Hobie 21 formula

Anyone heard of the Hobie 21 formula?
It is supposed to be an old, but at the time (early 90s) extremely fast cat with a carbon mast and "the whole package". Supposedly only made a hand ful of them, as they were too expensive for the Average Joe. Devoloped and produced by Hobie France. If anyone has any information and pics let me know!

cheers

The only Hobie 21 I can find is the sports cruiser.
See http://www.fastlanesailing.com/hobie21.html
But Hobie 21 does not by todays standards classify as "extremely fast cat wit a carbon mast and the whole package".
Could it be a prototype of the Hobie FOX (F20)?

Stein

There was the 21 SE that was used for some competitive (televised?) racing circuit. It was basically a scaled up H17 with wings and a jib and I think a spinnaker. Although I do not think it came with a carbon stick.

They are rare these days.

Hi dad!
It is not the Hobie 21 "sports" cruiser I'm thinking of.
Come to think of it, I think only the hulls were carbon, the rig is alloy I think. I googled the hobie 21 SE and it is not the boat I was thinking of as the H 21 formula has a scaled down cross beam between its bows to maintain stiffness (N6.0 style). Check out the Texel ratings, the Hobie 21 formula has the same rating as the M20! There has to be someone who has heard of this beast!?

the hobie 21 formula was made by hobie cat europe. i had spec sheets with pics, dont know if i still do. it weighed less than our standard 21, hulls were kevlar, used dagerboards instead of centerboards and had no wings. i looked into buying one but with the exchange rate and shipping the coast was too high.

There is one in our club,







The spi system is custom.

So I guess you have seen it sailing? Is it really as fast as the Texel rating indicates?

Would have been great if anyone had any specs on the boat!

Yes, I have seen it sailing. I think it is fast, but not as fast as the TR (92) indicates.

That looks like a 21 SE, which is not what the 21 formula apparently is.

That custom spinnaker system needs a shorter halyard :P

Probably you are right, I'm really not sure.




Based on the last picture we should open a new "how not sail a cat" topic... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Found the specs of the boat:

-Length: 6,50 m
- beam: 3,20 m
- beam with wings: 4,50 m
- crew: 2-4 personer
- main: 21,28 m2, Mylar/dacron
- jib: 7,98 m2, Dacron triradial
- chute: 27,5 m2, Dacron triradial
- Mast: 10,06 m
- weight: 285 kg
- Designer: Hobie Cat Design Team

Far, Fredik heter kompisen min som eier båten. Han er fra Bergen og går på kullet mitt. Han jeg henger klart mest med her oppe.

Sier du nå at du har funnet en flerskrogsbåt å seile i Trondhjem? I så fall må du invitere ham og båt til Nordenfjeldske seileruke i Molde neste sommer.

I have a magazine article of the old 'Pro Sail' Hobie 21 racing somewhere. Will see if I can find it and scan.

H21 with wings, 2 x Trap and Spinnaker launched from a tramp bag.

Hei Rolf!
Hehe, nei dessverre ligger båten til Fredrik igjen i Bergen. Nettopp det at den er så bred gjør den vanskelig å flytte rundt.
Men vi har snakket en del om å få seilt litt til neste sommer, så vet ikke riktig åssen det blir. Noe må vi alle fall få til.
Ellers så ser både Fredrik og jeg fram til du kommer opp med Bladen din i håp om å få vært med en gang eller to. Regattaer med Marin teks 37 fot lange Hanse dekker ikke akkurat bohovet for å seile fort vi har..!
Uansett er det gøy å se at det finnes flere beach cats i Norge enn jeg hadde forventet. Men, får fortsette mattelesingen, sitter på lesesalen på NTNU:)

Demonter den og putt den på en standard henger. Det går helt fint. Ring meg på 91317903 for tips. Er ikke mening i å ha en slik båt liggende i Bergen mens eieren er i Trondhjem. Lykke til med matematikken, si fra når du kommer til Navier-Stokes ligninger <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
PS: OpenFOAM ser lovende ut for oss som ikke har råd til FLUENT..


T_A: Great pictures! Those kites looks like a handful, and not really fast either.

The Stockholm dealer has sold one of the last produced Hobie 21 Formula. The first (and so far only) owner specified it with bolt-on wings and a Hobie Bob at the top of the mast. When new I took one picture of it, which can be seen on the following (second picture from the top):
http://www.hobiecat.nu/batar/21.asp

US Hobie 21 with a Canadian on board

PA on a H21