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Re: Fly on the Wall at the F16 Global Challenge [Re: Gina_M] #114374
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Hi phill i have emailed you and have not received a reply
whats happening ??
Regards Richard

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Hey Phill,

so Day 2 looks like it had some major action. I am guessing wind picked up as the day went on, what happened to marcus etc.

Have you seen the Viper yet, is it realy bigger than the Blade?

Appreciate your efforts in photo's and communication, it will keep me going until Sat. when I can get out on my Blade <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.

Hope we are not being to demanding. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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Wind and waves picked up steadily throughout the day, but the waves never reached Monday's levels. No sailing today as the forecast strong winds have kicked in and the surf looks mean.

Here's a link to the earlier video in WMV format - apparently some people had trouble with the other link:

http://www.formula16.org/videos/zandvoort1.wmv

Paul

Re: Fly on the Wall at the F16 Global Challenge [Re: pdwarren] #114377
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Any results from the first 2 days ? Can only find one race on the website !


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The link to the day 2 results has both days. Scroll down for races 3-5.

http://www.f16worlds.zandvoortonline.com/results.htm

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Hey Paul & Anne

That is such a cool video, definately should be posted on YouTube. Have a good time and say hello to all the Brits for me. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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Scooby I'm surprised your boat and Marks Stealth are not down around the lower levels on weight, my older Stealth No 506 is definately on the limits if not under in single handed mode <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Re: Fly on the Wall at the F16 Global Challenge [Re: waynemarlow] #114381
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Scooby I'm surprised your boat and Marks Stealth are not down around the lower levels on weight, my older Stealth No 506 is definately on the limits if not under in single handed mode <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />


That is why I'm interested in what the measurment numbers come out at.

Mine (and Mark's) should be close to 104; Mine should be slightly lighter than Mark's because of the carbon beams; but I've been fecking around with it and so not by much.

I also assume that Hans's boat will be down to 104 as it's got a carbon mast.



I'd just really like to know what the numbers are from Zandvoort.


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No Viper yet.

Tuesday


I arrived at the beach after the committee boats had left the beach to set the course
to find John and Paul with their front beam off the boat. Paul had decided to tighten up the
platform following the rough conditions of the previous days and stripped one of the beam bolts.
Peit Saarberg had run off to get a hellicoil to get the boat back on the water. As soon as he arrive back
John , Paul, Greg and Piet all worked together to ready the boat to try and make the first start.
But it was not to be, in their haste to get through the surf they
flipped and just couldn't get there in time.

Race 3 started at 11:15 am.
So race 3 started without them in a southly breese of around 12 knots.
Unlike yesterday this breese lacked the westerly component that really picks up the seas.

Wouter port satrted and crossed the whole fleet.
Matt & Bart were smokin' upwind and made it to the top mark in time to do a 360 and still stay in the lead.
Approaching the top mark while in second Paul & Anne went for a big nose dive over the bows.
Their acrobatics handed second place to Gill and Kathlene followed by Martien & Frank then Hans, Marcus and Wouter.


Wouter was taken out of the picture flipping on the downwind while Geert & Karin made it past Martien and Frank,
On the 3rd loop Hans got caught of the anchor line to the clearance mark and almost capsizes and
took quite some time to get free allowing Marcus, Paul& Anne and Martien & Frank past.

The finishing order was Matt & Bart, Gill & Kathlene, Marcus, Paul & Anne, Martien & Frank then Hans.


Race 4
The boats get away to a clean start over the line and work their way towards the shore and straight
away Hans establishes a lead followed by Matt & Bart then Marcus and the remainder of the fleet
is grouped close behind. Marcus failed to finish the race after tearing his spinnaker when the
spinnaker sheet got caught under the boat. He retired to the beach with his racing finished for the day.

During the course of the race Martien and Frank dropped their mast when the shackle holding the side stay
came undone.
By now the off shore breese very rapidly turned them into a dot on the horizon. The coast guard took
off after them and I went with Frank Boon to the Coast Guard headquarters to find out if both crew and skipper
were onboard and OK.
So all I can give is the top few boats at the finish which were Matt & Hans, Gill and Kathlene,John and Paul
then Paul and Anne.


Race 5
By now the breese had risen a knot ot two and the seas were begining to rise a little. Still the race got underway
At the first rounding of the windward we had Hans, Gill and Kathlene, Matt and Bart,Paul and Anne all
converging on the mark.
Hans was the first one around followed by Matt & Bart, Gill & Kathlene then Paul and Anne.
THings seemed a little hectic on the boat of Paul and Anne, first with one of them being taken off the boat
but still attached via the trap and then trying to make up for lost time they stick it in big time flipping
over the bows so hard they stuck their mast into the sand and this made righting rather difficult.

Just after the clearance mark was rounded Matt & Bart flipped but they still managed to get the boat to
finish in 3rd place.

The finishing order of the 5th race was Gil & Kathlene, Hans, Matt & Bart, John & Paul then Mark.

For those who believe that post by sailwave about Mark drinking more sea water than bear.
I can assure you that Mark is doing his best to keep a balance. To that end, the first thing Mark did
when he hit the beach was to go off to find a liquid lunch.

The Bar-B-Que that followed later that evening was great.
You were given 8 plastic chips and a wrist band. The wrist band was for the food and the chips for drinks.
The food was great and as people left they would give their unused chips away.
Towards the end of the night we had a table with myself,Geert, Marcus, Paul, Anne, Gill, Kathlene, Matt, Bart,
John, & PaUL and Mark and all the remaining chips from everyone else that attended the function on the table
and were doing our utmost to work our way through them. Several of us jumped up to drinking spirits like Rum
and JD to aid the cause of working our way through the chips. Alass around midnight still with a pile of chips
in front of us they through us out.

It was great to sit around and talk and drink and talk and drink- in fact if they hadn't wanted to close and
the chips held out we'd probably still be there.

No sailing today- the wind has blown the dog off the chain and is now trying to blow the chain away and the seas
are huge.

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There is no such thing as a quick fix and I've never had free lunch!

Re: Fly on the Wall at the F16 Global Challenge [Re: phill] #114383
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Wednesday

The forecast for the day - force 5 to force 7 from the west.
Which meant strong wind, big seas, and no sailing.

At least no sailing on the wet stuff.

Some people used the time to tinker a little more with their boats.
Some went into Amsterdam and others, thanks to Wouter, had a go at land sailing.

Here is a pic of Paul Alani trying to run down a fool with a camera.

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I know that the voices in my head aint real,
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There is no such thing as a quick fix and I've never had free lunch!

Re: Fly on the Wall at the F16 Global Challenge [Re: phill] #114384
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http://www.zvnoordwijk.nl/wedstrijd/weer/Current_Vantage_Pro.html

This is the actual weather situation at Noordwijk (close to Zandvoort). 23 knots of wind at 9.41 in the morning. You can guess the rest.
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Isn't it time now to lift the well kept secrets in boat tuning and things the crews tinkered with before and at this event?
Close up photos from the different boats would be nice to see.


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If you'd come to the (close to you) event, you'd be able to see the boats for yourself.......... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Close to me is relative with the distance of 500km. Nothing i can do in the lunch time. But I guess this topic is of interest to others, someone has to ask first...


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Still blowin' like stink and so its landyachting.

Mark showed us just how its done.

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Looks like fun. Hope you don't wear out Wouters tyres !

One year when we had the Hurricane 5.9 euro's at Texel (Paal 15 just down the beach from Texel beach) it blew all week.

The Nacra and Prindle Euro's were at the Texel beach and they too were not racing. We ended up racing pedal cars around Texel as we needed some racing. It get vicious !


Fingers crossed you get out tomorrow.


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I'd really like to hear from Hans. How is he managing so well?

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I'd really like to hear from Hans. How is he managing so well?


Maybe he's a good sailor ?

If it's as lumpy as it sounds, maybe a bit of local knowledge / sanitization to the conditions have also helped. If you sail in conditions day in / day out then they don't feel abnormal.


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Ya' think?

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On a side note while we are waiting for the seas to moderate:-
Some background on the Matt and Bart team.

Matt came to the event without a crew and Wouter lined up a fellow Delft Uni colleague to sail the week with MAtt.
Bart had just finished the dart 18 nationals and with many years of Dart 18 experience
jumped at a chance to sail an F16.

According to Bart, by comparison, the speed of the F16 is awesome. Sailing with Matt has also added to the
excitment with 5 capsizes in two days of racing.
The first capsize was when going around the clearance mark in the first race. Too much pressure in the sails
and the boat went over sideways. Matt went out the back and Bart ended up on the main pulling the bolt rope from
the mast causing a retirement.

In the second race they capsized up wind during the execution of a roll tack.
The newly formed team's timimg was a bit out and they were hit by a huge wave that sent them over.
They righted the boat quite quickly and rounded the top mark in 3rd place.
The same race on the second downwind, with the kite up, they went into the back of a wave and went over the bows.

On the third race they managed to get their capsize in whie practicing before the race.
I suposed given their form as a team to date it would pay to practice capsizing. The practice was not
needed in this race as they got through unscave to be first over the line in race 3.

The fourth race was uneventful apart from their win.

In the fifth race downwind they managed another flip. Bart has never used a kite on a
cat before, and especially given the conditions , this really is a batsism by fire for him.

Despite the flip they managed to take 3rd in the fifth race.

The conditions are rough, they are pushing it to the limit and hencefore they are doing more than their
fair share of swimming but it is paying off as they are sitting in second place.

Even without taking to the water Matt is still practising his capsizes.


The breese seems to have eased a bit and if the seas moderate we may get some more sailing in today.

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