Congrates all on this F-14 class ,-numerous interested knowledable sailors raring to race F-14s of their own creation and choosing .-Thanks to Bob for proposing rules -organizing the vote , and having the patience and courage to get it started with a broad general open set of F-14 class-rules and boat desciption outline and specification,--wweeaaayyy !applause -cheers -confetti -more applause and cheers ,-standing ovation .
Good disclaimer at the bottom of rules -
on the ability of future changes per vote of class members and the future possible addition of a second sub category in F-14 class.
The only limits set currently are L of 14.3 --Sail area 300 sq ft -any configuration sail plan --and mast height 24 ft--
all open -beyond -
The design possibilities are wide open .-
Several will build 150 LB -scaled down A Class type 14 ft cats w spin ,-
http://www.morrellimelvin.com/page27.html A 14,3 -14 ft beam trimaran with 300 sq ft carried upwind and down may be built ,-via mini 60 tri w forward foils to carry sail ar .http://www.multiplast-yachts.com/eng/record/realisation.htm
A 14 ft wide 2 masted cat configuration two 24 ft hi aspect mainsails could be built ,-via Parliear cat design -
http://www.parlier.org/site02/accueil/1024x768.html A foiler design --see A Class foiler--could be built -http://www.foils.org/gallery/carlson.htm
An A frame rig on 14 ft beam could be built with masts set aft towards stern with multiple headsails --this increases relative distance and effective volume from CE on the sail to bows , balance then achieved by oversized rudder/ board combination--forward foils can also be used for an extended lifting spin option .
you get the picture --open rules will allow ingenious ways to design faster sailing craft ,14s or in any L class category.
This will be great fun ,-A number of 14 sailors have expressed interest in building such F-14 category sailing craft ,----evan better if the rules were wide open on mast height and sail area --only a 14,3 L --but only for the Open category F-14s .
In antisipation of a second production class F-14 category
with a min weight of 230 per Mystere 4.3 type ,with some others much higher,like H-14 or N 450 at 280 Lbs it may be good to go ahead and propose a modified production class rules outline based on existing boat weight and design measurements .
A production boat comparison chart provided by Dav in a previous thread for review-
http://mystereowners.org/mystere/43specs.html A typical box rule--- having 4 measured sides -Length Beam Weight and Sail area -
To reasonably accomodate numerous existing production 14s a more standard defined box form rule will be required to insure a category within F-14 of good fair reasonably equal boats racing .
Clearly this needs to occur ,-per numerous posts on weight to sail area -speed differences ,-by several very expert interested sailors in previous threads.
The Category 2 modified production 14 rules added may look something like -
Length 14.3
Beam 8,
Weight 230 min.
Sail area 150 main and jib
150 max spin = 300 total
Mast height 24
Some production boats will weigh more than the min. 230 --
H-14 at 250 - or 280Lbs per N 450. Other Formula clases allow jib and spin size increases that corespond with added weight as compensation for it -
Some adjust spin and jib sizes for crew weight ,-
but this becomes very complex ,particularly if used with boat weight variable .
A total boat and crew weight is another option ,
but again very complex ,-its best if crew size matches the boat ,--if not then innovate in the open category with sail plan concepts carried upwind and down providing advantage with added ballast-- { beer gut}
A simple spin size increase for production category boats over 260 Lb to 170 sq ft spin may be considered, or left out .
Others Formula rules 18s 16s etc per examples define each componant in detail as to materials allowed and measurements --sails -mast- spin pole -boards rudders -tramp-tillers hardware-trap gear
etc etc .-
KEEPING THESE OPEN AND RULES SIMPLE is important .
these may be added if needed , though many of these are self limiting for practical reasons.
Hope this 2nd modified production category F-14 is not immediately needed ,-but may be best to have this intent ready as questions will surely be asked in great detail on class rules and boat modifications and the equal fair racing aspect,--
If production type owners know little is needed to compete ,
more will be interested.
Offered this as a starting point for 2nd category production F-14s --others may have added concepts -
Hope this is helpfull .
