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OKay here it is the Beta version of the rules #1971
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OKay here it is the Beta version of the rules !
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<br>http://www.geocities.com/f16htclass/F16HP_class_rules_finalized.html
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<br>I'm sure that it contains quite a few misspellings and vague wordings so could you all check it out and help me getting it just right.
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<br>If tried to satisfy as much of the earlier objections as I could.
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<br>Stewart : PBA are not included in the boxrule anymore but in the rules for running an F16HP event. Okay ?
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<br>Kirt : All grandfathered boats are out of the official F16HP fleet and will be put into the Open F16HP fleet on a temporary basis. Now we can be more flexible and forgiving when grnadfathering in designs without opening ourselfs up for a inside attack.
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<br>Everybody : No weights are used in the weight equalization system just a few groups with different but standardized jib and genaker sizes. Cheapest solution with respect to fairness.
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<br>John : Texel is the default system and a growth path to higher performance is incorporated.
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<br>And so on and on.
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<br>You see guys all those polls were not for nothing and I'm very glad that the bulk of working through this heap of information has been done.
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<br>Now I'm going to read Frank Bethwaites book I received over the mail just now.
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<br>See you in 24 hours when we finalized to rules.
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<br>Wouter<br><br>

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Re: OKay here it is the Beta version of the rules [Re: Wouter] #1972
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<br>I am more than happy with all the rules, the only one I would query is rigging and equipment, do we really need this rule, I think there is a possibility for increased performance at no extra cost and do not see any benifit in putting the rule in, (the A cats don't have it)
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<br>Other than that I think the formula is superb and will be very succesfull
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<br>John P<br><br>

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Re: OKay here it is the Beta version of the rules [Re: john p] #1973
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Im also wondering about the rule..<br><br>

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Please elaborate on the rule you mean [Re: john p] #1974
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John,
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<br>Is it the non-adjustment rule of the standing rigging except the diamondwires your talking about ?
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<br>What will be your counter proposal ?
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<br>BTW, did you read Macca 's comment on cats and 18 foot skiffs. I certainly want to see it with my own eyes but wouldn't it be just perfect if F16 HP can beat 18 foot skiffs too.
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<br>This can well mean that F16 HP is very near to the fastest sailing boat classes in the world (excluding speedrecord specialized one-offs) With only the New Tornado, M20, iF20 and CFR as direct competitors. And the numbers of these craft are near to those of the F16 HP. Not bead hehh for a 16 !
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<br>Yes, I also think that we have something special here.
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<br>Anyways, Please elaborate and see if the rules can be changed.
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<br>Wouter
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Re: Please elaborate on the rule you mean [Re: Wouter] #1975
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what is a CRF?<br><br>

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CFR. a 20 ft all carbon US cat design by Randy ?. [Re: Stewart] #1976
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CFR. a 20 ft all carbon US cat design by Randy ?.
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<br>I forgot his sir name.
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<br>Boat is much like the M20, I don't know wether the CFR has a jib or not
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<br>Wouter<br><br>

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Re: Please elaborate on the rule you mean [Re: Wouter] #1977
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<br>The rule beginning 'it is not permitted to adjust : the rake of the mast, the tension of the standing rigging, the angle or length of the spreaders other than etc. etc.
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<br>I think we should just delete this rule as it is restrictive for no real benefit.
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<br>john<br><br>

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