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Re: Alter Cup Notice from USS [Re: RickWhite] #255087
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So I guess you've never watched an entire baseball game, or soccer game, or...the Vikings!

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Re: Alter Cup Notice from USS [Re: RickWhite] #255088
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Timbo, you beat me to it. There isn't a sport that I can stand to sit down and watch for a whole game, sometimes not more than 5-10 minutes. I'd much rather participate.

For me, that even filters down to race management. I'd much rather have a fleet of 80 boats, or better, multiple fleets to manage; rather than one small fleet. I know a lot of race officers and mark boat guys that get freaked out by that, LOL...

Mike

Re: Alter Cup Notice from USS [Re: brucat] #255089
11/21/12 09:33 AM
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umkay...how do we entice people to participate in the sport?

Like we've never discussed that question before (tongue planted firmly in cheek)...


Jay

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All our woes began with the demise of B fleet...


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Re: Alter Cup Notice from USS [Re: pgp] #255094
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I would venture a guess it started before then...

How many USS sailors are multihullers?

Any guess on how many NON-USS members are multihull racers in USA?

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Not less than 1,000 and probably closer to 1500 or 2,000.

If you just count paid members of the class associations you get 1,000.

If you add in casual racers, you'd approach 1500.

If you add big boats, you'd get closer to 2,000.

The percentage that convert to the multihull MPP membership is paltry.

I fully agree that we are destined to die a slow and painful death if we don't do something to bring in new blood. We have one or two class championships that are growing and all others are shrinking. Fleet sizes follow pretty closely, even if you include fun sailors.

Mike

Re: Alter Cup Notice from USS [Re: brucat] #255099
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So.... in answer to what does US sailing do for its members... not its customers..

Besides the things that Multihull sailors take for granted or dismiss... like Race Management training, and the Multihull Championship Committee, or the Olympic committee.

there is also a One Design organization.... who are doing this....

US Sailing's 2013 One-Design Symposium:
A Learning Experience
US Sailing's 2013 One-Design Symposium, presented by Gowrie Group, is coming to the Cleveland Yachting Club in Rocky River, Ohio on January 11-13. Enjoy more than 20 workshops and general sessions at this premier event for one-design class racing.

Workshop and presentation topics include:

Racing Rules and their tactical uses
Growing your class and staying strong
Go Fast Tips from experts
Best resources for your class, club or fleet
Attracting young adults
Regatta overview
Class Communications
Sponsorship, Digital Marketing, Brand Management
Successful Fleet Checklist

I will say it again.... it's a club... If you value one of the things the club is about..... you should support the Volunteers.

I would bet that your local club or YRA just can't pull together this kind of program...

I attended the Annapolis OD symposium and though it was spectacular... I even wrote up lots of notes and put them on cat sailor...

Take advantage of the offer!!

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11/21/12 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Schneider
So.... in answer to what does US sailing do for its members... not its customers..

Besides the things that Multihull sailors take for granted or dismiss... like Race Management training, and the Multihull Championship Committee, or the Olympic committee.

there is also a One Design organization.... who are doing this....

US Sailing's 2013 One-Design Symposium:
A Learning Experience
US Sailing's 2013 One-Design Symposium, presented by Gowrie Group, is coming to the Cleveland Yachting Club in Rocky River, Ohio on January 11-13. Enjoy more than 20 workshops and general sessions at this premier event for one-design class racing.

Workshop and presentation topics include:

Racing Rules and their tactical uses
Growing your class and staying strong
Go Fast Tips from experts
Best resources for your class, club or fleet
Attracting young adults
Regatta overview
Class Communications
Sponsorship, Digital Marketing, Brand Management
Successful Fleet Checklist

I will say it again.... it's a club... If you value one of the things the club is about..... you should support the Volunteers.

I would bet that your local club or YRA just can't pull together this kind of program...

I attended the Annapolis OD symposium and though it was spectacular... I even wrote up lots of notes and put them on cat sailor...

Take advantage of the offer!!


I've been involved with these since the one in Annapolis in 2005. They are well worth the time, but you have to do a couple of things to make it really worth it:

  • Be very open-minded - they will tell you to check attitudes at the door. It's OK to acknowledge your class, but don't wear it on your shoulder.
  • Don't hang out with your buddies - meet new people that have different ideas that just might work for your fleet / class.

I'll be co-presenting the "Class Communications" break out session with Laura Jeffers, the Executive Director of the Lightning Class.

Re: Alter Cup Notice from USS [Re: RickWhite] #255113
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Mark and Matt make excellent points here. As cat sailors, we have two direct paths to benefits through US Sailing: MRC and ODCC. There are others (Race Admin, Olympics, etc. for those interested).

Bottom line, you have to be extremely closed-minded to think there are no benefits (or, potential benefits) of US Sailing membership. You may need to seek them out, but they are there, waiting to be enjoyed.

Mike

Re: Alter Cup Notice from USS [Re: brucat] #255196
11/26/12 10:59 AM
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Ha! Not sure if that was intentional or not, but I clicked on "Olympic Path" from the USS web homepage and got

HTTP 404 Page Not Found.

Ironic? You be the judge


Jay

Re: Alter Cup Notice from USS [Re: waterbug_wpb] #255198
11/26/12 11:11 AM
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Also, if I renew my USS membership today, will it expire December 31 of this year, or will it expire December 2013?

I thought they were calendar year memberships...


Jay

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