SEQ Mossies

Hey there,

The repairs took a little longer than planned but the boat will be back in the water this weekend and sailing at Cleveland.

Will still have a few things to do but just have to get back sailing.

Would be able to sail at other locations over coming weeks if others want to meet up.

I am also planning on sailing at Lake Cootharaba at Easter in their All Boats Regatta - 10 - 12 April, check the sailing club webpage for basic details - NOR for this year is not up yet.

We will camping at camp ground and sailing sloop + kite with my 2 boys.

Hope to meet up soon.

I was down at cleveland for a sail on the 22nd, was more of a spur of the moment thing as other clubs werent racing that day/humpybong had the f18 nats. Was a good 20+ knots of wind, i ended up capsizing with the kite up for the first time, was a bit too much for me to handle in that kind of wind, a wave sent me into an unexpected jibe and that was it. But a nice club, very friendly members, a very crowded rigging area though and limited parking, but nice to sail from. Unfortunately i wont be able to sail for the next 2 weekends, but will try to meet up for a sail on the 22nd.

Hi,

Yes I saw you listed in race list for that day, the wind was up a bit.

It is a good club but yes space is tight.

Would be OK with sailing somewhere on 22nd, let me knwo if you have any suggestions or preference.

Cheers,

Cleveland has its Coochie Island race on that day, I will find out some more details of course

Hey Drew, did u end up taking the mossie out for a sail on sunday? if so, how'd she go?

Hey there,

Alas, I did not make start line. Had trouble Sat afternoon getting inspection ports back on and sealed, did not want to take in water, I was sad but better to not risk it.

The ports are on now and will be all good for this Sunday. I am putting spinnaker set up together this week and should have it fitted as well.

I will either sail at Cleveland or I noticed Samsonvale has a breakfast do on as well. Might see what the forecast is Sat and then decide which venue.

Will post a report after Sunday.

Cheers,

If its a very windy day, too windy for the bay, then samsonvale is great, otherwise cleveland would probably have better wind. If you do decide to go to samsonvale, you'll have to get out to the gate between 8:30-9:00, the club is located in national park and is off limit to the public (makes for great quiet undisturbed racing, all you can hear out there is the wind, the water and the birds), club members all have keys and will be more than happy to let you through the gate when they go through (most of them arrive between 8:30-9:00), otherwise you can usually give someone a call down at the club, and someone will usually drive out and open the gate for you if ur running a little late.

Drew, where abouts are you staying for the All boats regatta at Lake Cootharaba, im more than likely going to come up for the weekend, i hear theres a camp site right next to the club?

Hi,

We will be camping at council camp ground which is few hundred metres from club, think there is a private caravan park closer but have not checked them out.
The council caretaker said they do not turn people away and it will be busy as it's Easter but we will have to leave trailers outside camp ground.

You can get phone numbers on Lake Cootharaba website for accomodation.
The state A class titles are on as well in conjunction with the all boats regatta so there will be a sizeable fleet.

I sailed at Cleveland today with my 2 boys and all went well so we were three up. It was a great day on the water.
Have included a photo of boat plus my two crew.

That would be great if you are going to Cootharaba at Easter.

Where are you sailing over next few weekends?

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Cheers, Drew

Hey there,

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Next Weekend i will be at either humpybong or maybe cleveland, as samsonvale and bribie arent racing, the following weekend i will be at bribie. (There was racing on at bribie today, but it was also the girlfriends birthday, so sailing took a back seat this weekend, talk about the weather gods rubbing it in my face though, it was an absolutely beautiful day for a sail up here, 10-15 knots, 30C, had to almost hide the key for the trailer and strap my self to something to keep from heading out, the things we do for love).

I was looking into the Boreen Point Camping ground (council park) as well, however from what i hear they run on a first come first serve basis, no bookings, so i was considering going up on thursday to secure a camp site, as for boat storage i would think the sailing club would have a rigging ground where boats can be left with masts up overnight as is the norm with most big regattas ive been to, if not then we should be able to keep them on the shore, not sure how much a tide comes through the river.

Great to see you're finally out on the water, i hope you boys had a great time, if theres one thing we need its to get younger generations as excited about sailing as we are.

Hey there,

Yes council ground is first come and no bookings - the caretaker reassured me they turn no one away it just can get tight.

Would agree that boats can stay on beach set up, and may be able to have trailers there.

We will be getting up there Fri morning, aiming for around 10.00am.

Next weekend I am solo on boat. Cleveland has a race down to Coochie Island and back which will possibly have some long reaches in it, I think there was talk of some prizes and a BBQ as well. Could be good, probably check weather Fri and Sat and see then where is best.

Maybe we can sort something out later in week as to where to sail.

Yeah sounds good. will discuss with you later this week where might be the best place to sail.

boats can be left on either the camp ground beach or main beach in front of sailing club. tide is only a few inches and doesn't affect boat storage. there is a long wade to deep enough water if leaving your boat at the camp ground beach, but with good conditions you can usually slow sail till the boards can go down.

a lot of ppl go up the weekend before easter to setup a tent because it is very busy, but you can usually squeeze in somewhere at the last minute. don't turn up late at night, the caretakers get very upset. caravan park next to club closed down a long time ago and the lots have been for sale since.

Thanks for the info nick.

Has anyone raced in the All boats regatta before? I was speaking to one of 5.8 sailors from bribie yesterday and he was saying last time he went in it, the whole system was very confusing, with all boats racing against each other on yardstick, but doing a different number of laps, e.g 1 for monos 3 for cats, but with times still corrected using vyc?? Apparently the mono's tend to clean up the prizes, if thats how it works im not suprised, nothing like a yardstick race with a 2 lap headstart. The only thing i could think of as to how it might work, is that the monos do less laps so that the start and finish is exciting (i.e. monos and cats start and finish close together), with monos using their 1 lap time and cats using an average time of their 3 laps, with times then being corrected by VYS. Anyone know?

I couldn't figure it out last time I bothered to try.

So long as everybody is on the same course, then correcting for the number of laps that different divisions do is not hard. This system is built in to TopYacht so it's really easy to do the results.

I've just looked at the NoR for last year's regatta. It's a little confusing but it looks like they have a division for cats (3) and a division for most of the dinghies (2), but these divisions will be divided into "slow" and "fast" and given a different number of laps to sail, but then their times will be multiplied up to get a time for 4 laps. This means the slow cats and fast cats will be racing a similar amount of time but can still get an overall result.

It doesn't look like the monos are scored against the cats - which is a relief. Racing multihulls against monohulls is a no-no.

Hi all,

Never sailed in it before, thought it would be a good few days of sailing, racing and enjoying the few days of holiday with my kids.

This year the A class states are on in conjunction with the regatta.

Expecting it to be busy and lots of boats and sailors which tends to make it more fun.....I hope!

I will check as to how it is run and scored just to be sure.

Hello all,

I'm a member of LCSC and the organisor of the A Class State Titles there at Easter. Perhaps I can answer some of the questions reaised above about the regatta. Firstly, it would be wonderful to see some Mozzies attend. The club had many sailing there in their heyday of the seventies and eighties, including being the home club of a former national champion - Andy Duffield. Vic Collett, another National Champion was also a regular visitor.
The A Class States will be run on the same course but with separate starts from the Alboats. We will also have 8 heats with the general fleet having 5. The difference being we'll have back to backs on the three afternoons. So please leave some rum for us in the bar as we'll be getting back later than you!
The A's will have separate results from the Alboats.
As mentioned above, it's easy to convert all results for the general fleet to one common base even though they are radically different speeds and doing a different number of laps. TopYacht simply calculates an elapsed time per lap and then converts to a base of 4 laps and applies the appropriate yardstick. We've been using this sytem for a wide range of cats and monoslugs every week for a number of years and it seems to work well. I disagree with the comment about monoslugs and multis on VYC. We do plenty of sailing in just such circumstances and the good sailors who are at the pointy end of their fleet in national and state titles tend to do well in club races as well, regardless of the type of boat they are sailing. I'd say if the monoslugs won a past regatta it was because they were the better sailors. Remember that no yardstick will compensate for a well tuned boat and skillfull crew against an older boat with inexperienced crew.
Anyway, I reckon leave all this aside - winning would be a bonus - it's a great place to sail, plenty of boats to sail with, good tucker at the club, plenty of Bundy and like minded conversation.
Come up and say hello - I'm on an Ashby Geltek Flyer II hull number 20.

Cheers
John Dowling

Hi John,

Thanks for response, I will be there that's for sure, have it already booked in calendar.

Looking forward to the sailing and people.

Also will take you up on invite to say hello, might borrow some setup ideas off the 'A'.

Mine is the grey mossie with black kite #1635.

See you at Easter.

I dont think the two mossies with kites will be hard to miss on the water, hopefully we can let everyone know that mossies in qld are still around and are back on the water.

Ive actually raced against Vic Collett, he races an A-class out of Humpybong as does his son Brad, who came 2nd in the recent F18 nationals, and placed very well in the A-class nationals and worlds recently i believe. Both very good sailors, id heard rumours they use to be mossie sailors, but havent spoken to them yet.

Will see you up there john, good luck with the a-class comp.

on ebay mossie 1626 from Paradise point. $300
anyone now anything about this boat, could be good to get another mossie sailor on the water in QLD, how about QLD national titles in a couple of years time, if the numbers keep on multipling.

$300 is just the starting bid, i suspect he wants a bit more for it than that, but it looks quite good, i might talk to commodore up here at bribie and see if they might take it on as a sail training/racing boat for the juniors, as atm they just put around on fevers and corsairs watching us cat sailors blast by often asking if any of us want to swap boats for the day

Also theres a mosquito sail number 968 i think, at Alderly in brisbane, i had a look at it to see if it was in good enough condition to be usable, or just scrapable for parts. He wants $300 for it, theres some delamination of the hulls, but the decks of the hulls are shot, as they are rotted and would need to be replaced, the sides of the hulls seem to be fine as they seemed to be glassed right up to the decks inside and out with from what i could tell to be no signs of rot. The very tips of the bows seemed a bit soft, the back of the sterns however felt solid. The daggerboard trunks felt very solid. The sail is in one piece but the fabric is old. The rudders are garbage, but the daggerboards seemed ok, the old style of boards though, the spars and stays from what i saw seemed in good nic. Comes on a registered trailor that looks in fairly good condition, Has a large diameter PVC tube as a sail tube. Didnt really want to take this one on my self as i dont have any boat building experience and dont know how much effort or money would be involved in replacing the decks, but it could be a relatively cheap fix-er-up-er-er. Any estimates on the cost of replacing the decks, and probably the addition of some more bulkheads would be. Id love to see another mossie back on the water, especially in qld, so if its not too much, i may suggest it to the club as well, if anyone thinks its worthwhile.

Set of painted plywood hulls here with foils, if the fittings are ok on 968 may be able to make a cheap "new" boat.
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~mosquito/boats_for_sale.php

The older mast walls are a bit thicker then the new ones so can be good for mk2's or heavier mk1 sailors.

Darryn
1782

McG,

I would think that Vic Collet would happily passon any ifo and tips he has for mossies, and yes he was a very good mossie sailor.

Good to continue to see you guys slowly put more boats on the water up there, keep up th good work ( have you all there talked to Ben yet about a combined assoc until both states have enough numbers to stand alone???.... and remember you will need to be finanicial member of a state assoc for the Nationals)

David,
Salpicon de Resplandor , 1744

from what you say about 968 it could be a bolokey boat, they were fibre glass hull with timber deck, these were not a good boat, heavy, soft and no shape or volume in the hulls one to avoide even as a first boat, one of these would turn you of sailing a catamaran ever again. but if there is a trailer, good mast and fittings it could be worth the $300 dollors. and a trip to the tip to get rid of the fibre glass hulls.

A "Bolokey" boat!!!!!!!
Brilliant. If I was going into the business of building catamarans I would not have thought of that business name

Sums up the type of boat nicely though. I think you are right greymatter. These old wrecks can do more harm than good and really put people off sailing (or at least sailing Mosquitoes). They can however be a very good source for a trailer and (less so) for fittings.

Had been thinking of the one on ebay for a spare mast, boom etc but it is now at $500.00.

Will make sure to send some emails to winning bidder and try to promote sailing with other mozzies or at the minimum get a name and contact number.

Unless that is the Bribie lot bidding on it?

David - have not discussed matters with Ben as yet, will get around to it after Easter.

At this stage it seems to be myself and Michael in SEQ - our friend from the west of Qld seems to have got lost on the way from Mt Isa.

Hopefully we can create some interest over the coming months by sailing together.

Easter we are at Lake Cootharaba for All Boats - so will have 2 mozzies with kite - hopefully we can make a positive impression on some there and generate new interest in the class.

Will post a report after Easter.

Cheers,

No its not Bribie biding on it, bribie's next committee meeting isnt until the 18th, so i imagine it will be sold by then. I was also considering emailing the seller, and asking him to give the buyer my contact details as well as the address to this forum.

I was out at samsonvale again yesterday, First race was light wind, but good practice, second race was about 15 knots, was a blast, managed to leave the fleet behind with the spinnaker only to end up in a patch of glassy water to sit and watch everyone catch up as they followed the wind on the other side of the lake But it was good fun, even managed to get out on trapeze whilst flying the kite and a hull, which was a first for me, and challenging as well, i needed to use the foot strap for the first time, its amazing how the simple act of holding onto the kite sheet will pull you forward when you out on trapeze, especially in a gust. Gave one guy on a hobie ai a great show as a gust hit and my foot wasnt in the strap and i swung around from the back of the boat back onto the deck at the front beam. Even worse was, ive setup a camera bracket for the end of the spinnaker pole, and i used all the battery filming the first (light wind and uneventful) race so i didnt get it on camera!

More news from the day however. After heading up to the club house for lunch after the first race, i was heading back down to my boat when i noticed another boat at distance setting up, with what appeared to be a mosquito logo on the sail. Upon getting closer it turned out it was, it was mosquito sail number 706. Unfortunately upon closer inspection, the rest of the boat appeared to be somewhat of a mutant. Looked like somewhere underneath were mosquito hulls, that had been built up upon, with a wooden dingy like deck area built between the hulls, and resort style hobie wooden rudders on the back. Didnt have time to chat to the owner as i was short on time for the 2nd race, but the owner didnt race, just sailed around the lake a bit, and was gone by the time the race was over.

Hi,

Sailing Easter at Cootharaba All Boats regatta.

LCSC has advised on their website all good for regatta this weekend, there was some worry about recent flood waters from all the rain but all OK.

Weather looks good, winds 10 - 20 knots plus maybe a few showers.

Will be heading up late Thursday night to avoid traffic, probably just sleep in the bus and then set up camp Fri morning.

Michael - you still coming?

Looking forward to 3 days of good sailing & racing.

Cheers,

Unfortunately i twisted my ankle at training on wednesday night (im a martial arts instructor), so no sailing for me for a few days , so i wont make it to cootharaba this easter.
Which is a real shame as i was really looking forward to it, but i should hopefully be back on the water next weekend.