| Re: Carbon fiber a comptip?
[Re: mmiller]
#50279 06/10/05 06:46 PM 06/10/05 06:46 PM |
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Posts: 195 White Bear Lake, MN | Interesting and provocative discussion guys...seems non-comptip mast sails may, at times, be recut to better match the bend characteristics of the comptip and result in a faster performing platform. OK sounds plausible.
Now, if a newest technology sail material & cut were designed (ie., square top or whatever) to optimize a given boats performance would it be enhanced, or otherwise, on a H17 comptip mast?
That mast does not have diamond wires. I believe, all together different than the TheMightyHobie18 and the H20.
Consider open fleet and with all due respect to class racing rules.
It has been interesting to research the evolution of the Toronado class with masts & sails into higher performing boats.
Again, being that the H17 is near and dear to my heart (a big thank you to Hobie for continuing to build the boat, I am a fan!) would/could the governing association ever be petitioned to allow modifications to a higher level of performance? A stretch, I know, but only wondering.
Sail on, Tom G
PS. Feel free to share any pics available from the carbon fiber hang glider incident...:)? | | | Re: Sam's B.S. & Triumph
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#50284 06/13/05 11:22 AM 06/13/05 11:22 AM |
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#50285 06/16/05 08:06 AM 06/16/05 08:06 AM |
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Posts: 1,658 Florida Suncoast, Dunedin Caus... | Intresting, authority is questioned and a few people decide to answer buy trashing. Doing the same or worst.
I'll be clear I don't believe I've heard the truth here about the topic I raised.
Some of you think your going to get answers from someone who used to work at H.C..........REALLY?
I think it's clear that some of you miss or need the old forum.
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| | | Re: Comptip weight?
[Re: carlbohannon]
#50287 06/16/05 09:26 AM 06/16/05 09:26 AM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | Does anybody know how much more a comptip weighs than the equivalent section of aluminum mast that was on a Hobie originally?
And, does anybody know: If you have two Hobie 18's, one with a comptip and one with the original, solid aluminum mast, and if both masts are well sealed and do not contain water, which of the boats is most likely to turtle (or which will turtle the fastest) when they capsize in identical sea and wind conditions? And which is the hardest to right? | | | Re: Comptip weight?
[Re: Mary]
#50289 06/17/05 10:38 AM 06/17/05 10:38 AM |
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Posts: 1,459 Annapolis,MD | Mary, When I had my 20 with the tapered comptip, the advice I had always heard was to get on the righting line ASAP after a capsize, because the tapered shape of the comptip didn't have as much bouyancy. The few times I did capsize that boat I followed that advice, and it did indeed feel like if we weren't on the line quick it would have turtled. Since I never put the comptip on my 18, I can't compare directly there, but the 18 with the solid aluminum mast (not tapered) felt more stable on its side than the 20 did. My 6.0 (fairly decent sized section, no taper) feels solid as a rock after a capsize, granted I've only done it twice. Out of the three boats, the 18 seemed to take more effort to right, with the 20 next, and the 6.0 the easiest.
With respect to the 20 comments, I think the difference is because of the tapered shape, not the fact that it's a comptip. | | |
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