Cut Loose on the Neuse

Not just any regatta, but a North Carolina regatta, and my 21st birthday as well!

Set for the weekend of October 14-15 in Oriental, NC and entitled "Cut Loose on the Neuse," the regatta will be held on the Neuse River (3 miles wide at the regatta site) out of Camp Don Lee. There will surely be a turnout of F18s, as several have already pre-registered...you should too! As many as 5 Nacra 20s have also given word that they will show up. With some of the sponsors we have in on the race, it's sure to be a blast! So all you Yankees need to come on down South for some real sailing, and all you Florida boys need to get off your computers and come on up!

Go to www.ncsailing.org/clon for more info and preregistration for the race. See you there!

I agree that that part of the Neuse River is a great sailing location; however, the attachment is not on the Neuse - at least as I remember it. Truth in advertising paid me to write this.

Very consistent sea breeze in the afternoons.

woops, wrong attachment....lemme find the right one

Nice pic though... good try <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Ah, I miss the Neuse, and years of sailing at Camp Sea Gull, just around the bend from Camp Don Lee. I even sent my son there last year and the year before.

http://www.seagull-seafarer.org/ has some pictures of the Neuse in this area.

To bad I live in California now, or I'd be there.

Folks, check out Oriental, ranked in the top 10 undiscovered cruising destinations by Sail Magazine.

I worked at Sea Gull all summers during college as a sailng instructor. Great sailing program. If you could get their top Lightening rank, you could flat out sail.....

It's shaping up to be a great weekend this weekend. Weather will be sunny and near 70 with at least 10 knots. There will be t-shirts, Pig Pick'n Saturday night in Oriental, and a great sailing venue at Camp Don Lee. It's not too late to register. More info go to: http://www.ncsailing.org/clon/index.html

latest forecast---- looking good

Air temp is suppose to be 70 and sunny.

FRI
NW WINDS 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 2 TO 4 FT. A CHANCE OF SHOWERS IN
THE AFTERNOON.

FRI NIGHT
N WINDS 15 TO 20 KT. SEAS 3 TO 5 FT.

SAT
N WINDS 15 TO 20 KT EARLY THEN BECOMING NW 10 TO 15 KT IN
THE AFTERNOON. SEAS 3 TO 4 FT.

SAT NIGHT
W WINDS 5 TO 10 KT. SEAS AROUND 3 FT.

SUN AND MON
VARIABLE WINDS 10 KT OR LESS. SEAS 2 TO 3 FT.

This is the marine forecast for the nearest coastal area and it includes Pamilco Sound. The Neuse River where we're sailing is just off the Pamilco, so the seas will not be as high as shown in this forecast. Also the shoreline runs E/W and is North of the river, so that should make it nice and flat. So I would expect 10-15 on Sat and 10 on Sunday w/ flat water... PERRRFECT!!!!

if its blowing 10-15 on the neuse, I would NOT expect flat water.

The neuse is just like the ditch they use in Europe for speed trials, right Maugan! This is Treys' race!!!! Very flat water with very high winds, theres still time to get there for any on the fence. NC pig picking and fast sailing.

The beast is awakened from where she's slept since the Tybee 500 and she's hungry for salt water and wind on the Neuse!

Say, did anyone give twinkle-toes (Todd H.) a call? Get him to blow the dust off that I20.

Apparently he was contacted.

From my keelboat racing experience on the neuse, the waves can stack up.

I guess I'm the only one that likes that though :P

Thanks to Trey for showing me around Raleigh this past week! It was good to meet Alan and Jen as well.

Good luck to those competing. And, put the whole song in your head for the Regatta!

Artist: AC/DC
Album: Back in Black
Title: Back In Black


Back in black
I hit the sack
I've been too long I'm glad to be back
Yes, I'm let loose
From the noose
That's kept me hanging about
I've been looking at the sky
'Cause it's gettin' me high
Forget the hearse 'cause I never die
I got nine lives
Cat's eyes
Abusin' every one of them and running wild

CHORUS:
'Cause I'm back
Yes, I'm back
Well, I'm back
Yes, I'm back
Well, I'm back, back
I'm back in black

Yes, I'm back in black

Back in the back
Of a Cadillac
Number one with a bullet, I'm a power pack
I'm in a bang
With a gang
They've got to catch me if they want me to hang
Cause I'm back on the track
And I'm beatin' the flack
Nobody's gonna get me on another rap
So look at me now
I'm just makin' my play
Don't try to push your luck, just get out of my way

CHORUS

(Out of the sight)

What a great place for a regatta! I forgot to bring my camera...The wind was spectacular on Saturday - a little shifty but blowing between 8 and 12 all day. Sunday, the wind didn't show up on time and racing was abandond...shame too as we had some VERY close battles on the Nacra 20s.

RESULTS

Say, any of you out there familiar with Sailwave - can you tell me how to get the throwouts removed from the total score? It's correctly indicating which is the throwout, but it's still adding them all up (it didn't have any bearing on the placements in this event though).

You are looking at the total column that you chose to view and publish. You need to display AND publish the Net column to see results and to publish the results including throwouts.

So, go to view, rearrange columns, click on what columns you want to see where.

to adjust the number of races before you add a throw out
Go to scoring systems
Race Scoring
You will see a discard profile. it should be 0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1 This would give you one throwout after 5 races up through 8 races. If you wanted to have another throw after 10 races it would be 0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,2,2,2,2,2,

Thanks for posting the results Jake... I went to pull my powerboat out of the water and didn't make the awards.

I have photo's coming from a couple of different sources and I'll post them as soon as I get them.

Hopefully we'll do it again next year. We'll assess things and see if we can make it happen again. Maybe with a little warmer weather and no other regatta conflicts, we can grow it to 30+ boats.

Ummm, not that it makes much difference in the end, but the Portsmouth Yardstick for Isotope 2-up in Beaufort Scale 2-3 (4-11kts) is 78.4, not 74.2 (which is the Isotope 1-up handicap). That would shift the results for the first two races (up til when my mast broke <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> ). Oh, and that was the strongest 10 knots I've ever sailed in, lol.

Regards,
Eric

Eric,

I got the following numbers from the "inactive" us Sailing portsmouth tables for the 2up Isotope. Origionally we did accidently use the 1up rating.

DPN, 0-1, 2-3, 4, 5

Isotope Slp 2-up, 250# crew min
(77.1), [82.0], (77.1), [76.7], [72.0]

The wind was strange. David and I kept remarking that the water looked like it was definitely 12+ but that the wind in our face while parked felt much less. We couldn't find any signs of a significant current either...perhaps it was the brackish water? I don't have the score sheets in front of me but the race committee was recording wind mostly 7,8,9 but briefly sustained gusts up to 14 or so. I hadn't been on an I20 in a while but we were certainly "powered up" (on both tacks evenly) too!

Mark,

Sounds good - I would really like to see the photos since I forgot my camera!

I updated the results to show the Net results (thanks Mark S.!)

I'm tellin ya. That water is just weird.

Whats even weirder is that you'll come across 3' deep sandbars in the middle of the bloody mile-wide river.

Fun times when you have a 7'3" keel.

I can't remember where on the river Don Lee is, whether its inland of the Ferries or not, but once you get past Cherry point the water calms quite a bit, outside that point, and the water from the sound piles up in there.

That's odd, it appears that US Sailing has updated the Portsmouth numbers for ISTP-2. When I copied them early this year, they were: 77.1, 82.5, 78.4, 76.7, 70.8. Checking the website now, they show a 250# min weight (which isn't how the class rules read) and the numbers: 77.1, 82.0, 77.1, 76.7, and 72.0. I never thought the numbers would change like that for an inactive class - go figure.

Anyway, the new numbers probably are more accurate - they reflect how I felt we did on the water.

And, yes, I felt it was 12+ knots most of the time. Fresh water starts whitecapping at about 12. The Neuse is brackish and it takes more wind to whip up salt water. I saw broad patches of water on the verge of whitecapping throughout the second race. The puffs were higher. My read of the wind was 12-14kts with puffs nearing 18.

Joleen was fully trapped out and I was hiking hard at times. I had to spill air twice in the biggest puffs - and that simply doesn't happen in 10kts on an Isotope. I usually don't trap out at all at 10kts singlehanded. At what point do H18s double-trap?

Anyway, it was fun until the mast broke. As best I can reconstruct the failure, I think the rotation limiter gave way. That let the mast rotate sideways suddenly at full load, and it simply folded in half. Frank Meldau (of IFG - the manufacturer) was very surprised. It was the first Isotope mast collapse in 30 years. Unfortunately, it shredded my mainsail in the process, so that's it for the season.

Regards,
Eric

Camp Don Lee property line adjoins Camp Sea Gull to the east is on the east side of the Minnisott Beach Ferry landing. And it is about 8 miles SW of Oriental. When I put my powerboat in on Friday I was running through the race area checking my depth gauge. I didn't encounter any sandbars and it's at least 8' deep from 200 yds off the beach. However, it did appear to bounce from 12 to some 40+ feet holes. But I'm not sure how reliable my depthfinder is. On Sat Garland said he had to use some extra line to get one of the marks to set.

On Sat I thought water was a little choppy at times but not really a problem. Loyd and I were double trapped all day and was never too overpowered. Wind observations from Cherry Point (just across the river) said W14 at 4 PM. In all LOTS of fun.