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#284453 - 12/23/16 07:31 PM F101 design - (trimaran moth)  
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#284503 - 12/25/16 01:10 PM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: Mike Fahle]  
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that's a cool looking concept.


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#284550 - 12/27/16 02:22 PM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: Mike Fahle]  
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Jake, I agree, and the price looks good, too. I also like that there is a development team formed of the parts suppliers and that they are working together for testing and refining before releasing a final complete boat.

#284551 - 12/27/16 03:42 PM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: Mike Fahle]  
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So this concept would forego the need to move foils up/down when changing direction,etc. Right?

Wonder if weight distribution/placement is as critical as the moth?


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#284563 - 12/28/16 09:31 AM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: waterbug_wpb]  
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
So this concept would forego the need to move foils up/down when changing direction,etc. Right?

Wonder if weight distribution/placement is as critical as the moth?


It's basically a big, more forgiving, moth and just has the two center foils (board/rudder). The wand in the foil seems like a solid progression that might be useful even for the moth, maybe.. Having to carry the moth into deep enough water before taking off is a pretty sizable drawback.


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#284564 - 12/28/16 09:32 AM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: Mike Fahle]  
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Originally Posted by Mike Fahle
Jake, I agree, and the price looks good, too. I also like that there is a development team formed of the parts suppliers and that they are working together for testing and refining before releasing a final complete boat.


I missed the price - what is their target?


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#284578 - 12/28/16 04:50 PM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: Jake]  
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Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by Mike Fahle
Jake, I agree, and the price looks good, too. I also like that there is a development team formed of the parts suppliers and that they are working together for testing and refining before releasing a final complete boat.


I missed the price - what is their target?


Their FAQ's say they want to keep the price under 15,000 British Pounds, which my currency converter app says is $18,334. US Dollars.

What's a new Wetta going for these days?

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#284622 - 12/30/16 02:26 PM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: Mike Fahle]  
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Today the currency exchanges list the dollar valued at .95 Euro so that means $15,000 Euro = $15,800 US. That makes this boat very attractively priced compared to most new beach cats let alone other foilers. The WETA is listed at $14K and a new Nacra 570 is $15,600. Of course shipping would add more to the cost of the F101 than most boats available in N.A.



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#284650 - 12/31/16 02:57 PM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: Mike Fahle]  
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#284660 - 01/01/17 05:35 PM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: Mike Fahle]  
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Mike, I thought their FAQ's said the price was going to be around 15,000 British Pounds, not 15,000 Euro's? That symbol prior to the 15,000 is for Pounds, not Euro's.

Currency Sign: £

Nicknames: British currency;

ISO 4217 Alphabetic Code: GBP (Active ISO 4217 Table)
ISO 4217 Numeric Code: 826

Minor Unit: 2
Coins: 1p, 2p, 5p, 10p, 20p, 25p, 50p, £1, £2, £5
Banknotes: £1(Scot. only), £5, £10, £20, £50, £100 (Scot. & N. Ireland only)

Here's the exchange rate data, it's more like $18,522 us dollars.


15,000 GBP =
18,522.08USD
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British Pound
1 GBP = 1.23481 USD

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US Dollar
1 USD = 0.809844 GBP

Here's a copy/paste from their FAQ site:

How much is an F101?

We haven’t finalised the exact specification of all the components, but we envisage an F101, ready to sail for less than £15,000.


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#284666 - 01/02/17 06:40 PM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: Mike Fahle]  
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You are right, Timbo. I think this is a classic example of the Pygmalion effect! I was creating a condition that I wanted to be true! Even so, I think this is still a great price for this boat, especially when compared to the $50K for the Phantom 18 I was sailing last summer.

#284689 - 01/03/17 05:45 PM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: Mike Fahle]  
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I was surprised when they said they are test sailing it in Spain, but the price quoted is in pounds, not euros.



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#284971 - 01/12/17 03:47 PM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: Mike Fahle]  
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This message is just to bump this string up the list and to help put the spam lower on the list.

#285065 - 01/14/17 01:36 PM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: Mike Fahle]  
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Originally Posted by Mike Fahle
This message is just to bump this string up the list and to help put the spam lower on the list.


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#285109 - 01/15/17 05:43 AM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: Mike Fahle]  
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Originally Posted by Mike Fahle
This message is just to bump this string up the list and to help put the spam lower on the list.


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#285154 - 01/16/17 05:53 PM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: JeffS]  
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Jeff, frankly, I would rather have the spam. I can identify the spam by the subject line. I can't identify a post that has nothing but your bump replies in it. I spend more time clicking through all of the bumped posts than avoiding the spam. I appreciate the effort, tho.


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#285159 - 01/16/17 08:12 PM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: Mike Fahle]  
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#285693 - 02/11/17 02:25 PM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: JeffS]  
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...to the top.


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#286275 - 03/01/17 02:20 PM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: Mike Fahle]  
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Just got a new e-mail today that reads as follows:
"The foiling trimaran, F101, launches at this weekend's RYA Suzuki Dinghy Show! The much-talked about Foiling trimaran F101 will be publicly launched this weekend, 4th-5th March, in London at the RYA Dinghy Exhibition at Alexandra Palace. While the F101 became public last November, and some photos and videos have since been released from the prototype testing phase this is the first opportunity for people to come and see the F101 in the flesh.

Meet the F101 team on Harken stand, G8 in the West Hall right next to the RYA Suzuki Main Stage! The F101 on display is boat number two, with number three also close to completion, and build slots up to number ten already reserved.  Tooling and component specification for the production version are nearly complete, and the first production boats are expected to be delivered in May 2017.

Foiling World, the marketing business behind the F101, are working in close collaboration with the Designer Ron Price, the builder White Formula, and rig and hardware suppliers, Selden Masts, Hyde Sails and Harken."

"The response since we went public last November has been incredible, we have had enquiries and interest from all over the world, and we are very confident that this will be a very busy year. Clearly foiling sailboats are becoming very visible at the top end of our sport, but what we believe we have achieved with F101, is an affordable boat, that can be enjoyed by a much wider group of sailors."
Alan Hillman, Director of Foiling World


Here is the link for more info: http://www.foiling101.com/how-to-buy/?ct=t(F101_Dinghy_Show_2017_2_28_2017)&mc_cid=4f0c68625a&mc_eid=191baa213d

#286291 - 03/02/17 09:33 AM Re: F101 design - (trimaran moth) [Re: Mike Fahle]  
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what's it rate?


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