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OZ Widcat regatta Run and Won. #119000
10/02/07 06:27 AM
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Hi all,

Just back from HUGE long weekend at the Wildcat Regatta Forster. Aprox 70 cats attended in all, biggest fleets where Hobie 16’s, A’s and Taipans. I was the only F16 racing for the first time on the Formula Catamarans Australia Blade, in the fast mixed fleet consisting of 4 F18’s, 3 Cat Rig Taipans, Tornado, Super Taipan & Nacra5.8. All classes sailed windward and return courses around the same buoys, keeping your eyes open was important, for other boats and the shallow water and weed. Two days, 3 races where sailed in gusty winds of aprox 25 kts. coming off the hills, not the normal wind direction according to the locals. One day 3 races sailed in max of 15 kts. from the ocean side.

The high lights where in order, leading the fleet round the first mark in race 4, after holding out the Super Taipan all the way up the first beat after starting lowest on the line. Placing first over the line after battling with the Nacra Infusion F18 for 2 laps in race 5. Having my first capsizes in race 6 with gusts estimated to 30 kts.? But most of all placing Second in the mixed division on Yardstick, with the F16 of 71 and F18 of 70 it was only the Super Taipan and Tornado that gave me much time, so most races my over the line placing was much the same as my Yardstick result, with mainly Fourths and a First and Second.

The Nacra F18 Infusion won my div. with a more consistent performance than any other boat in the div. finishing every race near the front. Full results and pics to come, when they are sent through. The music till 2am and the 12 hour plus drive home has finished me off, time for bed.

Have attached a photo of the local wildlife, outside the club showers.

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Re: OZ Widcat regatta Run and Won. [Re: ] #119001
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Gary,

Well done. Great result for F16 in your first regatta with the new Blade. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> Did the Blade generate allot of interest ?

From your description of the 1st beat in race 4 it sounds like the Blade points like an "A" class cat. Is that true ? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

Can't wait to see the pics.

Hope to see you at Somers with the Blade sometime soon.

Regards,

Peter


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Having my first capsizes in race 6 with gusts estimated to 30 kts.?


So you bought a few boxes of beers eh?

Re: OZ Widcat regatta Run and Won. [Re: ] #119003
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Would you give us a quick run down on the JPOR results, please?

Thank you.

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Would you give us a quick run down on the JPOR results, please?

Thank you.


JPOR Results 1Design.net

Re: OZ Widcat regatta Run and Won. [Re: ] #119005
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Out of curiosity, what was the 1.02 correction for on Chris Stater?

And you guys are happy using the 1-up numbers?

(couldn't help myself Tad :-))

Re: OZ Widcat regatta Run and Won. [Re: Peter_Foulsum] #119006
10/02/07 08:38 PM
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Hi Peter,

yes lots of people looked at the boat and commented on quality of build especialy for the first boat and how good the Graphics look. Spent lots of time answering questions and explaining that it is Australian designed and built, many thought it was imported.

Hope to be at Somers soon, but no promises, tell Tornado Dave that many said hello.

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Hi DUH,

no beer bought I am to poor <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />. Besides there where many other capsizes most caught on tape, the Capricorn would have been buying if anybody did. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Re: OZ Widcat regatta Run and Won. [Re: ] #119008
10/03/07 11:40 AM
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The 1.02 is the multiplier used to remove the spin from the DPN.

Chris ran 1-up no spin.

66 * 1.02 = 67.32 (beaufort 4)

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Re: OZ Widcat regatta Run and Won. [Re: David Ingram] #119009
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Oh I see, they just used the DPN modification. I was looking at the wind-dependent mods, since they had used those for the base ratings. Thanks.

Re: OZ Widcat regatta Run and Won. [Re: ] #119010
10/05/07 05:02 AM
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Hi all,

sorry to get back on thread <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />, but I have attached copy of results with elapsed times etc. Just scroll down to Misc 2 for individual heats.

Oops as usual file is the wrong format. Won't work as attachment. I will try another way.

Misc 2 Fleet
Sailed:6, Discards:1, To count:5, Ratings:VY, Entries:11, Scoring system:My scoring system Rank Class SailNo Helm Crew R1 R2 R3 R4 R5 R6 R7 Total Nett
1st F18 7 B. Nissen D. Nissen 4.0 (12.0 DNC) 1.0 2.0 2.0 1.0 22.0 10.0
2nd F 16 400 G. Maskell (7.0) 2.0 4.0 4.0 1.0 4.0 22.0 15.0
3rd Taipan 5.7 300 M.Griffith G.Lynch 2.0 1.0 3.0 3.0 8.0 OCS (9.0 DNF) 26.0 17.0
4th F18 60 C.Brewin R.Brewin 1.0 (12.0 DNC) 2.0 1.0 8.0 OCS 9.0 DNF 33.0 21.0
5th Taipan 4.9 Cat 175 P. Freeman 3.0 7.0 7.0 5.0 3.0 (9.0 DNF) 34.0 25.0
7th Taipan 4.9 Cat 139 G. Tuck 5.0 (8.0) 8.0 8.0 4.0 2.0 35.0 27.0
6th Taipan 4.9 Cat 35 R.Steyer 6.0 3.0 5.0 7.0 5.0 (9.0 DNF) 35.0 26.0
8th Tornado spin 295 I Simpson G. Sawyer (11.0 DNF) 6.0 6.0 6.0 6.0 3.0 38.0 27.0
9th HF18 Hobie Tiger F18 Sloop spi 1893 K. Amadis E. Amadis (9.0) 4.0 9.0 9.0 8.0 9.0 DNF 48.0 39.0
10th HF18 Hobie Tiger F18 Sloop spi 1981 J.Ogilvie C.Webb 10.0 5.0 10.0 11.0 (12.0 DNC) 12.0 DNC 60.0 48.0
11th Nacra 5.8 1340 H.Zeeman G.Payne 8.0 (12.0 DNC) 11.0 DSQ 10.0 7.0 12.0 DNC 60.0 48.0

R1 - Misc 2 Fleet
Rank Class SailNo Helm Crew Elapsed Corrected Nett
1 F18 60 C.Brewin R.Brewin 0.39.45 0.56.47 1.0
2 Taipan 5.7 300 M.Griffith G.Lynch 0.40.04 0.59.21 2.0
3 Taipan 4.9 Cat 175 P. Freeman 0.47.36 1.02.13 3.0
4 F18 7 B. Nissen D. Nissen 0.45.00 1.04.17 4.0
5 Taipan 4.9 Cat 139 G. Tuck 0.49.35 1.04.49 5.0
6 Taipan 4.9 Cat 35 R.Steyer 0.49.41 1.04.57 6.0
7 F 16 400 G. Maskell 0.49.38 1.09.54 7.0
8 Nacra 5.8 1340 H.Zeeman G.Payne 0.57.30 1.19.52 8.0
9 HF18 Hobie Tiger F18 Sloop spi 1893 K. Amadis E. Amadis 0.50.53 1.20.08 9.0
10 HF18 Hobie Tiger F18 Sloop spi 1981 J.Ogilvie C.Webb 0.54.12 1.25.21 10.0
11 Tornado spin 295 I Simpson G. Sawyer DNF 11.0

R2 - Misc 2 Fleet
Rank Class SailNo Helm Crew Elapsed Corrected Nett
1 Taipan 5.7 300 M.Griffith G.Lynch 0.17.07 0.25.21 1.0
2 F 16 400 G. Maskell 0.19.47 0.27.52 2.0
3 Taipan 4.9 Cat 35 R.Steyer 0.21.55 0.28.39 3.0
4 HF18 Hobie Tiger F18 Sloop spi 1893 K. Amadis E. Amadis 0.18.42 0.29.27 4.0
5 HF18 Hobie Tiger F18 Sloop spi 1981 J.Ogilvie C.Webb 0.18.49 0.29.38 5.0
6 Tornado spin 295 I Simpson G. Sawyer 0.19.30 0.30.00 6.0
7 Taipan 4.9 Cat 175 P. Freeman 0.24.59 0.32.39 7.0
8 Taipan 4.9 Cat 139 G. Tuck 0.25.19 0.33.06 8.0

R3 - Misc 2 Fleet
Rank Class SailNo Helm Crew Elapsed Corrected Nett
1 F18 7 B. Nissen D. Nissen 0.55.52 1.19.49 1.0
2 F18 60 C.Brewin R.Brewin 0.56.36 1.20.51 2.0
3 Taipan 5.7 300 M.Griffith G.Lynch 0.54.52 1.21.17 3.0
4 F 16 400 G. Maskell 0.58.59 1.23.05 4.0
5 Taipan 4.9 Cat 35 R.Steyer 1.08.15 1.29.13 5.0
6 Tornado spin 295 I Simpson G. Sawyer 0.58.04 1.29.20 6.0
7 Taipan 4.9 Cat 175 P. Freeman 1.08.57 1.30.08 7.0
8 Taipan 4.9 Cat 139 G. Tuck 1.09.19 1.30.37 8.0
9 HF18 Hobie Tiger F18 Sloop spi 1893 K. Amadis E. Amadis 1.08.06 1.47.15 9.0
10 HF18 Hobie Tiger F18 Sloop spi 1981 J.Ogilvie C.Webb 1.14.34 1.57.26 10.0
11 Nacra 5.8 1340 H.Zeeman G.Payne DSQ 11.0

R4 - Misc 2 Fleet
Rank Class SailNo Helm Crew Elapsed Corrected Nett
1 F18 60 C.Brewin R.Brewin 0.35.04 0.50.06 1.0
2 F18 7 B. Nissen D. Nissen 0.35.19 0.50.27 2.0
3 Taipan 5.7 300 M.Griffith G.Lynch 0.34.21 0.50.53 3.0
4 F 16 400 G. Maskell 0.36.30 0.51.25 4.0
5 Taipan 4.9 Cat 175 P. Freeman 0.42.36 0.55.41 5.0
6 Tornado spin 295 I Simpson G. Sawyer 0.36.12 0.55.42 6.0
7 Taipan 4.9 Cat 35 R.Steyer 0.42.49 0.55.58 7.0
8 Taipan 4.9 Cat 139 G. Tuck 0.43.30 0.56.52 8.0
9 HF18 Hobie Tiger F18 Sloop spi 1893 K. Amadis E. Amadis 0.39.25 1.02.04 9.0
10 Nacra 5.8 1340 H.Zeeman G.Payne 0.45.24 1.03.03 10.0
11 HF18 Hobie Tiger F18 Sloop spi 1981 J.Ogilvie C.Webb 0.44.00 1.09.17 11.0

R5 - Misc 2 Fleet
Rank Class SailNo Helm Crew Elapsed Corrected Nett
1 F 16 400 G. Maskell 0.38.25 0.54.06 1.0
2 F18 7 B. Nissen D. Nissen 0.39.00 0.55.43 2.0
3 Taipan 4.9 Cat 175 P. Freeman 0.44.34 0.58.15 3.0
4 Taipan 4.9 Cat 139 G. Tuck 0.45.06 0.58.57 4.0
5 Taipan 4.9 Cat 35 R.Steyer 0.45.37 0.59.38 5.0
6 Tornado spin 295 I Simpson G. Sawyer 0.41.48 1.04.18 6.0
7 Nacra 5.8 1340 H.Zeeman G.Payne 0.47.06 1.05.25 7.0
8 Taipan 5.7 300 M.Griffith G.Lynch OCS 8.0
8 F18 60 C.Brewin R.Brewin OCS 8.0
8 HF18 Hobie Tiger F18 Sloop spi 1893 K. Amadis E. Amadis 0.46.06 1.12.36 8.0

R6 - Misc 2 Fleet
Rank Class SailNo Helm Crew Elapsed Corrected Nett
1 F18 7 B. Nissen D. Nissen 0.49.18 1.10.26 1.0
2 Taipan 4.9 Cat 139 G. Tuck 0.54.11 1.10.50 2.0
3 Tornado spin 295 I Simpson G. Sawyer 0.47.12 1.12.37 3.0
4 F 16 400 G. Maskell 0.59.54 1.24.22 4.0
5 Taipan 5.7 300 M.Griffith G.Lynch DNF 9.0
5 F18 60 C.Brewin R.Brewin DNF 9.0
5 Taipan 4.9 Cat 175 P. Freeman DNF 9.0
5 Taipan 4.9 Cat 35 R.Steyer DNF 9.0
5 HF18 Hobie Tiger F18 Sloop spi 1893 K. Amadis E. Amadis DNF 9.0

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Re: OZ Widcat regatta Run and Won. [Re: ] #119011
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Here's a short excerpt from the DVD of the Wildcat regatta, showing Gary on his Blade.





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Re: OZ Widcat regatta Run and Won. [Re: Tim_Mozzie] #119012
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Not intending to hijack the thread or anything, just out of quriosity, how did the super-taipan compare pure speed-wise to the other boats, especially the Tornado?

That blade sure is one sexy boat, looks very fast!

Re: OZ Widcat regatta Run and Won. [Re: jimi] #119013
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I have raced the Super Taipan and I can tell you it is very quick. In 15 knots and under, the Big T does not stand a chance. Over 15 and the T closes the gap. On my first race on it, I ran it low and fast on the first upwind and lost a lot of ground to the Tornadoes and F18s. Caught up to the back of the F18s on the downwind with the Tornado 1/3 of a leg upwind. As we rounded the bottom mark sailed straight under throgh the lee of several F18s, cranked on the main tighter and tighter whilst pointing higher and gained hight on the F18s. The boat started to point like an A Class but with more speed. We quickley caught and past The Tornado racing the same lines and sent it very deep downwind.

The Super Taipan displays excellent speed and hight upwind, whilsy sailes much deeper then the Tornado with the same speed downwind.

By the way, nice Capricorn nosedive on that DVD


Re: OZ Widcat regatta Run and Won. [Re: Tim_Mozzie] #119014
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Overtaking an A-cat on a reach.

We are getting there, we are getting there !

Wouter


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Re: OZ Widcat regatta Run and Won. [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #119015
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So why do you think this is? Besides from the T's bigger length and the Super Taipans lighter weight the boats are quite similar..

Re: OZ Widcat regatta Run and Won. [Re: Wouter] #119016
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Overtaking an A-cat on a reach.

We are getting there, we are getting there !

Wouter


Where? We are not watching the same vid or being opportunistic in analysis of 5 secs. The A to me is coming in on the layline, the Blade to me looks as though it has overstood and is reaching in. I wasn't at this regatta this year, but correct me if I am wrong (competitors this year at Forster please provide this info), but normally in the past there aren't any reaches at Forster, it is all w/l's the ones I have sailed at.

If you overstand, then reaching in like that you will be faster. But that does mean the Blade should have been ahead, but did they have same start, which lap etc etc. Can't draw anything from a 5 sec vid but say, "I wish I was there"...

Re: OZ Widcat regatta Run and Won. [Re: taipanfc] #119017
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I was at Forster this year and it was one of the best of the last 25 years. Taipanfc is spot on with his surmising about the clip. The complete DVD is great and well done by the Wildcat organisors. I was in the race and just behind that part of the clip. No reaches - all W/L's and Stevie Brewin on the A was coming up to the windward mark on the layline. The Blade had overlaid the mark and was footing in. Incidentally, the Blade was in a different start group from the A's and was a lap behind as they started later. It's a great looking boat and very well built. I believe it is futile to make too many comparisons with A's as it's different concept of boat with a totally different sail plan. I don't think Gary will ever suggest that he could beat Stevie on a beam reach with the main only. Anyway, the Blade is a lovely boat and certainly a step forward from the ex-Purple Helmet A he modified to be an F16. It was an ex-AHPC prototype and a bit of a dog downwind in A format. I sailed it in a Victrian State Titles and it was great upwind and off the pace downhill - bit of nostalgia there!

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Thanks for the report John, and welcome to the forum!

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Hi all,

sorry I wasn't around to answer Wouters exuberance myself, yes I had overlayed mark and after a capsize and my division starting 5 minutes behind the A, I was a lap down.

But it was nice to be caught on camera at speed <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />. Probably the best part of that race for me, I estimated it gusted to 30kts. Some bits of the video show a F18 Capricorn cartwheeling then getting blown around whilst capsized. Also a A class getting nearly lifted out of the water upwind <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />.

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