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F33 has been launched #15710
01/24/03 10:24 AM
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Ian has posted pics of the new F33 on the fboat site. This is one awesome boat.

thom

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Re: F33 has been launched [Re: thom] #15711
01/30/03 10:36 AM
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Asuncion, Paraguay
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Beautiful boat!

I liked especially the tilt back daggerboard style rudder - this could become a future standard for multis (and high speed monos), if light enough.

The design is conservative, keeping most of the old (tried and proved) features of the F-boats. This is a comercially adequate choice, given the market segment they are aimed for - cruising.

I also noticed the following technical improvements:

- Float's center of flotation moved forward
- Float's deck flush with the hull and more rounded
- No recess for the beams
- Only professional building allowed
- Less exposed upper struts

The 5 new features are shared with the Catris and some of them also with other modern tris, so I assume the F-Boats are being designed with a more modern view.

The changes are atributable to the natural evolution of the concept - but very probably to the competition too. It is clear that the f-boat design is improving in the right direction.

This is all good news: competition benefits the consumers - us!

Cheers,


Luiz
Re: F33 has been launched [Re: Luiz] #15712
02/16/03 03:09 AM
02/16/03 03:09 AM
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australia
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the f-33 looks like a great boat (i saw it yesterday for the firs time i realy like those beams) light and power full, but there was not much difference in speed/performace wen i was along side it with my f-28R the winds were about 15-20knotes some gusts too 25 i got up 18knots on the screacher run
i would love too see the boat with spinaker going
i think it could all so do with a bigger mast
but i still looks like a great exiting boat

regards kurt
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Re: F33 has been launched [Re: taipan029] #15713
02/18/03 08:29 AM
02/18/03 08:29 AM
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The 33 is obviously intended to be a fast cruiser, so it is not necessarily expected to outperform your F28R. If you are looking for performance, the Catri (my boat) should interest you.

Cheers


Luiz
Re: F33 has been launched [Re: taipan029] #15714
02/25/03 02:14 AM
02/25/03 02:14 AM
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Kurt

Do you think the taller 'R' mast would improve things (assuming the first boat doesn't have it)?


Simon Manning A Class NZL230.........boats are for life...
Re: F33 has been launched [Re: simonm] #15715
02/25/03 04:29 AM
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im shure that it would ,and i think the st(supa tri) vesion
wich has a taller rig and is much lighter would make it alot faster
www.f-boat.com


regards kurt
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Re: F33 has been launched [Re: taipan029] #15716
02/26/03 01:57 AM
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That's what I figured. Well regardless it looks great and it's a shame that our kiwi 'pesos' will mean the boat isn't likely to be a goer for import nor the demand here to justify a local build - I'm hanging out for the unpainted maximum-DIY hulls-and-beams pricing!

cheers


Simon Manning A Class NZL230.........boats are for life...
Re: F33 has been launched [Re: taipan029] #15717
09/11/03 08:35 PM
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Luiz,

Those foils at the end of your Catri's amas, do they perform well even when kelp is around?

Sigi

Re: F33 has been launched [Re: Sigi] #15718
09/24/03 03:37 PM
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Sigi,

This was the first question the oldest and most experienced multihull sailor in Brazil asked when I first showed him my dream boat. All fins are potential kelp-catchers and more fins = more kelp to get read of...

To date, none of the Catri owners I am in touch with complained about kelp or debris catched by the ama's foils. I guess the problem is minimized because the foils are swept-back and/or because the ama's foils are designed to go in and out of the water in higher speeds.

Anyway, I think the cross of the rudder blade with its foils is a stronger candidate to catch kelp - but the rudder is also easier to clean.

There is another risk as well - solid debris in high speed. I was informed that the guys in San Francisco exceeded 30 knots, so I started worrying and asked the builder in Brazil his opinion.

He told me not to worry at all and that a worker once fell very heavily over one ama transom, the foil geting all the load. The worker broke his leg, but both the foil and the foil/ama seam remained unscratched.

Cheers,
Luiz


Luiz

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