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Spin bag or Snuffer #4212
11/26/01 01:30 PM
11/26/01 01:30 PM
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Dallas, Texas
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Which works better for larger spins??? Any observations welcome.<br><br>

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Re: Spin bag or Snuffer [Re: thom] #4213
11/26/01 04:25 PM
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Thom - I have an I20 with snuffer, and I have sailed on an F31 using a regular spin bag. While not exactly the same as a cat with a tramp-mounted spin bag, I think there are some similarities.
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<br>In my opinion, the snuffer is the only way to go for anything other than a Worrell-type race. The snuffer is very fast and easy to launch and/or douse the spinnaker, even solo or with a non-sailing guest. When using a bag, you must drop the spinnaker onto the tramp (which is much harder to coordinate), and you also need to stuff the spin into the bag while simultaneously controlling the lowering of the spin halyard. Since the coordination is more difficult when using a bag, it is also easier to accdentally drop the sail into the water or get it tangled on the shrouds, etc.
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<br>Since the Worrell guys are all much more expienced racers than I am, I assume that for long-distance races with world-class crew, the ease-of-use of the snuffer is not required.
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<br>Sail fast and have fun,
<br>Alan Thompson
<br>I20 - San Diego<br><br>

Re: Spin bag or Snuffer [Re: whitecaps] #4214
11/26/01 04:54 PM
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Well when you say bigger spinnaker how big do you mean? Over a certain amount of square footage you can not snuff it anymore and you would have to go with a spinnaker bag on the trampoline system. I think it is 400 square foot maxium but I am not 100% sure.
<br>-Todd<br><br>

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Re: Spin bag or Snuffer [Re: thom] #4215
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I use a bag mounted on the tramp. I have not had the chance to sail with a snuffer yet. I have found the bag to work well, although I have not done too much sailing with the spin in winds over 12 knots.
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<br>David <br><br>

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Re: Spin bag or Snuffer [Re: thom] #4216
11/26/01 05:14 PM
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<br> If its for your Arc. 22 , better have a spin bag and crew with min. 16 inch biceps ,--joking .
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<br>-Bill Roberts --{ARC DESIGNER } -actually patenred the first snuffer back in 1967 --
<br> I am sure he could recommend a superior version for the Arc .
<br>--Can you give us some insight on what the 22 is like to sail and how it responds to a chute .
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<br> Thanks -Carl <br><br>

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Re: Spin bag or Snuffer [Re: sail6000] #4217
11/26/01 08:01 PM
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I haven't bought a spin yet.
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<br>thom<br><br>

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Re: Spin bag or Snuffer [Re: sail6000] #4218
11/26/01 09:29 PM
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Here is a link to the patent you mention:
<br>http://www.delphion.com/cgi-bin/viewpat.cmd/US03310018__?MODE=fstv&OUT_FORMAT=pdf
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<br>http://www.delphion.com/cgi-bin/viewpat.cmd/US03310018__?MODE=fstv&OUT_FORMAT=pdf<br><br>Mike Teets
<br>Dublin, Ohio
<br>I20 #246
<br>M4.3 #59

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Re: Spin bag or Snuffer [Re: TeamTeets] #4219
11/27/01 01:39 AM
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Patent applied for in 1965, recognized in 1967. Who says cat sailors are leading edge? This just proves that human's generally resist change. I love my snuffer and am amazed it took me so long to discover asymmetric's and then snuffers. Pardon me for saying so, but anything that makes sailing less difficult might actually attract some new members to our sport.
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