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F16 Midwinters East - US

Posted By: tshan

F16 Midwinters East - US - 11/17/06 03:39 PM

The annual Tradewinds regatta has been designated the F16 Midwinters East. All US East coast F16s should consider this a "must attend" event. More info can be found on the CatSailor homepage.

Can any South Florida sailors comment on the location, sailing conditions, etc.?
Posted By: Robi

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 11/19/06 11:33 PM

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Can any South Florida sailors comment on the location, sailing conditions, etc.?
One word Perfect.

But in all honesty, last two tradewinds, the wind was howling. 20+kts and it has been cold. Wind temps in the mid 50s.

The venue is excellent. They have a huge pool, showers, restrooms everything you need for a good weekend sailing event. The hotels close by are pretty good, but you will find better for the same price in other locations. That is a plague that occurs down in the FL keys. I dont mind it, because I only need a bed to sleep in.

The water is crystal clear, depth is around 10 to 12 ft so do not worry about waves or going turtle.

Getting down there can be crazy driving through South FL. If you are driving down via I-95 I recomend getting on the FL turnpike just before West Palm beach and if you are comming down via I-75 get on the turnpike just after the Miramar Pkwy extit. If not, you will be stuck in mad-crazy traffic.

Any questions you can contact me via pm or reply here. I will try my best to help out.
Posted By: fin.

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 11/20/06 12:08 PM

It is a new, modern facility. A few years ago, the city bought it, tore down the old, ratty hotel and started over with a clean slate. In total, it must be around 40 acres; although the beach is a little small, it is more than ample for our needs.

Let me know more about your itinerary.
Posted By: Mary

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 11/20/06 01:36 PM

Actually, the water depth is more like 8 feet, about the same as Blackwater Sound. The Founders Park property was originally 55 acres before they added additional acreage to the north.

I don't know about the beach being small. We have had more than 100 boats on it for past Tradewinds Regattas. It is one of the most beautiful beaches anywhere in the Keys. Maybe you didn't see it when you were down there for the seminar, because we were over on the far other side of the property.

The beach is in a cove, so it is usually nice calm water for launching. It's an awesome location, as some will remember from long past Tradewinds Regattas and seminars.

And as far as motels, we are hoping that everybody will choose motels that are in Islamorada, since that is the Tourist Development Council district from which we received funding to advertise Tradewinds. It is important to impress them with the business the event brings to that area.

There are lots of motels within three miles north and south of Founders Park (Mile Marker 87). Closest are Lookout Lodge, Islamorada Motel, and Conch-on-Inn. Holiday Isle is two or three miles south, and Harbor Lights and Coconut Cove.....complete list from the Islamorada Chamber of Commerce. Link is at the NOR.

In plenty of time before the regatta I will make a diagram of Founders Park, showing where to rig and where to put trailers, etc., and will have it with the NOR and also posted on this forum.
Posted By: Robi

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 11/20/06 01:57 PM

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Robi, I don't know what you mean about the beach being small. We have had more than 100 boats on it for past Tradewinds Regattas. It is one of the most beautiful beaches anywhere in the Keys. Maybe you didn't see it when you were down there for the seminar, because we were over on the far other side of the property.
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I think you are reffering to Pete.

Robi > Pete <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Mary

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 11/20/06 02:50 PM

Sorry, I didn't notice I was answering two different posts. I edited mine now.
Posted By: Robi

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 11/20/06 03:03 PM

Mary is there a page or can you please list the hotels that are closest to the venue, pretty please!

I would like to stay very close this time around.

Thank you.
Posted By: Mary

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 11/20/06 03:58 PM

Okay, here you are -- I think these are all the closest ones. There are lots more a mile farther down the road. Don't rely on the rates that I have on some of them, because they are from last April.

Islamorada Motel (Closest)
87760 Overseas Highway (Mile Marker 87.76, bay side)
Phone: 305-852-9376
They have a total of 13 rooms, 5 large and 6 small.
Rates: Small room, one queensize bed -- $79
Large room, two beds and kitchen -- $99
Web site: www.islamoradamotel.com

Lookout Lodge (Next Closest) (On the same water as the regatta)
87770 Overseas Highway (Mile Marker 87.77, bay side)
Phone: 305-852-9915
They have a total of 10 rooms
Rate range: $139-$350
Web site: www.lookoutlodge.com

Conch-on-Inn (third closest)
Corner of U.S. 1 and Caloosa St. (Mile Marker 89.5, bay side)
Phone: 305-852-9309
They have a total of 8 rooms
Rates: One queen bed -- $89
Two double beds -- $99
I think all the rooms have frig. and microwave.
Web site: www.conchoninn.com
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Holiday Isle Resorts
Mile Marker 84 (just 3 miles south of Founders Park)
Phone: 305-664-2321
They have five hotels on the property, all with different names. You call that same number for all of them and pick the one you want. They all have different price ranges. If you want a peaceful one, get one of the motels farthest north on the property (closer to Founders Park). If you want to be where all the action is, you might want the Tower Building (also called the Horizon) or the next motel north of that. They are the closest to the Tiki Bar, which is far better than the one at Gilbert’s. Holiday Isle also has restaurants on the premises and I think food at the Tiki Bar, too.
Holiday Isle is the big “hot spot” between Miami and Key West.
Web site: www.holidayisle.com

For more motels, go to the Islamorada Chamber of Commerce: http://www.islamoradachamber.com/lodging.cfm
Posted By: tshan

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/08/06 11:31 PM

5 F16s pre-registered. I hope that a fleet of 10 is a possibility. Just over a month to go. You can check the pre-registered boats by entering the registration site.

Is there a hotel that is preferred by the F16 crowd? I am looking to book asap, but want to make sure I am in "good" company.
Posted By: fin.

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/09/06 12:17 AM

http://www.islanderfloridakeys.com/ Don't know who else is staying there.
Posted By: Robi

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/10/06 05:25 AM

im staying at the Islamorada Motel, cheap, thats all I care for. I am only going there to sleep.
Posted By: tshan

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/14/06 03:40 AM

**** around about it.

I assume matt/GINA, THE Chuck, maybe Seth others....does anyone need some coaxing? Talk to me.

I'd like for my 900 mile (one way) excursion to be well worth it. I don't mind chasing you guys around the course, but let us see what we have (since we have no BIG NAME SAILORS IN THE FLEET and F16 IS ONLY A FAD).

900 miles maybe inconsequential to the trip I am going to take to the Pacific Coast Champs in June. ROAD TRIP! Maybe Robi wants to coordinate a container of F16 to the CA venue. I know he loves to talk shipping!!!
Posted By: ejpoulsen

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/14/06 05:09 AM

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Robi wants to coordinate a container of F16 to the CA venue. I know he loves to talk shipping!!!


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I'd be happy to help facilitate--The big event should be June 23-24, 2007
Posted By: Robi

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/14/06 05:24 AM

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900 miles maybe inconsequential to the trip I am going to take to the Pacific Coast Champs in June. ROAD TRIP! Maybe Robi wants to coordinate a container of F16 to the CA venue. I know he loves to talk shipping!!!
If you go, im sure im going. IS renting an RV an option? we need a big trailer where we can fit four to five boats.

I am sure if I go, Pete and Terry would go as well, seing how we are in FL and we usually hang out with eachother. Now Matt, The Chuck and Seth, well they are hard to track down for some odd reason. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

ROAD TRIP!

I got 50 days I can burn off, plus by then I will have around 15 extra days <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Robi wants to coordinate a container of F16 to the CA venue. I know he loves to talk shipping!!!


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I'd be happy to help facilitate--The big event should be June 23-24, 2007
Cant wait to see the flier!!!! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Robi

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/14/06 05:26 AM

Tradewinds F16 pizza party at Boardwalk pizza. Best pizza in the keys by far. Bring your own mula, wildergfx cant sponsor. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: fin.

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/14/06 12:27 PM

I'm in for pizza! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Isn't that the place we went during the seminar?

California in June? I will try very hard! Need to start working on the logistics now. I would imagine Debbie will come with me for that one. Seth has a brand-new baby, so he's probably out. Matt has a business to run, doubt he would make a road trip. Don't know about Chuck. Probably you, Terry and me are all we can count on to drive. Of course Terry has business obligations as well.

How much time are you willing to spend on this?

It looks like a scheduling conflict with Daytona. Hopefully we can work around it.
Posted By: Robi

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/14/06 02:12 PM

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I'm in for pizza! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Isn't that the place we went during the seminar?

California in June? I will try very hard! Need to start working on the logistics now. I would imagine Debbie will come with me for that one. Seth has a brand-new baby, so he's probably out. Matt has a business to run, doubt he would make a road trip. Don't know about Chuck. Probably you, Terry and me are all we can count on to drive. Of course Terry has business obligations as well.

How much time are you willing to spend on this?

It looks like a scheduling conflict with Daytona. Hopefully we can work around it.
ill start throwing some numbers together and will probably get back to you via pm or email.

Oh and its NOT Chuck, every sailor in FL, knows that when we address "Chuck" we address him as THE CHUCK.
Posted By: tshan

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/14/06 02:41 PM

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California in June?


Huntington Lake, not the coast. Eric has posted some pix in other threads that look fantastic. He'll come up with more details, but go ahead and pencil it in.
Posted By: fin.

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/14/06 02:44 PM

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. . . pencil it in.

Done. But only in pencil, I've made the drive before! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Robi

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/14/06 02:58 PM

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California in June?


Big Bear Lake (I think), not the coast. Eric has posted some pix in other threads that look fantastic. He'll come up with more details, but go ahead and pencil it in.
2,751 miles from my house. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> So do we pick you up Tom on our way out?
Posted By: fin.

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/14/06 03:23 PM

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California in June?


Big Bear Lake (I think), not the coast. Eric has posted some pix in other threads that look fantastic. He'll come up with more details, but go ahead and pencil it in.
2,751 miles from my house. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> So do we pick you up Tom on our way out?


fuel expense: 2,751 x 2= 5502 mi round trip. Divide by 15? mpg. Half that? 366.8 to 733.6 gallons. Times $3 per gallon? $1100 - $2200. Is that close?

I'm assuming stacked boats and two people.
Posted By: Robi

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/14/06 03:29 PM

On a fuel efficient vehicle yes, that is close. Factor onto that, food, sleeping accomodations. I was thinking about an RV, but the price skyrockets. It is a pretty expensive trip.

Shipping the boats back and forth and flying out will be cheaper.

I am still throwing numbers together.
Posted By: fin.

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/14/06 03:36 PM

I don't think shipping the boats is a problem, but how 'bout the masts? I've never done either one.
Posted By: tback

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/14/06 10:52 PM

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5 signed up. Need some more. I'd like to say I got my a$$ kicked by all East Coast F16s.


Talked with Matt today and he confirmed that Team VMI as well as THE CHUCK (Team Butterfly) and Seth would be there. so that brings the F16 total up to 8. I've left a message for Ed & Steph (new F16) to inquire about them making the trip ... this would be their first multi-day regatta on the F16 (but not their first race!!! ... very competitive on the H-16).

So Tom ... bring it on ... pretty sure you'll find some good competition at this years Tradewinds.
Posted By: Mark P

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/15/06 10:16 AM

When my friends go on their annual November pilgrimage to Aruba from the UK they can fit up to 8 Tornado's including masts and all their equipment and gear into a 40ft container, they have been known to take two containers and put a RIB and additional Cats in the second. The whole weeks package works out at approx £1,600 (container, flights and accomodation). Obviously these containers are shipped from the UK to Aruba so transporting yours by land may be cheaper and quicker?
Posted By: Robi

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/15/06 11:35 PM

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When my friends go on their annual November pilgrimage to Aruba from the UK they can fit up to 8 Tornado's including masts and all their equipment and gear into a 40ft container, they have been known to take two containers and put a RIB and additional Cats in the second. The whole weeks package works out at approx £1,600 (container, flights and accomodation). Obviously these containers are shipped from the UK to Aruba so transporting yours by land may be cheaper and quicker?
Beleive it or not, I just got a price quote, that is actually cheaper to buy new boats get them delivered and re-sell them. Its crazy expensive. The problem I see is the price quote I recieved is on a 53ft long by a 9 foot tall container,
Posted By: Wouter

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/16/06 09:34 AM



That is a special container and you don't need it. 40 foot container is far more standard and should be fine, if not much cheaper.

Wouter
Posted By: Robi

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/16/06 11:33 AM

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That is a special container and you don't need it. 40 foot container is far more standard and should be fine, if not much cheaper.

Wouter
Yep thats true, and I am waiting on a reply from that company.
Posted By: tshan

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/20/06 10:41 PM

Is there any local knowledge to help me get through South Florida/Dade County any quicker? When to get on the turnpike? Avoid the turnpike? Etc. Mapquest puts me on the turnpike in Orlando - sound right? I'd love to pick up even 30 minutes.

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Posted By: Robi

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/20/06 10:55 PM

Tom, as soon as you hit FL, get on I75 ASAP!

After alligator alley, head south towards MIami on I75 (you have not gotten off)

Just after Miramar pkwy exit, is the exit to the Turnpike I think it says Homestead. Get on the turnpike then. Go all the way till you hit US1. Cant go wrong. You will only pay around 4 bux of tolls compared to 20+ comming from Orlando.

When are you comming down?
Posted By: tshan

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/21/06 12:55 AM

I'll be arriving in Islamorada around midnight Thursday, barring any travel problems. I've booked a room at the same hotel you are staying. Plan to set up the boat Fri AM and sail in the PM. Crew is flying in Thursday PM with wife. Crews always get the best part of the deal.

Thanks for the directions. Wasn't sure if there was a preferred way to navigate around Miami.
Posted By: Robi

Re: F16 Midwinters East - US - 12/21/06 01:29 AM

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Thanks for the directions. Wasn't sure if there was a preferred way to navigate around Miami.
Yeah actually there is. Make sure you drill this into your brain and learn it, live and abide by it!











DONT GO INTO MIAMI!
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Honestly, avoid Miami at all cost. Specially towing a boat. Took me 4+ hours from my house to Key Largo, which is only probably a 70 mile trip
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