

How could he possibly have fun without his one design class around him?…

Well.

Now… If he had an additional 10 F16’s to race… he would count his score up to 20 in F16’s

Since he rates about the same as the F18’s… he would certainly count his score up to 200 or so…

And he damn well wants to know how he finished out of the huge fleet on handicap.


But… that’s no different then scoring your self among the Hobie Tigers (presuming you follow the F18 rules on sail and weight) and then out of the F18 class followed by the level rated class (F18 and F16).

Or you could score US built Hobie 16’s and French built Hobie 16’s in the Hobie 16 class.. haven’t you heard… there is a difference between them (grin)… (Still not sure how you score the the Hobie 16 with Spin that the Youth and Women are now racing internationally) (grin)

If people just raced with your one design philosophy … you would not have Texel. Look at texel… they start 500 boats together…. Everyone is racing everyone…. Then they break it down… (hell, you can break it down till you get to the “class” US built Hobie 16’s)
Posted By: Dermot

Re: Where are the full results posted ? - 06/20/06 07:32 PM

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Yep, that is the predictable reply I meant.

Next time I meet up with Bundock and Ashby I tell them that it was the boat that won their F18, A-cat and Tornado races and not their sailing skills.

Wouter


Coming from a hack like you I'm sure their egos will be severely bruised.

(Some of (edit))The A-Cats are really intimidated by the F-16s aren't they <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I will have a Stealth owner crewing for me next weekend - I am sure we will have fun and a great Event - we are both catamaran sailors <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.
Posted By: Wouter

Re: Where are the full results posted ? - 06/21/06 04:56 AM


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(Some of (edit))The A-Cats are really intimidated by the F-16s aren't they


Ahhh, not all of them, but some of them yes.

Wouter
Posted By: wirebound

Re: Where are the full results posted ? - 06/21/06 06:42 AM

And some Spitfires are really intimidated by the F18's, Aren't they!! Even with their extra rating points, they find it hard to get the F18's
Posted By: Dermot

Re: Where are the full results posted ? - 06/21/06 10:03 AM

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And some Spitfires are really intimidated by the F18's, Aren't they!! Even with their extra rating points, they find it hard to get the F18's

I think that you missed my point <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Which is, that some A-Cat sailors are afraid that they will loose sailors from their class to the F16 class. They are so intimidated that they resort to calling other sailors "Hacks" on public forums !

If sailors get upset and intimidated because they cannot win races, then maybe, they should not be racing.
I may be upset if I do not sail well. But not because someone else beat me.
Posted By: wirebound

Re: Where are the full results posted ? - 06/21/06 10:36 AM

Mate, what are you smoking, Where are "Hacks"? sounds like you have a few issues with them? did they hurt your feelings? or maybe it's because SCHRS is reworking the rule and the extra two free points you have maybe taken away? (Ask Wouter he explained it a while back) <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Dermot

Re: Where are the full results posted ? - 06/21/06 11:15 AM

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Mate, what are you smoking, Where are "Hacks"? sounds like you have a few issues with them? did they hurt your feelings? or maybe it's because SCHRS is reworking the rule and the extra two free points you have maybe taken away? (Ask Wouter he explained it a while back) <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


I had actually forgotten who you were until I checked "Show all users posts" in your profile.
Now I understand why you are upset <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

By the way, Wouter was called a hack in this thread - you should read all posts before answering.
Posted By: wirebound

We are sooooo off the subject! - 06/21/06 12:20 PM

Mate, I'm not upset, good angle with trying to turn it around, I give you ten points for that one. Yes I did have a problem with SCHRS as did a load of other people, but the good news is that it worked, they are making changes to fix the loop holes. With regards to the A class it's just in the radar at the moment, everybody taking a quick jab at it, a few years back it was us in the F18's, it will be the F16 turn soon ( don't get me wrong, it's a great boat with a great class behind it).

I think Wouter can take care of himself, he's a big boy now!
Posted By: wirebound

What happened to Booth - 06/21/06 02:44 PM

How did the all carbon Fox do? was it quick?
Posted By: Rolf_Nilsen

Re: What happened to Booth - 06/21/06 05:25 PM

4th over the line I think, beaten by the M20's and a carbon Eagle 20? Live coverage showed Mitch shrugging while dragging the boat up the beach, like it was happenstance who was first over <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Wouter

Re: We are sooooo off the subject! - 06/21/06 05:49 PM



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... it will be the F16 turn soon ...



I would actually consider that to be a honour.

Imagine this; sailors bitching about the fact that 16 foot design is rating too slow when sailing off the F18/A-cat rating !

When that happens, I know for sure that the F16 mission has been accomplished ! =)

Wouter
Posted By: Wouter

Re: What happened to Booth - 06/21/06 05:57 PM



Booth/Derksen on the Hobie Fox concept were 7th across the line, leading the first F18 of Kenbeek/Brouwer by only 38 seconds after over 4 hours of racing.

In front of them finished

M20
M20
Eagle 20 XXl (This most be the 14th version of this design, I lost track)
M20 GTI (apparently a different version of the M20)
Tornado
Eagle 20 Sk 2006 (version 15 ! Keep counting !)

Wouter
Posted By: Rolf_Nilsen

Re: What happened to Booth - 06/22/06 04:46 AM

Yes, you are right Wouter.

I was watching the coverage, and counted Booth/Dereksen as #4. Checking the results, I see that they was indeed seventh across the line. Must be fun having a carbon flyer, and be beaten across the line by a Tornado while F-18s are breathing down your neck <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Was the leaders ever becalmed, letting the boats behind catch up?

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Posted By: TornadoGBR413

Re: What happened to Booth - 06/22/06 06:01 AM

Leaders Becalmed too right, we all sat just after VC in a big hole for about 1/2 hour and watched the fleet roll into the back of us then the wind filled in from the texel side, we stayed middleish, the big winners were inshore of us and booth had headed offshore for more breeze and got spanked as he got the new wind last !!
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