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Re: 35th America's Cup [Re: David Parker] #287328
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NZL takes Race 2. Score is 1-0, NZL.

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Similar wind forecast tomorrow. Going to be a long week.

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NBC is dialing up for Ted Turner's special. Interesting choice.

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Gonna be a quick cup methinks. Oracle doesn't have any special sauce this time.

Hope y'all like the trip back to monoslugs when NZL takes the cup back.

Re: 35th America's Cup [Re: ThunderMuffin] #287334
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Originally Posted by ThunderMuffin


Hope y'all like the trip back to monoslugs when NZL takes the cup back.



What was that Jake was saying about watching the paint dry?


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Thanks Philip. That was (predictably) boring as hell...

Mike

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NBC totally missed the racing in the second race, leg 5. Way too much on board cameras, close ups and not enough racing. When Oracle met up with NZ at the top, even Draper and Nathan were surprised, because they are viewing the same feed that we were.

Towards the end of leg six, NBC shows a split screen with 3 cameras, one on board for each team, and the third showing the helicopter feed showing the coarse with the virtual eye overlay. This should be the default view for the majority of the race.


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BT Sports reporting Oracle running asymmetric foils today (different between starboard and port foil). BT Sports coverage overall for the AC35 has been much better than NBC. I've been watching excellent coverage for the last hour.


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Do you have a link to the BT feed?

NZL is just crushing those first leeward legs. USA can't even pull off a foiling gybe?

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2-0 NZL, but it doesn't even feel that close. USA needs to force NZL to really screw up the pre-start. And, they need to be faster and have cleaner maneuvers for the rest of the race.

About 10 minutes to race 4.

Mike

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Originally Posted by brucat


About 10 minutes to race 4.

Mike

Race 4 is over


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Did they delay the broadcast online? I'm watching on the NBCSN app, they just rounded the first leeward gate. Should I bother watching the rest, after the way this one started (same as the prior 3)?

Mike

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Mike, it was ugly.
You're about 20-30 minutes behind.

NZ design team 4
Oracle design team 0


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Ok, thanks for saving me the time, frustration and battery power.

I'm going back to enjoying roller coasters and water slides with the boys. Happy Father's Day guys!

Mike

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Re: 35th America's Cup [Re: brucat] #287346
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Originally Posted by brucat
Don't think for half a second that Ken doesn't understand VMG. He grew up racing on Narragansett Bay (shifty and puffy like a lake, with extremely variable currents), and has done a few stints in the VOR.

Unless you're on a piece of water with no current or wind shifts; VMG, like boatspeed, is something to consider, but may not always be the priority. There are times when you may prioritize one of these over the other, or sacrifice both for another goal, like placement vs your competition, or preparation for an expected shift in wind or current, etc.

Wind forecast for tomorrow says low teens, should be fun!

Mike


That was tongue in cheek - clearly the guy knows VMG with his experience.


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Gotcha​. Weird not hearing Ken's voice, though.

Today's presser was more of the same. I remember thinking Jimmy was out of his gourd in SF (when he kept saying he was confident that they could come back and win), so I won't make that mistake again. I do like that Burling admits that his team wasn't perfect and they're striving to improve every day.

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Originally Posted by brucat
Gotcha​. Weird not hearing Ken's voice, though.

Today's presser was more of the same. I remember thinking Jimmy was out of his gourd in SF (when he kept saying he was confident that they could come back and win), so I won't make that mistake again. I do like that Burling admits that his team wasn't perfect and they're striving to improve every day.

Mike


This time there's no coming back.

No secret sauce now.

It's hard to believe that with all of the money and technology behind Oracle, with Airbus and all of the research they've done - that they're this much slower than the NZL boat. It's not even close.

Should have partnered with Boeing. As they say in the industry, "If it ain't Boeing it ain't going"

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