thanx pirate for your advise ill try a few things first next time we sail I have raked the mast forward by a shackle loosend the tention by a bit but guess what haven't raced for 3 weeks as for 2 weeks no wind at all 3rd week end was blowing a gale so haven't bean able to try it out yet to see if makes any diffrents yet lol ill just try one thing at a time to start of with I might try putting the mast vertical again &just loosen the tention a bit see what happens thanx again pirate merry xmas