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Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: wildtsail] #208618 04/16/10 09:25 AM 04/16/10 09:25 AM
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram Carpal Tunnel
David Ingram Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA	Originally Posted by wildtsail When sailing downwind with your spinnaker and your bow stuffs hard, like up to crossbeam, presuming your crew is locked in on the wire... what should be done with the spinnaker... should it be blown to reduce momentum? OR held tight to hopefully lift the bows? OR is it too late to do anything and just cross your fingers? We've tried the first two and found about the same success rate but i'm leaning towards the idea of staying trimmed in... any other methods? How about trimming the spinnaker in to reduce flow but still keep generating lift? Drive better. David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar "Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"

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Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: David Ingram] #208626 04/16/10 09:39 AM 04/16/10 09:39 AM
Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 756 Newport, RI wildtsail OP old hand
wildtsail OP old hand Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 756 Newport, RI	Well we rolled your butt at Steeplechase while stuffing very frequently. I have to agree with Karl that easing the traveler would make it worse.

Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: wildtsail] #208629 04/16/10 09:46 AM 04/16/10 09:46 AM
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Team_Cat_Fever Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,221 Roanoke Island ,N.C.	Originally Posted by wildtsail I have to agree with Karl that easing the traveler would make it worse. On an N20, you'd be wrong. "I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!" The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White

Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #208632 04/16/10 09:49 AM 04/16/10 09:49 AM
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Team_Cat_Fever Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,221 Roanoke Island ,N.C.	Ding will you please go back to spanking the punk's butt so we don't have to listen to him. Quit cutting the Jr. team slack. "I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!" The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White

Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: wildtsail] #208634 04/16/10 09:56 AM 04/16/10 09:56 AM
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram Carpal Tunnel
David Ingram Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA	Originally Posted by wildtsail Well we rolled your butt at Steeplechase while stuffing very frequently. Oh the shame of it all getting rolled by the Todd's on the same day how will I get on with my life. Refresh my memory, where did you guys end up that weekend? And don't be a little bitch and whine about the redress. David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar "Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"

Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: David Ingram] #208636 04/16/10 09:58 AM 04/16/10 09:58 AM
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Team_Cat_Fever Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,221 Roanoke Island ,N.C.	I told you all ready, I don't pick on you anymore and I'm truly offended that you lump me into the same category as "The Punk". It's not my fault his mom named him after me, then he fell horribly short of that benchmark. I think I deserve an apology from you and his parents. "I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!" The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White

Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: Timbo] #208637 04/16/10 10:09 AM 04/16/10 10:09 AM
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PTP Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,921 Michigan	that boat was going over no matter what. when someone is in front of the forestay the game is over and if you are the one still at the back of the boat pick your exit strategy. Unless clipped into a chicken line I would think it would be pretty impossible to trim in the spin when you stuff it because all your effort is in not flying forward when the boat slows down so much and by trimming the spin in you will be pulling yourself further forward. Timbo- on a blade when you stuff you are toast- especially if you are solo and can't drop the trav- very unlikely to come back from that. The N20 is more forgiving and when you stuff you can save it especially if you've got a fat bastard at the back of the boat. Last edited by PTP; 04/16/10 10:10 AM.

Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: PTP] #208640 04/16/10 10:11 AM 04/16/10 10:11 AM
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ThunderMuffin Carpal Tunnel T Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,655 Portland, Maine	Quote you can save it especially if you've got a fat bastard at the back of the boat. Really dude. I read these forums you know. You can refer to me by name at least

Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: PTP] #208641 04/16/10 10:12 AM 04/16/10 10:12 AM
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mikekrantz old hand Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 706	We've stiffed the F18, so hard that I flew around the forestay, landed on the leeward hull, unclipped from the trap, scooted across the tramp, re-clipped in, sheeted in, and kept going...

Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: mikekrantz] #208643 04/16/10 10:14 AM 04/16/10 10:14 AM
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PTP Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,921 Michigan	Originally Posted by mikekrantz We've stiffed the F18, so hard that I flew around the forestay, landed on the leeward hull, unclipped from the trap, scooted across the tramp, re-clipped in, sheeted in, and kept going... now, that is impressive... however, one would think, even still, that that was much more luck than skill

Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: ThunderMuffin] #208645 04/16/10 10:14 AM 04/16/10 10:14 AM
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PTP Carpal Tunnel Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,921 Michigan	Originally Posted by Undecided Quote you can save it especially if you've got a fat bastard at the back of the boat. Really dude. I read these forums you know. You can refer to me by name at least well, now, what if I have my very OWN fat bastard!

Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: PTP] #208646 04/16/10 10:15 AM 04/16/10 10:15 AM
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pgp Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,525	He prolly borrowed Jake's cape. Pete Pollard Blade 702 'When you have a lot of things to do, it's best to get your nap out of the way first.

Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: PTP] #208647 04/16/10 10:15 AM 04/16/10 10:15 AM
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ThunderMuffin Carpal Tunnel T Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 3,655 Portland, Maine	Originally Posted by PTP Originally Posted by mikekrantz We've stiffed the F18, so hard that I flew around the forestay, landed on the leeward hull, unclipped from the trap, scooted across the tramp, re-clipped in, sheeted in, and kept going... now, that is impressive... however, one would think, even still, that that was much more luck than skill I donno man Have you seen Mike's moustasche? Thats skill embodiment right there.

Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: mikekrantz] #208649 04/16/10 10:17 AM 04/16/10 10:17 AM
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Team_Cat_Fever Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,221 Roanoke Island ,N.C.	Originally Posted by mikekrantz We've stiffed the F18, so hard that I flew around the forestay, landed on the leeward hull, unclipped from the trap, scooted across the tramp, re-clipped in, sheeted in, and kept going... Chris Ford did that on my P-19, acted as if it was S.O.P. and kept on trimming. He's the man.Your alright too, Mike. "I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!" The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White

Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: PTP] #208651 04/16/10 10:18 AM 04/16/10 10:18 AM
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Team_Cat_Fever Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,221 Roanoke Island ,N.C.	Originally Posted by PTP Originally Posted by Undecided Quote you can save it especially if you've got a fat bastard at the back of the boat. Really dude. I read these forums you know. You can refer to me by name at least well, now, what if I have my very OWN fat bastard! And your's ACTUALLY Sails. "I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!" The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White

Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #208654 04/16/10 10:21 AM 04/16/10 10:21 AM
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram Carpal Tunnel
David Ingram Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA	Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever I told you all ready, I don't pick on you anymore and I'm truly offended that you lump me into the same category as "The Punk". It's not my fault his mom named him after me, then he fell horribly short of that benchmark. I think I deserve an apology from you and his parents. You know Todd when you're right you're right, I was out of line you are in a class all by yourself. David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar "Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"

Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: David Ingram] #208655 04/16/10 10:24 AM 04/16/10 10:24 AM
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Team_Cat_Fever Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,221 Roanoke Island ,N.C.	Thanks Ding, your a class act. "I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!" The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White

Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #208657 04/16/10 10:26 AM 04/16/10 10:26 AM
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Team_Cat_Fever Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,221 Roanoke Island ,N.C.	I've gotta get a job. I just looked at my post count. "I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!" The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White

Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #208661 04/16/10 10:36 AM 04/16/10 10:36 AM
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ksurfer2 old hand K Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,152 tampa, fl	Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever I've gotta get a job. I just looked at my post count. and we're still waiting for something insightfull. If your havin girl problems i feel bad for you son I got 99 problems but my beautiful wife ain't one

Re: What do you do when your bow stuffs? [Re: wildtsail] #208666 04/16/10 10:55 AM 04/16/10 10:55 AM
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brucat Carpal Tunnel B Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,946	Todd, I don't know how many times to tell you this, come back to the H16. Then you only have two options and your life will be much easier: If your crew weight is under 400 lbs, you'll never stuff it to the crossbar, you'll be swimming before it ever goes that far. If your crew weight is over 400 lbs, let everything out and hang on to the rear corner, you'll probably save it. Mike

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