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#108681 - 05/30/07 08:29 AM JPOR  
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Friday practice anyone?

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#108682 - 05/30/07 11:40 AM Re: JPOR [Re: fin.]  
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Friday practice anyone?


That is the current plan. I will be there late morning pulling boats down and trying to get in a little sail if possible.

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#108683 - 05/30/07 11:41 AM Re: JPOR [Re: Matt M]  
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Expect between 1 and 2.

There is a little problem with the party Friday night. The restaurant closed.

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#108684 - 05/31/07 09:35 PM Re: JPOR [Re: fin.]  
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It hasn't rained in what, a month? So of course the forecast for JPOR is rain on Saturday, clearing on Sunday... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />


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#108685 - 06/01/07 06:57 AM Re: JPOR [Re: fin.]  
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5 Blades pre-registered!! Sweeeeet. We want pictures. Ed


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#108686 - 06/02/07 08:27 PM Re: JPOR [Re: LuckyDuck]  
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Well, the only pictures you might see are the ones I will be sending to my insurance company. We had a squal line come through Friday night and flip three Blades over. My starboard hull took a big hit, Matt's mast folded but Pete's boat was ok. The regatta was re-scheduled to Sept. due to Tropical Storm Barry, the very high surf, the comittee boats couldn't get out of the inlet and I doubt if any of us could have got off the beach without being destroyed.


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#108687 - 06/02/07 08:38 PM Re: JPOR [Re: Timbo]  
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That sucks!! And you only had the boat for a week! My HT almost went flying at Lake Pont regatta (was flying a hull 4 feet up even after being tied to the trees)

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#108688 - 06/03/07 03:15 AM Re: JPOR [Re: Timbo]  
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Well, the only pictures you might see are the ones I will be sending to my insurance company. We had a squal line come through Friday night and flip three Blades over. My starboard hull took a big hit, Matt's mast folded but Pete's boat was ok. The regatta was re-scheduled to Sept. due to Tropical Storm Barry, the very high surf, the comittee boats couldn't get out of the inlet and I doubt if any of us could have got off the beach without being destroyed.


That's bad news, how many tie down points did you have ?


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#108689 - 06/03/07 06:08 AM Re: JPOR [Re: scooby_simon]  
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#108690 - 06/03/07 07:07 AM Re: JPOR [Re: Timbo]  
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Well in that case; tough.

If you leave your boat somewhere it must be tied down. I have 4 long screw thread type pegs (about 3 feet long) that I screw into the ground.

One is directly under the back beam, one under the mast step and one each side of the boat. Boat gets tied down to each of these.


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#108691 - 06/03/07 07:12 AM Re: JPOR [Re: scooby_simon]  
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Yes, I know, and I'm still kicking myself in the nuts for not tieing it down or waiting 'till morning to put up the mast.


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#108692 - 06/03/07 07:53 AM Re: JPOR [Re: Timbo]  
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I haven't found them (but haven't looked too hard) for those anchors that screw into the ground like for a dog lease or something like that. If one is put in the ground right under the dolphin striker then tied to that I think it would work well. I don't think the forces on the dolphin striker would be too intense given the angles to make it so that the anchor would have to be really dug in. If no anchor is available I try to put the boat near trees so I can try to tie the trap lines to the trees with small sections of line.
My (your old) HT took a tumble on the beach here early on when I didn't tie it down and it broke a diamond wire (one of the reasons why I am still impressed with the Riba mast on that boat- it didn't break the mast, just the diamond wire). The guy that owns the land I keep my boat on had his HT up on saw horses to trim the rudders and forgot about it. Squall came through (wouldn't take much) and it flipped his boat around and put a 1 ft hole in the transom which he repaired very nicely. It took him a little time to discover that the mast had also been cracked which was luckily a relatively easy fix.

Tim- I hope you can get your boat fixed up soon. If I weren't 9 hours away I would offer to help fix it. It sucks when stuff like that happens but I actually somewhat like trying to fix it. Given how new the boat is I would probably go professional though. One thing I am not in a hurry to learn is gelcoating.

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I haven't found them (but haven't looked too hard) for those anchors that screw into the ground like for a dog lease or something like that. If one is put in the ground right under the dolphin striker then tied to that I think it would work well. I don't think the forces on the dolphin striker would be too intense given the angles to make it so that the anchor would have to be really dug in. If no anchor is available I try to put the boat near trees so I can try to tie the trap lines to the trees with small sections of line.
My (your old) HT took a tumble on the beach here early on when I didn't tie it down and it broke a diamond wire (one of the reasons why I am still impressed with the Riba mast on that boat- it didn't break the mast, just the diamond wire). The guy that owns the land I keep my boat on had his HT up on saw horses to trim the rudders and forgot about it. Squall came through (wouldn't take much) and it flipped his boat around and put a 1 ft hole in the transom which he repaired very nicely. It took him a little time to discover that the mast had also been cracked which was luckily a relatively easy fix.

Tim- I hope you can get your boat fixed up soon. If I weren't 9 hours away I would offer to help fix it. It sucks when stuff like that happens but I actually somewhat like trying to fix it. Given how new the boat is I would probably go professional though. One thing I am not in a hurry to learn is gelcoating.


I've a boat tied down to 2 of these go for a fly in a big storm; I now always use 4.

When I am travelling I aim to tru and tie the boat to 2 trailers, or my trailer and something else, or even my trailer and the tow bar of the car.


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#108694 - 06/03/07 08:06 AM Re: JPOR [Re: PTP]  
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The boat is at Vectorworks awaiting the insurance man and a new starboard hull. I have a 7 day trip to Bombay tomorrow so I won't be using it anyway.

On the tie down thing, it was very soft sand so you would have to dig quite a way down to get solid mass, a simple dog screw wouldn't grab enough I think. What I have come up with, after a long drive home, is two 5 gallon bucketts and a small shovel, I can use them to wash the boat on arrival, then burry one on each side of the boat and tie the trap handles to the bucket handles to keep the boat in place. It will be a pain to un-dig them after the regatta but not as much pain as a flipped boat.

The worst part of course is listening to my wife say, "I told you to buy a jet ski..."

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#108695 - 06/03/07 08:21 AM Re: JPOR [Re: Timbo]  
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Tim,

I use Hurricane anchors...they can be had at Home Depot or Lowes for about $10. They are VERY LONG and take FOREVER to screw them in .... but I doubt they'd come up easily.


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#108696 - 06/03/07 08:27 AM Re: JPOR [Re: Timbo]  
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The boat is at Vectorworks awaiting the insurance man and a new starboard hull. I have a 7 day trip to Bombay tomorrow so I won't be using it anyway.

On the tie down thing, it was very soft sand so you would have to dig quite a way down to get solid mass, a simple dog screw wouldn't grab enough I think. What I have come up with, after a long drive home, is two 5 gallon bucketts and a small shovel, I can use them to wash the boat on arrival, then burry one on each side of the boat and tie the trap handles to the bucket handles to keep the boat in place. It will be a pain to un-dig them after the regatta but not as much pain as a flipped boat.

The worst part of course is listening to my wife say, "I told you to buy a jet ski..."


That is another good idea.

part of the kit I take with me are 2 large tyres for this reason;

Dig a big hole in the sand, bury them and then tie the boat to them.


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#108697 - 06/03/07 08:49 AM Re: JPOR [Re: scooby_simon]  
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1 meter long by 12cm wide planks buried in snow have tremendous holding power. Perhaps something to test if you are in need of a quick fix (not in the snow, but the sand).
Dont kick yourself too hard, we all mess up now and then, but you will never go into this particular trap again. Hope you get to use the boat soon!

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The worst part of course is listening to my wife say, "I told you to buy a jet ski..."


grounds for divorce!

#108699 - 06/03/07 10:03 AM Re: JPOR [Re: PTP]  
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Oh, we've both given each other plenty of reasons, but neither of us wants the 4 kids... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />


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#108700 - 06/03/07 10:27 AM Re: JPOR [Re: Timbo]  
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Is the hull that bad that it can't be repaired?

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