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A catsailor looks at 60 #260795
06/29/13 02:28 PM
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Oh, how I love this sport! 40 years now, and it's still providing me relaxation, beauty, and the big time rush of fully powered up hull flying. It keeps me active and fit, and OUTSIDE! I'm so hoping I got at least another decade unmitigated glee aboard these exquisite machines.

But I have seen my energy level attenuate slowly these last couple of years, and I'm no longer driven to be on the water every free minute that there's breeze. I can now be temporarily satiated with a couple hour session out on the main lake in the morning, and maybe Dayton Bay run in the afternoon thermal, and possibly a book or a guitar in my hands, hanging on the porch in between.

So it may be time to thin the fleet some. Not only is there less energy for being aboard, I'm particularly conscious this year of the amount time and effort are being expended maintaining/modding six cats. I love the work, but would like to spend a bit less time doing it. And with retirement on the horizon, I will certainly have less cash to throw at this endeavor.

So, help me out guys. I'd like to find loving homes for one or more of these fine craft. It's gonna be a bitch to let go of any of them, they all do something supremely well, and I've been horribly spoiled to have so many boats sprinkled around the northwest, allowing me a fix at a moment's notice.

I've placed an ad here on catsailor, and will soon have more detailed descriptions and pics on thebeachcats.com

Stealth F16
Bimare F18HT
Supercat 20
'Flight Risk' custom 24' x 14' cat

I'll still have the ARC22 and one of the SC20s as a high wind tool, so I won't exactly be suffering. Ahhh, what a passion!

Dave

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Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: davefarmer] #261309
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I would be interested in the SC20 but you are too far away.


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Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: davefarmer] #261386
07/15/13 10:35 PM
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I'd love to have her go to you Craig, I consider you the king of the 20s. As a back up boat? I assume you have a functioning one now? Tall or std?

Dave

Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: davefarmer] #261400
07/16/13 10:01 AM
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I am 76 and coming up on 80 and still sailing and loving it. I did thin out the fleet a bit, however.


Rick White
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Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: davefarmer] #261440
07/16/13 10:51 PM
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Thanks Rick, that's encouraging! I'm hoping for more sailing and less maintaining.

Dave

Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: davefarmer] #261442
07/17/13 06:26 AM
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I will be 69 in September and I am still sailing beach cats and have been since the mid 70's, although I sold my Nacra 6.0 and bought an F18. I am still not sure if that was the right move

Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: davefarmer] #264102
09/18/13 12:13 AM
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How do you guys do it? Turned 60 in March and considering/ under pressure to sell the cat because i can't move the day after a decent sail or a race. Found out long term back pain is from having one leg 9mm shorter than the other and while exercises, stretches help, the soreness is putting me off taking to the water. Suggestions/exercise routines?

Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: Qb2] #264107
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I take a ton of nutrients daily, which helps. Told I needed two knee replacement over 15 years ago. But, found a nutrient called Hyaluronic Acid that is a natural lubricant for joints and still sailing and playing tennis 5 days a week. With natural knees.
For general pains I have a machine that you stand on and vibrates the entire body. In ten minutes it will increase heart rate by 50 beats. Mary has low oxygen blood levels and when using it increases it by 10 points.
For back pain you can't beat an inversion table. $99 at Walmart


Rick White
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Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: davefarmer] #264115
09/18/13 07:41 AM
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See a Dr. and get him to prescribe a physical therapist. The human machine is too complex to diagnose online.

Try yoga or at least a core exercise routine, not so much on the weights.


Pete Pollard
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'When you have a lot of things to do, it's best to get your nap out of the way first.

Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: davefarmer] #264212
09/18/13 11:14 PM
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Much thanks will investigate HA.I have to be careful as some yoga and core strength exercises set off the pain not ease it. I do variations of the yoga pigeon pose and sideways knee lifts lying down to help ease muscle tightness, particularly in the glutes. I take Rose hip capsules to keep the background muscular pain bearable and am investigating DMSO/Aloe gel and MSM to try to reduce general pain levels and improve cartilage regrowth. I see a muscular skeletal specialist next week so hope she will come up with an effective exercise regime. The ultimate aim is get back on trapeze without hurting or race without paying for it that night.

Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: davefarmer] #264233
09/19/13 08:52 AM
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See a Doctor! When you have pain your body is trying to tell you something.

fwiw, I messed up my knee and needed surgery. At the initial rehab eval. the PT went nuts! My right hamstring was just a mess, a tight contracted mess that wouldn't relax. I also had lots of lower back pain. A couple of weeks stretching out the ham string and the back pain is mostly gone.

I do get serious lower back pain after sailing the F16, I think it's from sitting on the hard hull. Stretching relieves that pain. However, when I sail a Weta, sitting on the tramp with my knees bent in a normal sitting position, no pain. Jus' sayin'...

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Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: davefarmer] #264256
09/19/13 09:55 AM
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Take after you have sailed, immediatly a heavy painkiller pill.

I was hooked on Vioxx, but its taken out the market because of the mortal rate.
The same manufacturer now has Arcoxia (take 90 mg pill). Its an N.S.A.I.D. and it works with me 36 hour/one pill.

No exercise needed!
In fact you are on an age where exercises can be as bad as the sport itself.

Accept that you are an old fool trying to do some sport and that you are overloading your body ("surcharge").
So what !!!!!!!!!!!! they have pills for that.

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Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: davefarmer] #264356
09/20/13 08:07 AM
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Just a few comments on aging and sailing,
I'm fast approaching 70 and like to think I'm still competitive, but I can't tack as fast and going to the wire takes a little more time.
The northsea junkie has got the right idea ,I take an Aleve before venturing out and it helps.I also use a steady exercise program of cycling, and gym work in the winter, to stay in moderate condition.
That said I race against an 84 year old in our fleet (6 A boats) who sets the standard in light air sailing here.

Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: fredsmith] #264494
09/21/13 07:19 AM
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1. After intense workout on Mountain bike or spa,
I take Glutamine. Found out about this basic amimo acid form a High School student at the spa,
apparently HS football players supplement of choice to mitigate the achy feeling the nest day... Google Glutamine.
2. After a tough day on the F16, I will get a pro message, and no or little achy the next day.
3. Like PEP said above listen to your body to avoid major damage.

Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: sail7seas] #264655
09/23/13 08:37 AM
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it would seem that conditioning becomes more important as I age. I get out of shape much faster. I've been lucky to avoid most sport injuries so hopefully my latter decades will be less painful than others..


Jay

Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: waterbug_wpb] #264672
09/23/13 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
it would seem that conditioning becomes more important as I age. I get out of shape much faster. I've been lucky to avoid most sport injuries so hopefully my latter decades will be less painful than others..


You suck. Quit gloating.


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Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #264684
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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
it would seem that conditioning becomes more important as I age. I get out of shape much faster. I've been lucky to avoid most sport injuries so hopefully my latter decades will be less painful than others..


You suck. Quit gloating.


nerd-type hermits do have their strong points.

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Jay

Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: pgp] #265094
09/25/13 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by pgp
Try yoga or at least a core exercise routine, not so much on the weights.


Yes, yoga is good.


Philip
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Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: davefarmer] #265612
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None of the women in my local Yoga class ever looked that trim n terrific.

Re: A catsailor looks at 60 [Re: davefarmer] #265614
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Several guys on this site practice yoga. Invest a little time learning about core exercise, being in good shape doesn't necessarily mean big muscles.


Pete Pollard
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