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#283947 - 11/14/16 09:19 AM foiling chasing UFO  
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It is an american startup project from fulcrumspeedworks.com.

Weight 50 kg! , 2.70 x 1.70 meter, sail 7.8 sqm

8 kts wind speed gives 15 kts speed



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsOTjI7wi7Y



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hey boy, what did you do over there, alone far out at sea?..
"huh....., that's the only place where I'm happy, sir.
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#283948 - 11/14/16 09:48 AM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: northsea junkie]  
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Cool....

Question, what it the thing coming of the bowsprit that is dragging in the water for?

#283949 - 11/14/16 10:57 AM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: Ventucky Red]  
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Stop the vid at 4.43 and you see the dragging-feeler which controls the angle of the small foiling front wings.

Like with the Moths. They invented this mechanism.




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hey boy, what did you do over there, alone far out at sea?..
"huh....., that's the only place where I'm happy, sir.
#283950 - 11/14/16 11:12 AM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: northsea junkie]  
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Here's another more conventional cat with the wand foil adjustment system, called the Stunt S9.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmRTZik0Vf8


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#283951 - 11/14/16 11:28 AM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: Timbo]  
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Difference is the dimension of the cats and hence the price.

The Swiss Stunt S9 cost 18.000 euro while the UFO goes for 8000 dollar



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hey boy, what did you do over there, alone far out at sea?..
"huh....., that's the only place where I'm happy, sir.
#283954 - 11/14/16 02:14 PM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: northsea junkie]  
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Here's what I've been wondering ever since this foiling thing came to the A Cats, once you are up on the foils, hull length no longer applies for speed, so the real challenge comes to be how much sail area you can control, and how efficient your foils are, right?

Perhaps once all cats start foiling, a new measurement rule will evolve that only looks at total sail area, total foil area, and minimum weight?

Hull length, and maybe even beam, won't matter as much once you are up out of the water.


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#283955 - 11/14/16 03:18 PM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: Timbo]  
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But that's exactly the genius in the design of this new UFO.

It's a very small and short craft with no other purpose than flying as soon as possible on foils.
It doesn't sink like a Moth and also doesn't have all the rimram of a full size cat.

Besides that, you can lift it single-handed and it has the price of an old second car.


It's more or less a "folk foiling boat".




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hey boy, what did you do over there, alone far out at sea?..
"huh....., that's the only place where I'm happy, sir.
#283956 - 11/14/16 03:59 PM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: northsea junkie]  
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Originally Posted by northsea junkie

It's more or less a "folk foiling boat".


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#283962 - 11/15/16 03:50 PM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: Timbo]  
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Hull length, and maybe even beam, won't matter as much once you are up out of the water.


Beam (righting moment) is HUGE for a foiling boat, any handicap/rating will have to take that into account.

#283968 - 11/16/16 05:17 AM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: northsea junkie]  
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look here http://www.s9team.eu/ or facebook page
price 16600 euros full optional
24.7 knots top speed
80 kg

#283979 - 11/17/16 01:47 PM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: northsea junkie]  
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Similar to the stunt: http://www.catamaraneuropecentral.com/

16.790 ex VAT


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#283985 - 11/17/16 04:21 PM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: northsea junkie]  
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The Stunt, Stunt 9, and S9 are all terms for the same model boat. I sailed one at Foil Week in Newport in early September and enjoyed it. I sailed in marginal foiling conditions (maybe 8 mph) and was told when we got to shore that it would be priced at $22K in the U.S. (boat, originating country tax, trailer, and delivery to U.S.) I looked at Mark Batchelor's Exploder A Class cat and learned from him that they are available for $25K. I would spend the extra $3k for that boat over the S9 if I was in the market for a foiling cat. I would also wait to see how the production UFO turns out as all they had at that time was the prototype and were anticipating selling it for $9K and that would be way easier to transport, rig, launch, retrieve, store, and pay for if you just wanted to go foiling.

#283992 - 11/18/16 06:21 AM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: Gilo]  
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ifli 17800 its base boat , alu mast , fiberglass hulls , no covers , no beachtrolley, poor blocks and ropes, and probably 125 kg .
this boat have give nothing on foiling trend , all its copy.

#283993 - 11/18/16 06:24 AM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: northsea junkie]  
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Mike , many time S9 proved to be better in the race, compared to A,
and have a really more big range wind-wave than A.

#283994 - 11/18/16 11:19 AM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: cardiocat]  
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whether I win or lose in a race is not as relevant to my interest as ease of foiling/control and the "fun" factor (not complicated setup/breakdown, easy moving on land, storage, transport)

Heck, Hobie Waves aren't exactly the fastest low-riders on the market, but they are a hoot to sail due to their ease...


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#283996 - 11/18/16 11:49 AM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: northsea junkie]  
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I was impressed with the stunt, I thought it looked very well put together. Its much more boat than the UFO.

#283997 - 11/18/16 01:50 PM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: bacho]  
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What's next???

Increasing the width of the foils, sailing into an updraft, and soaring 2000 feet in to the air?

These foiling boats are turning my H-16 into the equivalent of a hard-wired dial phone!



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#284015 - 11/22/16 09:38 AM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: Jeff Peterson]  
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Originally Posted by Jeff Peterson


These foiling boats are turning my H-16 into the equivalent of a hard-wired dial phone!



And the problem with that is....>? What's wrong with "classic" tech if it still works reliably and is enjoyable for you?

I enjoy driving manual transmission vehicles
I like hardwired phones
I still write letters
I sail a low-rider


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#284017 - 11/22/16 01:51 PM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: northsea junkie]  
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Here is the latest foiling entry and the price of 15,000 Euros would be under $16,000 U.S. thanks to the strong dollar. Looks very promising! http://www.foiling101.com/

#284020 - 11/22/16 02:51 PM Re: foiling chasing UFO [Re: Mike Fahle]  
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interesting that the magic wand is behind the main foil rather than in front of it like the mothie... I guess foil trim isn't that sensitive that it has to be out in front?


Jay

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