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#252350 - 09/15/12 07:12 AM Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: _flatlander_]  
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Originally Posted by _flatlander_
and what's the odds Hobie NA will sell more than fifty Hobie 16's in 2012? extremely small market indeed


I have people that come in looking for something. Everyone of them say the same thing. "Used to have a H-16 but don't want another."

They don't want plastic either.


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#252351 - 09/15/12 07:34 AM Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: catman]  
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What do you get AFTER a Hobie Wave amd remain singlehand, and do not want a H16, with a LOW price tag? (real old Acat?)
Doublehand, perhaps a Hobie 16 Tatoo? http://www.catsailor.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=234040#Post234040

#252352 - 09/15/12 07:48 AM Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: sail7seas]  
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Originally Posted by sail7seas
What do you get AFTER a Hobie Wave amd remain singlehand, and do not want a H16, with a LOW price tag?

Hobie 17. Best boat Hobie's ever made. Good ones sell for less than $4K.

#252354 - 09/15/12 12:31 PM Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: mbounds]  
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Matt, remind me to punch you in the seeds next weekend.
Thanks.


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#252355 - 09/15/12 12:40 PM Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: mbounds]  
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Originally Posted by mbounds
Originally Posted by sail7seas
What do you get AFTER a Hobie Wave amd remain singlehand, and do not want a H16, with a LOW price tag?

Hobie 17. Best boat Hobie's ever made. Good ones sell for less than $4K.

I cant tell if you are joking or serious.
Its a singlehander which weights a ton and is almost impossible to right unless you weight 200kgs.

#252356 - 09/15/12 01:46 PM Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: Karl_Brogger]  
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Matt, remind me to punch you in the seeds next weekend.
Thanks.

Obvious troll is obvious.

200 kgs? Um, no. I weigh 175 lbs (<80 kgs) and I have no trouble righting mine. Then again, my mast doesn't leak.

#252357 - 09/15/12 02:14 PM Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: mbounds]  
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Originally Posted by mbounds
Originally Posted by sail7seas
What do you get AFTER a Hobie Wave amd remain singlehand, and do not want a H16, with a LOW price tag?

Hobie 17. Best boat Hobie's ever made. Good ones sell for less than $4K.


Agree, got my last one for $1,800 with trailer. 2000 Sport in great shape.

#252358 - 09/15/12 07:12 PM Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: mbounds]  
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Originally Posted by mbounds
Originally Posted by sail7seas
What do you get AFTER a Hobie Wave amd remain singlehand, and do not want a H16, with a LOW price tag?

Hobie 17. Best boat Hobie's ever made. Good ones sell for less than $4K.


Ummm...nah....that boat is happier sitting in irons than any boat I've ever sailed. You should really try an A.


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#252359 - 09/15/12 09:33 PM Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: Jake]  
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Ummm...nah....that boat is happier sitting in irons than any boat I've ever sailed.

Word.


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#252361 - 09/15/12 10:27 PM Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: hobie1616]  
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Different boats for different folks. We have had three H-17's in our family, with three generations of Tarleton's racing them. Probably the best cat to sail in high winds. But what do we know, only been sailing them since 1986.

#252368 - 09/16/12 07:20 AM Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: Jake]  
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Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by mbounds
Originally Posted by sail7seas
What do you get AFTER a Hobie Wave amd remain singlehand, and do not want a H16, with a LOW price tag?

Hobie 17. Best boat Hobie's ever made. Good ones sell for less than $4K.


Ummm...nah....that boat is happier sitting in irons than any boat I've ever sailed. You should really try an A.

You obivously never sailed a Hobie 14 in any kind of a breeze. It's like mud wrestling with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig has fun.

On the Hobie 17:
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We choose to sail Hobie 17s. We choose to sail Hobie 17s in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win.


Famous speech I've heard before.

#252369 - 09/16/12 07:22 AM Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: H17cat]  
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Originally Posted by H17cat
Different boats for different folks. We have had three H-17's in our family, with three generations of Tarleton's racing them. Probably the best cat to sail in high winds. But what do we know, only been sailing them since 1986.


My H17 experience was limited to light to moderate breeze in a couple of regattas...so I can't speak for how it is to sail in breeze.


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#252370 - 09/16/12 07:30 AM Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: mbounds]  
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If you have never sailed an A Class you can take mine for a spin,you may change your mind.

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#252371 - 09/16/12 08:27 AM Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: mbounds]  
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Fred, set something down on your kitchen table. Anything. Now I want you to move it using only your mind. Let me know how that goes, then you can work up to easier things like changing Matt's mind about the H17.


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#252373 - 09/16/12 09:20 AM Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: mbounds]  
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Almost anything performs better dw than a H17


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#252374 - 09/16/12 09:35 AM Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: mbounds]  
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Originally Posted by mbounds
Originally Posted by sail7seas
What do you get AFTER a Hobie Wave amd remain singlehand, and do not want a H16, with a LOW price tag?

Hobie 17. Best boat Hobie's ever made. Good ones sell for less than $4K.


In Matt's defense he said "Best boat Hobie's ever made." Hobie has never made an A cat. Now if the question was "What's the best singlehanded cat out there?", I think hands down the answer would be "A cat".
You can also pick them up (decent ones like Boyer Mk3 and Mk4s) for 4-5k used.


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#252379 - 09/16/12 01:14 PM Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: pgp]  
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Originally Posted by pgp
Almost anything performs better dw than a H17

Which is why you mount a spinnaker on one and have a blast.

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One can only try.

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#252382 - 09/16/12 07:56 PM Re: Hobie Cat Company Acquires Hobie Cat Europe [Re: fredsmith]  
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One thing you might not wanna try is to sit down with Matt and Billy Whitehurst in a discussion regarding the opportunities for performance that live aboard the H 17. Good Gosh, Whitehurst uses running backs!

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Class legal?


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