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First Sail On New Blade - with photos

Posted By: simonp

First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 11:45 AM

Took the Blade out for it's first sail today. Weather in Victor today was about 26 degrees C and about 12-15 knots blowing offshore, which means gusty and very flat water.

Despite a few teething problems like remembering how to leave beach on an offshore day with me on the boat and not dragging behind it, I finally got it going. Heading out to sea boat wanted to really wild thing, which had me thinking, "do I really want to put the kite up today?" Gee I'm glad I did. What a ride with the kite up. There was one point where I wondered if I really should be on the wire with the kite up without footstraps. A couple of seconds later my fear was confirmed. Footstraps behind the main beam will be added very soon.

The main I used is an experimental one Marcus has developed and unfortunately it kept jamming against the cut out in the track so I was limited in the amount of luff tension i could get. This made going upwind exciting when some of those gusts really hit to be sure.

Obviously i have lots of work to do to remember how to steer again after spending 12 months at the front of an yvonne, and tacking and gybing are going to need lots of practice, but overall i am one very happy customer.

Ok here are some photos. Fire away.

From First Sail On Blade #405
Posted By: Rolf_Nilsen

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 01:32 PM

Congratulations! Looks like you had a blast. Nice boat, nice weather and you survived <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Cool graphics on the side!

Are you happy?
Posted By: Rolf_Nilsen

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 01:44 PM

Oh, and I loved the mainsail construction!
Posted By: simonp

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 01:57 PM

Thanks Rolf. Yes I am very happy. The weather was great. Don't think I will need that drysuit afterall <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> I really want to go out again tomorrow, unfortunately 25-30 knots is being forecast. My wife designed the graphics and we are really pleased how it came out.

Regarding the mainsail, yeah I think it looks pretty cool, and it was certainly working hard in those gusts today. You'll have to ask Marcus about the specifics about the construction though, I don't really understand that stuff.
Posted By: Tornado_ALIVE

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 02:08 PM

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Took the Blade out for it's first sail today. Weather in Victor today was about 26 degrees C and about 12-15 knots blowing offshore, which means gusty and very flat water.

Despite a few teething problems like remembering how to leave beach on an offshore day with me on the boat and not dragging behind it, I finally got it going. Heading out to sea boat wanted to really wild thing, which had me thinking, "do I really want to put the kite up today?" Gee I'm glad I did. What a ride with the kite up. There was one point where I wondered if I really should be on the wire with the kite up without footstraps. A couple of seconds later my fear was confirmed. Footstraps behind the main beam will be added very soon.

The main I used is an experimental one Marcus has developed and unfortunately it kept jamming against the cut out in the track so I was limited in the amount of luff tension i could get. This made going upwind exciting when some of those gusts really hit to be sure.

Obviously i have lots of work to do to remember how to steer again after spending 12 months at the front of an yvonne, and tacking and gybing are going to need lots of practice, but overall i am one very happy customer.

Ok here are some photos. Fire away. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

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Good thing there is no min crew weight in the F16 class.
Posted By: Rolf_Nilsen

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 02:10 PM

You will need that drysuit when you come to the F16 worlds/GC here in Norway in 20xx <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Here is a picture of a lucky man. I am not too certain about who is in control here, man or boat <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
(Just envious of you and trying to make you feel bad as a way of equalizing things <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Following pics show that you recovered in excellent style ). Hope there will be more pictures and reports!

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Posted By: Marcus F16

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 02:35 PM

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Thanks Rolf. Yes I am very happy. The weather was great. Don't think I will need that drysuit afterall <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> I really want to go out again tomorrow, unfortunately 25-30 knots is being forecast. My wife designed the graphics and we are really pleased how it came out.

Regarding the mainsail, yeah I think it looks pretty cool, and it was certainly working hard in those gusts today. You'll have to ask Marcus about the specifics about the construction though, I don't really understand that stuff.


ofcourse simon is happy....

Clo took the photo's...

I baby sat ( multi tasking!) <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Simon got to play with the new toy.
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Posted By: Wouter

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 03:05 PM



... and it pops right out !!!

Limited downhaul ? Ohh, you'll want to fix that !

Setting the spi ? ALWYAYS !

Actually, the spi makes the boat better behaved in challenging conditions. In my experience the F16's are more dive happy without a spi. It sounds contradictionary but it is true.

Adn when all hell breaks loose, set the spi and pin yourself against the rearbeam with you butt on the luff hull steering the boat by the tillers (not the tiller extension) and follow that big piece of cloth in front of the boat. As long as you can remain there near the mainbeam (and not luff up to violantly) you'll survive.


Congrats with your new boat and the best of enjoyment with it !

Wouter
Posted By: Wouter

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 03:08 PM



That mainsail is a tape-drive right ?

3D shaping of the mainsail, that sort of thing ?

I think Marcus is on to something here. His sail at the GC 2007 was really light and withstood the abuse of GC 2007 perfectly. A pitty that the shape and luff curve wasn't really there yet but when it is then I expect it to be an excellent F16 sail. Lightweight, strong, good looking and with a good shape. Less weight up top the better right !

Wouter
Posted By: Wouter

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 03:09 PM



Okay guys,

Which one of the two has the coolest hat !

Baby or Marcus ?

Wouter
Posted By: Rolf_Nilsen

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 03:13 PM

I think the baby needs a shave <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />:D

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As long as you can remain there near the mainbeam (and not luff up to violantly) you'll survive.

Surely you ment to write rearbeam in the above quote?
Posted By: scooby_simon

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 03:26 PM

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Took the Blade out for it's first sail today. Weather in Victor today was about 26 degrees C and about 12-15 knots blowing offshore, which means gusty and very flat water.

Despite a few teething problems like remembering how to leave beach on an offshore day with me on the boat and not dragging behind it, I finally got it going. Heading out to sea boat wanted to really wild thing, which had me thinking, "do I really want to put the kite up today?" Gee I'm glad I did. What a ride with the kite up. There was one point where I wondered if I really should be on the wire with the kite up without footstraps. A couple of seconds later my fear was confirmed. Footstraps behind the main beam will be added very soon.

The main I used is an experimental one Marcus has developed and unfortunately it kept jamming against the cut out in the track so I was limited in the amount of luff tension i could get. This made going upwind exciting when some of those gusts really hit to be sure.

Obviously i have lots of work to do to remember how to steer again after spending 12 months at the front of an yvonne, and tacking and gybing are going to need lots of practice, but overall i am one very happy customer.

Ok here are some photos. Fire away. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

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Good thing there is no min crew weight in the F16 class.


Indeed; I was sailing with my 7 year old son a week or so ago.

Hopefully he'll want to crew (for about a year then he'll want his own boat!!!)
Posted By: Rolf_Nilsen

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 03:29 PM

I'll count myself lucky if I get to crew for my girls.
Posted By: JJ_

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 04:10 PM

Now wait! After the discussions about hull abuse, the first thing spotted is a Blade on the sand!? Oh, where are my beach wheels!? Where is my weighted buoy! Where is the outrage!?

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Posted By: Rolf_Nilsen

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 07:17 PM

So the boats are more durable than you thought. When are you getting one of these? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: isvflorin

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 09:02 PM

Congrats Simon <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> ,
The boat looks amazing, hope she takes good care of you and the other way around. The pictures are also poster worthy.

Man that thing looks good... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: simonp

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 10:15 PM

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... and it pops right out !!!


yeah, i wasn't nervous one bit. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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Limited downhaul ? Ohh, you'll want to fix that !


yeah the new main will have slightly longer luff and leach which will take care of the problem. for the moment we have a work around that will get the job done. We put a 8:1 downhaul system on it too which may need to get beefed up a bit. It was designed so that is is a pretty simple process to add a 2:1 on top of the 8:1, which should be plenty of purchase

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Setting the spi ? ALWYAYS !

Actually, the spi makes the boat better behaved in challenging conditions. In my experience the F16's are more dive happy without a spi. It sounds contradictionary but it is true.

Adn when all hell breaks loose, set the spi and pin yourself against the rearbeam with you butt on the luff hull steering the boat by the tillers (not the tiller extension) and follow that big piece of cloth in front of the boat. As long as you can remain there near the mainbeam (and not luff up to violantly) you'll survive.



I'm pretty sure you mean rearbeam, and yes that is the technique i resorted too. just didn't want to seem too conservative (you know testosterone pumping and all). What was interesting was, easing the spinnaker slightly as the nose starts to dive just pulls the bow back up so easily, I was nervous about doing this because the last boat I sailed that technique would have had you swimming very quickly.
Posted By: simonp

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 10:19 PM

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It sounds contradictionary but it is true.


Wow Wouter, your English is amazing if you are using a one of these books for your spelling. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: simonp

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 10:31 PM

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Now wait! After the discussions about hull abuse, the first thing spotted is a Blade on the sand!? Oh, where are my beach wheels!? Where is my weighted buoy! Where is the outrage!?

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Hull abuse. Hardly. Because i didn't want to sail up the beach I sailed really slow towards the beach, pulled the boards out way too early, pulled the rudders up. and the boat stopped moving forward altogether. So I thought no problem I should be able to reach the bottom here and jumped off. I was wrong! So I had to swim the boat in. Thank goodness the hulls don't actually provide much drag. And while the air temperature might have been 26degrees C, the water was much less. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> The boat then came in on a wave, when the water went back out to sea you have the photo above.
Posted By: ratherbsailing

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/13/08 11:01 PM

Nice Boat Simon. Bugger have to go back and redesign color for my new spinnaker.You should come up to Adelaide and do some racing Start is at 1pm on the next 2 Saturdays.
So Victor has now 3 x Blades (2 New) 1 x Taipan, Coverted A and the occasional Viper or has Marcus got himself a boat making that 4 Blades?
Posted By: JJ_

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/14/08 04:04 AM

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So I had to swim the boat in.


A dedicated sailor! I am jealous.

And that is very nice decal artwork, for sure. Congrats. I am saying a prayer for your boat that you sail many happy years with no hull worries! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: simonp

Re: First Sail On New Blade - with photos - 09/14/08 05:29 AM

I'm just glad the camera was already away. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: simonp

Blade Art - 09/14/08 11:44 AM

I have been playing with my gps i got for my birthday (thanks Mum!) and discovered a new art form.
From Drop Box
Posted By: hobiegary

Re: Blade Art - 09/14/08 03:05 PM

GPS track art:

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http://www.theworldismycanvas.com/

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Posted By: simonp

Re: Blade Art - 09/14/08 09:36 PM

ok that's just showing off!
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Blade Art - 09/15/08 08:20 AM

Hi Simon,

congrats, the boat looks great. Trapezing with spinnaker on your first time out is certainly showing your ability, I am sure you will be feeling comfortable with the boat very soon.

A word of advice if I may. In the nose dive photo's, it looked a bit like your mainsail may have been eased a bit too much by either sheet or traveller. This is what tends to cause the nosedive, as you bear away with the increase in speed on trapeze, the head of the mainsail starts to attach flow or slightly oversheet, which drives the bows down. If conditions are at risk of overpowering, I find it best to sheet the main in firm so it completly stalls, so the deeper you drive away under spinnaker the less the main has effect. It is slower between gusts than having the main set correctly, but if you are on trap it is the only way I have found to survive most bear aways, not all of them though <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />. Footstrap on the back corner is a must as you know.

Look forward to sailing against you one day. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: simonp

Solo gybing with the Spi question - 09/15/08 08:32 AM

Thanks for the advice Gary,

next question, where do you hide the third arm on the upwind legs or what technique do you use during while gybing with the kite up? how do you not let out too much sheet, steer and pull the new sheet on at the right time? Any secrets anyone wants to share?

Simon
Posted By: Wouter

Re: Solo gybing with the Spi question - 09/15/08 09:37 AM



Gybing with spinnaker :

Totally forget about sheeting the main, just make sure you keep good speed through the manouvre and let the main gybe itself. Just keep the spi tight and pulling in the initial stages of the gybe (sheet out only a little to compensate for the changing apparent wind), then let go in mid-gybe and quickly grap the new sheet and move over to the new hull pulling the new sheet behind you. The turn of the boat is never stopped everything is one smooth motion. The following stuff happens : you start to luff up and the main gybes itself, you turn around sit down and pull in the spi and get it drawing; then you look for the proper course again.

Like this you can gybe very quickly. I think some people also place their knee on the old spi sheet when grabbing the new spi sheet to prevent the spi from flapping.

Wouter
Posted By: becjm

Re: Solo gybing with the Spi question - 09/15/08 09:57 AM

What was the model gps you got?
Boat looks gr8
Cheers Ben
Posted By: simonp

Re: Solo gybing with the Spi question - 09/15/08 11:56 AM

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I think some people also place their knee on the old spi sheet when grabbing the new spi sheet to prevent the spi from flapping.


that might work, I'll give it a shot this weekend. One of my problems was letting the sheet go out too much and then there is lots to pull in. It basically felt slow as the spinnaker wrapped around the forestay. The critics on the beach (ie Marcus) confirmed it was slow and ugly. It has been suggested holding the original sheet with my teeth and bring the new sheet over with my hands. Not sure my dentist would be impressed, but hey if it's good enough for Bundock.

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What was the model gps you got?

Velocitek SC-1, still learning how to use it but it has some nice features and big numbers. Haven't worked out where to put it though. This weekend I tied it to the boom, which meant that I can only see it from starboard tack. Another option is to attach it to the spinnaker pole half way between the forestay and mainbeam.
Posted By: scooby_simon

Re: Solo gybing with the Spi question - 09/15/08 12:04 PM

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Thanks for the advice Gary,

next question, where do you hide the third arm on the upwind legs or what technique do you use during while gybing with the kite up? how do you not let out too much sheet, steer and pull the new sheet on at the right time? Any secrets anyone wants to share?

Simon


the 3rd hand is used for waving at all the boats you passed going down wind.

I use the following method.

1, Come in from the wire (if on it) and gather up what will become the new sheet; hold this in the same hand as the current sheet.
2, let out a "bit" of the current sheet as you start the gybe
3, continue on a smooth arc and move across the tramp.
4, You now have to drop the tiller for a second having passed it around the back of the mainsail
5, Pick up tiller
6, now this is the bit I do differently, I KEEP the tiller in the same hand as it was (so now I am facing across the boat looking outwards, I then let go of the old sheet and pull the new one in
7, change sheet hands and turn around.
8, get the kite driving and heading in the right direction
9, back out on the wire if it's the right thing to do.
Posted By: Anonymous

Re: Solo gybing with the Spi question - 09/16/08 09:57 AM

Hi Simon,

I think I do similar to what Wouter describes. It realy depends on the wind strength and what your priorities are. When it's heavy I let the old sheet go as I gybe and just concentrate on getting across the boat and steering back down as the boom comes over, then pull in all the new sheet. When conditions are lighter I grab the new sheet as far forward as possible and take it across the boat with me which pulls alot of it in.

But don't worry too much, what works best for you will come with time, but if you are having trouble getting spin wrapped around the forestay, I think I would ease more sheet before the gybe. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: angrydragon1676

Re: Solo gybing with the Spi question - 09/18/08 10:04 PM

Boat looks great Simon.
I will have to come down sometime in the season and take some pics on the water.

Ben, another gps that is good is the garmin fortrex201. It is a wristwatch type unit which can be strapped to your boom. When I had my Mossie I had one on each side of the boom. The cost of these are about half of the Simon is using.

Chris Dean
Posted By: becjm

Re: Solo gybing with the Spi question - 09/19/08 11:46 AM

Thanks Chris'
I actually got the fortrex 201 for fathers day. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Will take it out tomorrow
Cheers ben
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