Gary sailing his Blade F16 at the Taipan VIC title

Gary sailed his Blade F16 at the Taipan VIC titles and here are the results :


http://www.mmyc.yachting.org.au/site/yachting/mmyc/downloads/Results/taipan%20states.pdf


He DNF-ed in 5th race and DNC-ed in the 6th, still got 3rd place in the open fleet (7 boats) composed of the Capricorn F18's, Taipan 5.7's (with spi) and the lone small Blade F16.

Going into the 5th race (his DNF) Gary was tied with Greg Goodall (Cap F18) and Chris Boag (Taipan 5.7) for first place !

If they used the VYC handicaps then Gary was sailing off a rating of 71 while both the F18 and T5.7's were sailing of 70. This is consistent with the Texel ratings F18/F16 of 101/102 and a projected USPN rating off F18/F16 = 62.4/63.3. That latter is still F18/F16 = 62.4/65.2 now, an additional 3% slower.

I think we can assume that Greg and Gary are similary skilled sailors.

Well done Gary ! Race report !

Wouter

Wouter,
I spoke to Gary last night, he had just got home and was going to be on the road for work for a couple of days.

Gary is a great communicator so he will probably write a report when he gets back home. Just need to wait a couple of days.

Regards,
Phill

I thought the texel rating for a 1 up F16 was 100 and an F18 101. But what I'm more suprised at is that there was a draw for first place. Here at Mumbles if there is a draw at the end of a series of races then a count back would be introduced with the person with the most 1st being the winner, if there was still a tie then the person who had the better position in the final race would be declared the winner. Oh well, each to their own!!

Wouter,

VYC for F16 is now 71.5 - i am pretty sure. VYC for f18 is 70.

FYI - side stay pin was damaged by spin sheet & the rig fell down on the last race.

Gary was dissapointed as he was having a good regatta until that moment <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

marcus

Mark - interesting point. i would agree with you, but for some reason they have possibly counted the fact that Greg Goodall came 3rd twice.?

If you look at the Tiapan result there was a tie for 3rd & the fellow that was relegate to 4th place actually was 1st in the last race, but third place getter didn't even win a race.

Go figure.

Marcus

Mark,

You are correct ; F16 1-up under Texel is indeed 100.

I guess you have caught me there !


Wouter

Marcus,

It could well be. I keep tabs on rating systems but I can't find any website showing a newer version of the VYC handicaps then 2007, like this one :

http://www.vic.yachting.org.au/site/yachting/vic/downloads/Yardsticks06_07.pdf

This version is showing 71 as rating.

Do you know of a resource for the 2008 official VYC listing, if so then I would really like to have it. I archieve these things for possible future reference.

Wouter

Just had a quick look at the results, Under ISAF racing rules, when there is a draw the boat with most firsts wins, if they both have the same number of firsts, then it goes on to seconds etc. If they are level at the end of that, last race wins.

http://www.sa.yachting.org.au/site/yachting/sa/downloads/Event%20Info/YSA%20Yardsticks%20Dec07.pdf

Try this one?

Super !

Thanks Marcus

Mark,

We are both wrong !

I just checked and the Texel rating for F16 1-up is actually 101 and not 100 or 102.

Same as the F18 and A-cats therefor, also at 101.

Wouter

Hi All

Not that it matters in any sense, but for most of the regatta Gary was trying out the Taipan Big Head main.

I think Gary could have been a bit further up in the list, but I did notice a early start that he had to come back and do over and a hit on a marker (I also hit a mark after finding the anchor floating about 1' under the water for about 50' from the mark). And the pin failure obviously didn't help either.

But thats the first time I've seen it on the water up close anyway, it looks really good, I'll have a closer look at the F16 event in Portland in April.

Regards

Hi All,

I was sprung by Wouter. Hoping to bring you the news first myself but life is very hectic at moment.

Firstly thank you to the Taipans and Greg for making me welcome. As you can see I raced with 3 Capricorns, 2 Taipan 5.7 Spin and one Taipan 5.7, why because I had the chance to trial a big head Goodall sail which was actualy designed for a Taipan, but fitted the Blade OK despite being a bit long on the boom and to look at others sails like Ashby Taipan big head and tune my boat and myself and pump the best cat rig Taipan sailors in OZ for tuning info <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.

All races where 3 laps windward and returns. First race water flat, wind steady 8 knots, FCA Blade was hot from the start battling with Greg and Chris the 2 best Capricorns, FCA Blade was able to fly a hull upwind with me sitting in middle, while Caps where stuck on both hulls <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> This gave me better height and speed upwind and even though Caps flew hull down wind with crew on leeward side I was able to get a little better VMG going deeper sitting in. After first 2 laps I shook of Caps for a clear win <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />.

Second and third race consistant 5 knots, couldn't fly hull upwind <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />, occasionaly flew hull down wind, speed difference was negligible with Capricorns, but I made many mistakes, poor starts and hit mark <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />, but managed to beat Chris to place second in second race and pipped Greg after pressuring up and coming from well behind on trap with kite up on last leg, while he was trying to pass Chris to get second in third race.

Fourth race 15 knots and .5m lumpy sea. This is what I had come to tune in, after Chris and I where recalled at start, Greg had bolted and Chris pulled away but I was able to hang on to the third Cap and Taipan 5.7's enough upwind that my extra speed and better angles downwind allowed me to pass them, The FCA Blade handled the lumpy conditions well and the Goodall Bighead main gave me the power and speed, whichever I needed <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> to be competitive. So I finished a distant third to Greg and Chris with third Cap just behind and 5.7's behind them.

Fifth race, a little lighter 12 to 15knots lumpy seas, Greg and Chris took of again but again I was able to hang around the third Cap and 5.7's for 2 laps, but I broke my Spin sheet tidying loop on the clew of the spinnaker whilst in fourth place, this allowed the return chord to be so long it wrapped around end of pole on gybe drop and I was stuck trying to get it down well past the leeward mark, so with another race to come imediatly after, I decided to retire and fix it properly.

Sixth race started well around 12 knots, top mark not so far behind Chris and Greg mixing it with the rest, bottom mark good drop just behind third Cap but the sidestay adjuster pin came out and the mast came down <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />. Thankfully no big damage all OK.

Despite the bad end a great weekend was had, with the Taipan sailors all very friendly and I learnt alot. The FCA Blade made some good impressions, but I was not there to convert anybody, although Gordon (current F16 State Challenge Trophy holder)and I did take the opportunity to encourage some to use spinnakers more often, like the up coming F16 Challenge. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

I was very happy with the Goodall big head main and would have no hesitation in buying one if I had any money <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />. It was very flexible, able to supply power or speed as required with the head standing up if you wanted, but twisting well without excessive use of downhaul pressure.

By the way Wouter I think that Greg is a better sailor than me, his experience at starts and close racing skills puts him ahead in my opinion, never mind his knowledge of how to get the best out of his rigs. But thanks for the compliment <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />.

Hi Matt,

didn't realize you where there, you should have let me know who you where, or did I talk to you <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Thanks for reminding me of the excuses for not winning more races <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />. Those floating Buoy anchor ropes where a pain.

Look forward to meeting you at Portland.

Hi Gary

When you where going through I tried to see what you looked like, but couldn't see because of your kite and the hat I've seen you wear in nearly every photo. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

You did win some sort of booby prize at presentation, but you I think you'd left because you didn't collect. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> and I missed out seeing you there as well.

Regards

You see at the top of the results sheet it says "Ties not resolved!". This is because the results have been done with TopYacht and you actually have to pay extra money to the developer to get the tie resolving software to work.

So in this case TopYacht knows how to resolve the tie, but doesn't bother. Greg was definitely first as he had three 1st places but Chris only had two. The club should have manually fixed up the results really.

Tim
Sailwave scoring software is FREE and the program works out the complete/final results <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Maybe you could mention this to the organisers!!!

If there was a way to get Sailwave to calculate back-calculated personal handicaps I reckon it would be a lot more popular in Australia. Personal handicap seems to be a big thing here.

I've never got the hang of Sailwave as I haven't spent the time on it. I should as I'm sure it would be worthwhile.