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1182 ......'Twice Shy' #266555
10/30/13 06:08 AM
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here we go again.... crazy

So how did I end up with this old girl .....

Well like most of you, I had it on my eBay watch list, and I had no intentions of actually bidding to buy, A closer look of the pics and a message to the owner said it was mostly good but in need of some TLC, a few missing parts which turned out to be the screws for the tramp and the rudder pins.....
Everything else is there grin

So its a late lunch and my phone does the buzz for an ebay item that's about to finish, have a look and its not moved in price since earlier in the morning...... oh what the hell, I'll chuck a couple of hundred at it and that should stir things up for the real bidders.....

submit bid..... congratulations your the highest bidder cool
yeah whatever..... back to lunch....
A few seconds later the phone does the buzz thing again, congratulations you've won the item..... huh confused

So in all honesty I never had any real intentions of becoming a duel mosquito owner but as fate would have it, I now am
laugh

but is that a good thing or not ????

pics from the add

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doesn't look too good does it cry

Oh well .......... SPARES FOR KARP grin

or is it ???

wink


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& now Mosquitos #1182 & #1740

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Re: 1182 [Re: Pirate] #266556
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Now its home and I've walked around it 20 odd times, its time to see just how bad things really are.....

20mins later and one hull has come up like new !!! laugh

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this was just a simple case of a light cut & polish, all up the hulls took about an hour an a bit to have gleaming in the late afternoon sun

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things are looking up
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Re: 1182 [Re: Pirate] #266557
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with the hulls basically gleaming in green sick
it was time to have a look at the mast, first job was to hose off all the bird shyte, then a gentle wipe-down with a scouring pad, then came the 800grit wet&dry paper followed by the alloy polish, all up ~2.5hours spent on cleaning up the mast
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Re: 1182 [Re: Pirate] #266558
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the boom is still work in progress

but its calf-shyte yellowish paint is only the top layer, a cool white lays under that followed by the dark green which matches the strip down the sides of the hull, then comes the alloy...
I hit the boom with 80grit paper on the belt sander and an hour later we had bare alloy again, I then hand blocked it back with 120grit then 180grit and finally with some 320 wet&dry paper, polishing is yet to come but so far its lookin good
(finished pic to come) wink

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Only other work required on the boom is to replace the shocky cord which has perished in a couple of spots but otherwise its done

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so while I'm sanding/polishing bits I notice a tad bit of movement in the hulls, a quick investigation soon finds the culprit, well actually lack there of eek

spot what's missing ????


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So 2 hours later and several scratches from jagged fibreglass shards, I'd replaced all the alloy blocks with 40mm wide X10mm thick and 60mmlong blocks of high-tensile alloy

these are what's left
NB: pic is as they were removed from the hulls as if you were at the stern .... so the top left is the front left and the bottom right is the rear right block.....
The 'larger' block 3rd in the top row is the one for the missing altogether mounting point in the pic in the above post

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Re: 1182 [Re: Pirate] #266561
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couple of close-ups....

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well that sucked.... but as per usual there's always an explanation ------> SILICONE mad
Some of you are probably well aware of the properties of silicone, it has ACID in it and the acid attacks alloy like crazy, someone in their infinite wisdom has used a non-neutral cure silicone and hence we have the ugly corrosion.
Don't belive me ????? duck down to the local panel-beaters and ask for a quote for a leaking windscreen, after you have that rough estimate tell them you siliconed it up a year ago, the quote WILL double instantly, silicone is BAD news if you don't use the right one for the specific application.....

I hear crickets......
everyone must have gone to the shed to see what type of silicone they used to seal that stainless fitting to the alloy mast...
I hope your not too late, relax, the stainless fitting will be fine, the rest tho.....
shocked


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Re: 1182 [Re: Pirate] #266562
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one more...

you can actually see the silicone in this pic and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see where the corrosion has come from...

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tired



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Kingy
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What about KARP you ask......
Well I'm still working away on the hull finish, but being so damn fussy meant I wasn't about to get on the water before January or Febuary at best, so as its turned out I should have 1182 ready in a week or so all going to plan on what I've found thus far, and yes there's still one or two more uglies to fix but more on those as I get to them.

1182 also offers me a cheap platform to try things out, the TredGrip I spoke about in the "non-skid: gunwale" thread
http://www.catsailor.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=265005#Post265005
will be one of the first things I trial, if it works to the level I want then it will make KARP's gunwales, I have a few other things to tryout so with this boat I get the chance to play without burning the "good boat" so to speak

As to 1182's future ???
A new name was the first thing, Mistral is GONE so please welcome "TWICE SHY" to the fold smile
mozzie related and combined with the old saying....
Once bitten TWICE SHY and then theres the 2nd mozzie thing.

The name just fitted so well wink

Its future.....
[yoda voice on]
darkness I see but with a light afar
[yoda voice off]

For now Twice Shy will be patched up and put on the water ASAP, once I have KARP finished then I'll most likely re-deck Twice Shy and take it from there.
There's always someone that wants a mozzie and whether its my sons or she finds a new home or becomes the first mozzie to foil.... couldn't resist that one wink
At this stage she's moved away from the rubbish heap and I'm sure both I and my kids will enjoy her to the max, and undoutably someone one day will want her for their own aswell

watch this space..... more to come
wink

Kingy

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23 views already...... shocked
get to bed ya silly buggers
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Re: 1182 [Re: Pirate] #266573
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Just a hint, when getting paint off alloy, use a "strip and clean" mop that goes on a makita polisher and takes it back to bare alloy with about 80 grit keyed on the alloy

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cry now you tell me crazy

oh well, it gleams good enough for now....

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just the shock-cord to fit now.....
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Thinking caps on gents.....

why ????

&

How do I get around this ???

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and yes that's the shed floor you can see through the near 2inch gap

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Re: 1182 [Re: Pirate] #266578
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even the "fit" at the bottom is as bad as the deck fit with an almost 2inch gap, and yeah that's the shed roof
shocked

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Re: 1182 [Re: Pirate] #266579
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Jurassic Karp's boards (colored grey) against Twice Shy's boards (timber) which are 200mm (~8inches) longer .....
and yet the widths are within a millimetre of each other in the board-case area
confused

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I'm thinking of cutting off ~150mm (6inches) off of Twice Shy's boards....

thoughts ???



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cut them down, a lot of the old boards are very long.
front of plate case glue in a bit of timber and shape to fit leading edge of board. you want the boards back as far as you can get them.

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Agreed on the fix you've described, already have the cedar cut and ready to shape...... but why so much excess in the case slots ?????

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I found a soft spot in the bottom of one hull when I was cleaning / polishing, the paint , it was soft enough to crack the actual paint with very light pressure....

so after I attacked the trailer and started a few changes & repairs, we slipped Twice Shy over and had a serious dig in the region, one soft spot.... turns out I have a few more
frown

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better check the other hull..... and much the same story there too mad

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mutter mutter mutter


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Kingy
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The soft spots in each hull line up with each other rather well don't they, obviously water and sitting on the trailer for a few months will do this


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so tomorrow's job after I do a tad more with the trailer is to repair these little buggars, I'll square up the holes a bit better and scarf the ends/sides, cut a piece of fresh ply and cut/scarf it to fit and resin it in, I'll add some filler as required and hopefully a lick of primer during the week.



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Kingy
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& now Mosquitos #1182 & #1740

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the ugly trailer.....
yeah it needs a tidy up and a couple of minor repairs and mods
the thing I cant get over is just how well this thing tows, bloody great trailer to tow that's for sure !!!

me thinks these have had their day...... well and truly !!!

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and with the carpet off..... someone has done some very TLC work here....

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high time they were replaced....
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Kingy
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the new ones.....

In the above pic (first in the last post) you can see I'd already done the front ones.

finished the 2 rear ones last night (sorry about the pic's darkness but it was a late night
wink

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sewer pipe cut/heated and moulded to the hull shape....
Riveted onto a steel rhs base and with 3mm plate added as support wings.
The front ones are solidly mounted whilst the rears 'hinge' down ~25degrees.

just got to glue on the carpet now.....

I'll add a front rack to pickup the front beam and a hinging rear rack to hold the rear beam.....
these slippers will only be used for loading and unloading the boat.


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Kingy
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& now Mosquitos #1182 & #1740

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