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Re: 35th America's Cup [Re: Damon Linkous] #286935
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Originally Posted by Damon Linkous
Finally got the video working again. There is a new button [Linked Image] to click and insert the URL of the video.

Thanks Damon. I didn't see the new button but the old media tag is now working. I went back and edited my posts to embed the video on those posts that haven't "edit time expired". I did notice that none of the old embedded videos (other threads) work any more or they are now broken.


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Re: 35th America's Cup [Re: brucat] #286936
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Originally Posted by brucat

Do the scores reset after the initial round robins?

Mike


28. AMERICA’S CUP CHALLENGER PLAYOFFS
28.1. Overview: The America’s Cup Challenger Playoffs shall comprise a Semi-
Finals stage and a Final stage, each of which shall include the following
agreed principles:
(a) the winner of each race scores one (1) point, the loser scores no
points;
(b) no Competitor shall compete in any more than three (3) races on
any one (1) day. An abandoned race is not a completed race;
(c) crew substitutions shall be restricted to two (2) crew for each
Competitor between each race on any day; and
(d) Competitors shall race in yachts that comply with the AC62 Class
Rule.
28.2. Semi-Finals stage: Only the top four (4) placed Challengers in the
America’s Cup Qualifiers shall qualify to compete in the America’s Cup
Challenger Playoffs. The top placed Challenger in the America’s Cup
Qualifiers shall choose its opponent in the Semi-Finals stage of the
America’s Cup Challenger Playoffs. The remaining two (2) Challengers
shall race each other. The winner of each Semi-Final shall be the first
Challenger to score at least five (5) points after applying any penalties.
28.3. Final stage: The winner of each Semi-Final shall compete against
each other in the Final stage. The winner of the Final stage will be the
first Challenger to score at least five (5) points after applying any
penalties. The Challenger that wins the Final stage shall qualify to
compete against the Defender in the Match. If for any reason the
winner of the Final stage is ineligible or unable to compete as the
challenger against the Defender in the Match, then the next highest
placed Challenger that is eligible and able shall be the challenger in the
Match.


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...OK, so yes?

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Originally Posted by Will_R
Originally Posted by Tony_F18
Someone remind me why Oracle is sailing in the challenger series again?
IMHO they have no business being there.


This is total speculation, but... I'm guessing that it also has something to do with the one boat per team rule. If all teams (defender and challenger) are limited to a single boat, how do you test? Back in the monohull days, most of the teams (especially the defender) ran multi-boat programs. Allowing the defender into the challenger round robins would reduce the cost for the defender by not having to build/test/maintain a second platform.

It also makes for better media, one more boat on the water to race.


Good point!


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Today's forecast from Oracle:

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0900: Today is all about the forecast. Very light and shifty conditions are forecast, just around the lower limit for race (an average wind speed of 6 knots).

Winds this afternoon are forecast to be 3 to 6 knots, NE, easing to variable.


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Today's race schedule:

12:00 14:00 Bermuda
JPN vs FRA

12:30 14:30 Bermuda
GBR vs NZL

13:00 15:00 Bermuda
USA vs JPN

13:30 15:30 Bermuda
FRA vs GBR


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I'm going to miss at least the first two, someone please post updates!

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You're not missing anything... delay due to light wind.

Watching replays of yesterday's races


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Have they cancelled or just in a delay?

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New quick-reply box!

Re: 35th America's Cup [Re: David Parker] #286946
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looks like they just sent them to the beach for the day...


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Just jumped onto the NBCSN app, says they're postponed. Jay, how are you viewing, seems like you have better info?

Mike

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Race committee still waiting to get 2 races off. Race 3 and 4 cancelled to time limit expiration.


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Races abandoned.


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Thursday is not a "scheduled" race day but today's format will carry over to tomorrow for make up.


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Originally Posted by brucat
Just jumped onto the NBCSN app, says they're postponed. Jay, how are you viewing, seems like you have better info?

Mike

+1 on the Quick Reply box!!!



I didn't see the abandon flag but guessed between replays that the clock would run out... Looks like for once I guessed right smile

I'm streaming off the NBC website. I doubt if there is much delay between that and the mobile app.

I presume there is some delay between the live event and the stream... Maybe up to 20 minutes? It seemed there were some comments here and SA that were based on the live tracker that seemed ahead of my broadcast. Like that penalty on SWE from NZL...


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What are the expected conditions today?

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currently 6-7 kts
forecast 10-12 kts


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That'll work, thanks PM.

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Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by Will_R
Originally Posted by Tony_F18
Someone remind me why Oracle is sailing in the challenger series again?
IMHO they have no business being there.


This is total speculation, but... I'm guessing that it also has something to do with the one boat per team rule. If all teams (defender and challenger) are limited to a single boat, how do you test? Back in the monohull days, most of the teams (especially the defender) ran multi-boat programs. Allowing the defender into the challenger round robins would reduce the cost for the defender by not having to build/test/maintain a second platform.

It also makes for better media, one more boat on the water to race.


Good point!


From America’s Cup Hall of Famer, Mike Drummond – the former Team NZ navigator

"What will the defender achieve from racing with the challengers

Fraternizing with the enemy is no longer a sin in the America’s Cup. Controversially including the defender in the challenger fray - for the first time in 166 years - will definitely benefit Oracle.

First and foremost, they will have gleaned plenty of knowledge of the challengers, and learned much about how their own boat races, before they take a vital two weeks off to perfect “17” for the Cup proper.

But they also want the one point that’s up for grabs, which translates into the first win in the America’s Cup match. Should it be a challenger who tops the qualifier series ending on Sunday, they will have to proceed to the Cup match to make the point count.

The next few days are important for Oracle. They will want to deny Team NZ that prized point. “But it’s just as important for them to learn as much as they can, from sailing against strong opposition.”

Oracle are no mugs – and they have sharp memories of the last Cup where they never stopped developing and improving."

Cup Hall of Famer answers the big questions


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