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Re: America's Cup Cascais Coverage [Re: Todd_Sails] #236163
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Originally Posted by Just Todd
Americas Cup match race, and you're over early?


'em boats are quick and don't stop well...those monohull guys (the ones without much multi-hull time) are learning a thing or two.


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Re: America's Cup Cascais Coverage [Re: Jake] #236164
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They're gorgeous too! This is a paradigm shift, I hope.

I emailed a link to one of the local TV stations, maybe they'll take a look.


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Re: America's Cup Cascais Coverage [Re: pgp] #236165
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The boundary is only an obstruction for 3 boat lengths, China was more than 3 boat lengths away an so normal port/starboard rule in effect.

Re: America's Cup Cascais Coverage [Re: hobiephil] #236168
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I liked yesterday's match racing more than today's. It was closer.

Re: America's Cup Cascais Coverage [Re: Dan_Delave] #236172
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what is that tail sticking up at off the rear beam of each catamaran?

Re: America's Cup Cascais Coverage [Re: ] #236173
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I think that's one of the onboard cameras.


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Re: America's Cup Cascais Coverage [Re: ] #236179
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Originally Posted by MN3
what is that tail sticking up at off the rear beam of each catamaran?


It is a communication pod. In addition to housing a high resolution GPS receiver, I believe it houses the antennae to communicate with race committee (the digital data variety), video and audio, and also supports a forward looking tilt/pan/zoom camera.



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cool, thanks.

Re: America's Cup Cascais Coverage [Re: ] #236183
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWlYMxm1mTM&feature=player_detailpage

Man, four hours of sail porn. say goodnight, Gracie!


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Re: America's Cup Cascais Coverage [Re: waterbug_wpb] #236185
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hey, why does team China's jib look like it's cut differently than everyone elses (especially Oracle 4&5)?


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Re: America's Cup Cascais Coverage [Re: waterbug_wpb] #236186
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'Cause they picked the wrong one for the conditions and didn't have time to switch. Part of the learning curve.


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Re: America's Cup Cascais Coverage [Re: waterbug_wpb] #236190
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
hey, why does team China's jib look like it's cut differently than everyone elses (especially Oracle 4&5)?


I think Oracle 4&5 are using North's 3Di sails. (all fiber and resin, with no membrane)


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Re: America's Cup Cascais Coverage [Re: lesburn1] #236192
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There are a few 3di sails there besides Oracles also.


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Re: America's Cup Cascais Coverage [Re: waterbug_wpb] #236202
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
hey, why does team China's jib look like it's cut differently than everyone elses (especially Oracle 4&5)?


I think the jibs and genoas are open to whatever they want to design...can anyone confirm?


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As long as it fits the rules:

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E.2. JIB
E.2.1. The Jib shall have a luff perpendicular no greater than 4.370 m.
E.2.2. The Jib shall have a three-quarter width (measured as a headsail) no greater than 41% of
luff perpendicular.
E.2.3. The Jib shall be fitted with no more than six battens.
(a) Battens shall be no closer than 0.250 m to each other at any point.
(b) Battens shall pass through a 0.055 m diameter circle.
(c) Battens may consist of multiple elements that need not necessarily be attached to
one another, provided the batten is fitted within a single, continuous batten pocket,
and provided the multi-element array complies with (b) above.
(d) Battens shall not have a permanent bend or set, within a tolerance of 0.050 m over
their entire length.
(e) Battens shall not be adjusted while the Jib is set.
(f) Battens shall not be inflatable.
(g) Batten pockets shall not exceed 0.120 m in width measured normal to the longitudinal
axis of the batten.
(h) Battens shall be oriented not less than 30 degrees to the local luff, with the centreline
of the batten projected to the luff if necessary
E.2.4. The Jib shall have a maximum head width no greater than 20% of luff perpendicular.
E.2.5. The Jib shall have no battens below a line joining points 1.000 m above the clew point and
1.000 m above the tack point.

Re: America's Cup Cascais Coverage [Re: Tony_F18] #236204
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http://www.americascup.com/en/Latest/Blog/2011/8/Morning-Briefing-110812/

Morning briefing:

Posted on 12 August 2011

Please refresh your browser to get the latest from Cascais...

1140 - Big news announcing partnership between YouTube and the 34th America's Cup. You'll be able to check out our new multi-stream player today.

1130 - Check out wing trim expert Dirk 'Cheese' de Ridder explain how the wing sail works.

1045 - And here are highlights from yesterday.

0940 - Check out these interviews from after racing yesterday...

Vasilij Zbogar, skipper, Green Comm Racing
Mitch Booth, skipper, China Team
Dean Barker, skipper, Emirates Team New Zealand
Terry Hutchinson, skipper, Artemis Racing

0930 - At his briefing with skippers this morning, Principal Race Officer John Craig told the teams he intends to run the full schedule of racing today - three fleet races, followed by three match races.

0835 - Check out Dean Barker talking about racing multihulls here.

0830 - First, let's start with the forecast: Northeasterly winds this morning will ease and give way to a building Northwesterly this afternoon.

At start time of 1410, the forecast is for patchy winds in the 7 to 10 knot range. But these will become more solid over the course of the afternoon, eventually building to 15-20 Northwesterlies by 1700.

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Re: America's Cup Cascais Coverage [Re: pgp] #236207
08/12/11 08:19 AM
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can someone remind me of the max speed last AC had in place? and what was the top speed (est) that was acheived racing (with these limits in place... not testing)

thanks

Re: America's Cup Cascais Coverage [Re: ] #236208
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I think maybe the monohull AC boats would get to 10 or 11 knots downwind?


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Re: America's Cup Cascais Coverage [Re: Jake] #236211
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how do I get YouTube to stream on my Vizio internet ready TV?

All I seem to have access to is Yahoo! apps crap (but not the internet browser itself)

I can't say how cool it is at the office with the 25Mbps pipe. I can watch the feed on the 50" flatscreen and it really looks like TV!

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Originally Posted by Jake
I think maybe the monohull AC boats would get to 10 or 11 knots downwind?


no i mean last AC with the cat and Tri. didn't they have a 15 knot limit and speeds around 40knots at that speed?

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