Winter Racing Adelaide

We raced at ASC yesterday, light (3knots) consistent wind and flat water, 20 degrees, dolphins etc. It was tough, <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />, 30 dinghys, 3 cats, 2 rescue boats and a coach boat all braved the perfect winter conditions. We sailed loops, top mark was well set making the upwind interesting. Half way through 3 Hobie 16s joined in. Racing my mainsail only Mozzie downwind in such light conditions against Fireballs and other spinnaker equiped dinghys was surprising as the Mozzie was faster.

I didn't even get splashed, unfortunately did not get on the wire <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> but managed to lift a hull once ( while sitting on the leeward hull).

Jeffs drove 350km from to race his Nacra 5.8 and a Hobie 18 raced as well.

Next winter race is at Christies, Sunday 15th June, check the weather at the club using their website. Its high tide approx 2pm on 15th so I will checkout the ramp beforehand.
http://www.christiessailing.net/

Darryn
Mozzie
1782

Hi Darryn,

What place did you finish the race ? I couldn't see any results listed on the Christies website. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

I'm guessing you would have faster than the Hobie 16's unless they were sailed by midgets <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> and heaps faster that the Hobie 18.

Regards,

Peter

Hi Peter, we sailed from Adelaide Sailing Club, I dont think the results where seriously recorded as I, and others, kept doing loops and not finishing. The wind was very light and it didn't prove very much that the Mozzie, which had the best power to weight ratio and least drag, was fastest. If we had a couple more knots of wind or some other boats like mine it would have got more serious. As it was, it turned out to be good practice for mark roundings, laylines and racing the dinghys.

Darryn
Mozzie
1782

Not to mention heaps faster than the two old wackers on the 5.8, 700km for a drifter probably wasn't worth it but to meet the people who kept coming up and introducing themselves before and after the race was fantastic. Not to mention the start boat skipper who called out in anguish that we were being thrashed by a mozzie and called out sail trimming instructions.
regards

Jeff,

That's a bloody long way to go for an afternoon's racing. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> I thought only twicebitten did those sort of kms. Did the outside assistance provide the fix ? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Hi all,

1st Winter race at Christies tomorrow, Sunday. Racing starts at noon. The tides are against us with high water at 2.15pm. I just checked the ramp and launching will be ok but getting back onto the beach and up the ramp after racing will be somewhat harder but definitely possible.

Forecast is,
Sunday
Wind: E/NE 5/10 knots.
Sea: calm to 0.5 m.
Swell south of Marino Rocks: W/SW 0.5 m.

Darryn
Mozzie
1782

Hi all,
One A class, Mozzie and 7 T/S's had a light wind drift around the course at Christies last Sunday with the race eventually shortened to one lap. Paul on his A was first home with myself second only just managing to finish before the wind dropped completely. Prior to the start was interesting following around two boats doing some match racing resulting in collisions and protests. With both boats being left behind at the start it was somewhat counter productive to racing but they seemed to be having fun <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />.

Its on again at Christies, this Sunday 22nd, 12 noon start, acres of beach to rig and unrig this week and cheap beer afterwards.

Darryn
Mozzie
1782

Good to hear your doing some raceing.
In sydney last w/e it was 25-30knots.
I havent been sailing <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> .
Good luck this w/e
Cheers Ben

Sorry Peter I missed this post, I spend my work day doing intense physical work in a tent 900mm wide x 2000mm long x 2000mm high and really love getting some activity, its also Darryn's fault because he came up with the winter racing list,( thanks Darryn <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />). I went to the sauna sail 1500km for a slow sail but again lots of fun, I sat around the campfire with some hobie 17 guys and now I know why they have wings its to stop them rolling of the boat the next day <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> As for the trimming trips and practice, I'm 10 times the light wind sailer I was a month ago. I couldn't get to Christies last week but I'll be at Adelaide sailing club first week in July.
regards

On again, this time featuring wind <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Sunday 6th Jul 2008,
Adelaide Sailing Club
www.adelaidesailingclub.com.au/

Racing starts at 1300hrs. Multiple Races. All Welcome

Green arrows on the forecast.
www.seabreeze.com.au/maps/sa.asp

Darryn
Mozzie
1782

Yahoo I'm leaving tonight, what wind speed does racing get cancelled?

25knots, doesn't look like it will get that high, waves should be good <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Darryn

Yaaaaaahhhhooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Jeff/Darryn,

Good luck with the winter series.
Hope you can keep the cold out. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Jeff,

Was that you advertising the Lightweight Sharpie (monomaran) on ebay ?

Regards,

Peter

You've caught me out. But I've sold it now, never did sail it but it seemed like a good idea at the time. When I get back home I'll post a pic piggybacking it on top of my 5.8.

Looks good,
Sunday
Wind: NE/N 13/18 knots, turning N/NW 15/20 knots during the morning and then NW/W 13/18 knots in the evening
Sea: around 1 m.
Swell south of Marino Rocks: W/SW around 0.5 m.

Darryn

We raced at Adelaide yesterday, got the full 20knots and then some, enjoyed it so much I did an extra lap of the windward return course. 6 cats turned up and lots of dinghys. There was a photographer on the start boat I will post some pics as I get them.

Results showing my time for 4 laps, most sailed three, single handed dinghys sailed two and a shorter course.
http://www.yachting.org.au/site/yachting/results/adelaidesc/2008/club/winter/01RGrp1.htm

Next Winter Race,
Christies Beach
Sun 20th July Heat 3
Midday Start
good tides, plenty of beach.

Link for the South Australian Catamaran Group
http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/sacatamarans/

Darryn
Mozzie
1782

Terry on the Arafura Cadet,
taken by Peter Muirhead photos
http://www.petermuirhead.com/

Darryn

Arrow sailed by Will

Sadly I wasn't up to the conditions 700km driving, at the beach to set up 2.5 hours early, 20 minutes on the water. I dollyed out to just miss the rock wall, as soon as I cleared that a puff and set of waves sent me wave jumping while sitting on the tramp not hooked up. Before I had anything near contol we were over with a broken tiller extention and end of the day. I could only watch Daryn having all the fun. At least I've done my first righting of the 5.8 and got more experience under my belt I wont leave the beach again without hooking up. But I'll be back in August <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Darryn/Jeff

I you kinow of any brave souls looking for more winter sailing , Lake Bonney is having winter series

*Sunday July 27th
**Sunday August 17th
***Sunday September 7th
All racing to start at 1pm.

Might be long day from Adelaide but we will be doing it ( round trip from Adelaide too)

might be worth giving one of the locals there a call before to see numbers but hey, a day on the water is better than one spent mowing or gardening or anything else

David

Hi David,
I wont be making the drive for your winter series.

Christies is on tomorrow, 20th July, 12 noon start. Tides are good with 1130 being low. Seabreeze shows the wind allover the place with 3.5 metre swell which fits in with what I have been seeing all week, could be fun. I will post the bom forecast when it arrives.

Darryn

Sunday
Wind: N/NW 15/20 knots, easing to 10/15 knots during the afternoon ahead of a S/SW change 10/15 knots late afternoon, increasing to 18/23 knots in the evening.
Sea: 1 to 1.5 m, rising to 2 m in the evening.
Swell south of Marino Rocks: W around 1 m.

Ramp looks good.

Darryn

OK Darryn,

How was the racing ? What were the results ? Christies don't appear to list any results in the "off season" <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

Regards,

Peter

Hi Peter,
raced was cancelled, conditions were a bit to much of everything.

Darryn

No winter race results on the website, they will appear soon.

Attached is another of Petes pics from the Adelaide winter race two weeks ago, I purchased this one so it has lots of detail.

One of my favourites from Petes website http://www.petermuirhead.com/galleries/10/photos/10-003.htm

Darryn

Looks like we've got wind again this Sunday hopefully I'll stay upright a bit longer. Who's sailing?
regards

Me, weather looks good, should be a fast sail <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Adelaide SC, Sunday, 1 pm start, multiple races. All welcome.

Darryn
Mozzie
1782

Yeah any more wind and I might drag the mozzie down there for us old whackers to play on. I've got to stay upright this time because I've got a little video cam out front.

David did you get my pm replies regarding your pm and Lake Bonney
regards Jeff

How did it go yesterday Jeff?

We raced at Adelaide, 3 cats, Mozzie, Arrow and Nacra5.8, lots of dinghys, counted 20 between races and there was some casulties early on. Two races, 15 to 20knots Northerly, tide opposing the wind.

I think Jeff had a problem before the race and returned to the beach on the 5.8. Paul on the Arrow and myself started with the Sharpies, 470, Fireballs etc. I hung back at the start, avoiding the scrum, tacked onto port hit the layline plus a bit because it is more fun footing and rounded 150metres in front of the first dinghy. Surfed downwind, still drawing away from the dinghys with their spinnakers up and continued doing laps. Sailed two quick races. Highlights where racing aginst high quality dinghy sailors and of course the high sustained speeds that you get on day like that <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.

I sailed the same 3 lap windward return course as the Div 2 dinghys. The results are very close, I think our handicap of 84 works well.

Results
http://www.yachting.org.au/site/yachting/results/adelaidesc/2008/club/winter/series.htm


Darryn
Mozzie
1782

No real problem with the boat, this time we hooked on and took off straight out to sea but took a while to get organised, once organised we really took off jumping waves that just kept getting bigger, we pulled one of the downhaul pulleys of the mast but were still able to pull it on once we took up the slack. We pulled out because I couldn't figure out how to power it down enough to not jump of one wave into the middle of the next wave and get half washed off. We should have gone in the race but didnt realise the course was more sheltered in shore and the waves that really hit us were further out than the course. Once packed up and in the bar it struck us as we watched you just how far out we had gone, I remember looking way in shore at the start boat on our way in and we wouldn't have had to race in the bigger waves. I'm learning more each time and this time I was in control and didn't come close to tipping, the video I took of us was pretty dramatic to look at and shows me how I can improve alot. See you next month.
regards Jeff

I would be curious to see that video. Could you burn me a copy? Waves can get very big off ASC and the tide made them steeper and more confused.

If I had damaged my downhaul system it would have made my Mozzie very difficult to sail. It would be even more critical on the 5.8 with a dacron sail so maybe you couldn't apply the exteme amount of downhaul needed on a day like that to depower?

Racing again on 17th at Christies and next month the hot up series starts, sailing on every Saturday <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Darryn
Mozzie
1782

No worries burning a disc for you, pm me your address, I'd welcome any tips. I'm going to post in open forum a question about what program to download to edit the video so I can cut it. I've got to learn how to handle those waves as I can see the fun to be had. I think I have to pull the main on more to lift the hull more so that the next wave doesnt crash into us.
regards Jeff

Jeff
I think your boat is sold as a 5.8NA in US. Might be good to ask a question in the open forum about setting the boat up and depowering the rig. Good idea to sheet in and ride a bit higher and maybe take a step back when you see a big wave upwind saves the sudden deceleration as the bows dig into the next on landing. Of course better to avoid those waves if possible <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I cant recommend any video editing software, we use a couple of different types but there all crap, I think an apple is required to do it properly.

I have attached one of Peters pics from Sunday, me again <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
http://www.petermuirhead.com/

Darryn

See how agreeably flat the camera makes the water. I agree it is funny talking about the 5.8 in a mozzie forum but its become the winter racing thread. When you see the video you will see I couldnt get any further back, I had my feet in the foot holders so I wouldnt leave the boat as the boat dropped over the waves, its really funny to see my crews feet both leave the deck and then when he touches again we crash through the next wave. It was over one wave through the next, I didnt notice any deceleration on landing the girl just kept ploughing through.
regards

I am bearing away down a wave and the camera boat was on the crest, doesn't look like that at all.
I doubt anyone minds talking about tuning a 5.8 here, but there are guides online and they make a good starting point
http://goosemarine.com.au/Articles%20%7C%20Photos has some interesting stuff.

Darryn

Hey Jeff hows the video?
Were all one big fanily <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
You can show us all <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I'm going to post it when I work out how, it doesn't show me in a particulary good light but I reckon the helpfull hints will outweigh the embarassment. So far I've cut of the bits like leaving the beach and where the camera was on the wrong side etc so from 45mins its now 14 and shrinking.
I tuned it as per the Goose marine tips. I even have Scott Andersons "Advanced Catamaran Racing" and Rick Whites books that go into detail about this exact boat.
regards

Okay I posted the video on Youtube and started a thread in open
you'll see my efforts <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> don't be too hard on me
regards

Jeff,

How do I get to the video ? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

I did a youtube search under open and came up with millions of entries. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

Regards,

Peter

Jeff started another thread
http://www.catsailor.com/forums/showflat...true#Post154531

Darryn

Sorry Peter I should have said "open forum" here I'll try to post it here

Christies Beach,
Sunday 17th Aug, midday start, good tides and weather forecast.



Darryn

Mozzie

1782

Wouldn't mind but I just went to Cape Jervois and back today to pick up this stack of boats for the kids.

I like Taipan, instant fleet there Jeff <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Darryn

Jeff got ant dates on those long races are very keen to come down and have a crack. nice pick up.

Lacepede Bay Sailing Club hasn't finalised our dates yet. The Cape Jaffa Regatta, 3 races Saturday, 15km straight run Lauching at Cape Jaffa down to the clubhouse in Kingston on Sunday will be mid January 09. Kids can go in this race subject to weather they leave early and travel as a group with their own rescue boat not far off the beach then with approx 1km to go they race down around a bouy back to the club. Any kids not happy pull up on the beach and get picked up by groundcrew, no rocks on any beaches in this race.
The Earth movers classic 5km SW to the Butchers Gap drain, 10km NE to the Blackford drain, 5km SE back to the bar ( I mean club ) will be in mid April if enough want to have extra races on Sunday that could be organised.
I'll start a new thread for our club sailing once we have the date's, it'd be excellent if every club started a thread in open forum with their regatta's posted and update as they get newer.
I've tentatively organised that those visitors that want to, can camp on our lawn at the club with the cat mast up and have access to showers etc for a small fee to cover costs or I can organise better accomodation for those who want it.
Our club now has a Mozzie on the water so would be great if some Mozzies showed their stuff.
regards

Looking at the calender I am wondering where these races will fit in. Never enough weekends <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

Can download the draft calender from this page.
http://www.sa.yachting.org.au/default.asp?Page=36552

Another good site to put your regatta on.
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~mosquito/

Any details on the new Mozzie owner?

I raced at Christies on Sunday, I was the only cat, 8 sportboats/TS's. 2 Races, 20knots. Good fun.

Next race is the hotup series at ASC Sat 6th Sep (3 weeks <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> )

Darryn
Mozzie
1782

The dates are fairly fixed for us as the Lobster Regatta is on the same weekend as the Cape Jaffa, Lobster fest based around eating and drinking. The Earthmovers is our last weekend of sailing. As for our new Mozzie sailing member at Lacepede sailing club, he purchased the Mozzie I temporarily owned but he's a novice and he wants to lay low for a while. As soon as he gives approval I'll get him on the register.
Unfortunately I cant make the Adelaide Sailing club September race ( not that I last long anyway) were going to take 3 or 4 cats stacked and do the family camp and sail down at Lake Bonney on that date, already got the site booked on the water so we can pull the boats up next to the tents.
regards

Is there still racing at Adelaide Sailing club this Saturday being grand final day and is there any midweek sailing next week?
regards

Racing is scheduled at the club.
http://www.adelaidesailingclub.com.au/
I am going down to the club for a race but I doubt we will get the numbers to justify setting a course.

I dont know of any mid week racing going on yet, usually doesn't start until day light saving.

Darryn

Thanks Darryn, I'll be in Adelaide for the school holidays so I'm planning to bring the "A" to do the next two Saturdays and probably will bob around during the week. Is there any racing at Christies in that time?
regards

Not at Christies but Milang on 4th and 5th Oct would suit the A, and there will be a few other A's to race.

Hi Jeff, just spoke to Adelaide sailing club will be racing if there are enough starters. we got one Darryn just need to find some more. Hobie 16's should be there.Will try and find out.

Thanks Darryn I'll have to see what plans the family has regarding the Milang regatta but I'll definately be at Adelaide SC this Saturday.
Is it warm enough for you to sail now Danny?
regards

I'm on my way to Adelaide and will probably get to ASC at 11am Saturday see you there
regards