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2005 F-18 Worlds start (Netherlands) #52786
07/10/05 08:19 AM
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F-18 Worlds have started with 8 Australians attending and a big fleet of Capricorns from Europe and Oz.

http://www.f18worlds2005.com

FINAL ENTRY LIST

Country Helmsman / Crew
Australia Goodall Greg Boag Chris
Australia Elliott David (Slimy) Munroe Chris (Slater)
Australia Dull Don Cheeseman Neal
Australia Collett Brad McDonald Lucas
Australia McDonald Russ Barnes Nev
Australia Van Kerckhof Daniel Cook Micheal
Australia Bundock Darren Ashby Glenn
Australia Booth Taylor ?????????? ????
Belgium Demesmaeker Patrick Gagliani Olivier
Belgium Brouwer Carolijn Godefroid Sebbe
Belgium mussen michel Provo Piet
Belgium Portzenheim Vincent Fobe Bernard
Belgium Joël Lefevre Vincent Lebrun
Belgium Bosser Thierry Gramme Alain
Belgium van Cutsem Marc Kervyn Tanguy
Belgium Declercq Paul Adriansens Bruno
Belgium van Son Bert Dobbels Frank
Belgium Joski Yves Bindels Damien
France Thibaut VAUCHEL Jérémie LAGARRIGUE
France Loic FEQUET François FILIPPI
France Seguin Damien Moreau Frédéric
France Danset Jean Baptiste Tanchon Rémy
France Guillaume LABERENNE Olivier MOREL
France Ludovic BLANCHARD Lionel ZERBONIA
France Gildas Griziaux Erwan Griziaux
France Delaby Thierry Meyers Jean-Michel
France BERTRAND LEPRETRE FLORENT DAMBRUNE
France EMMANUEL BOULOGNE VINCENT BOULOGNE
France BAECKLER JAMES CHICEMANIAN RUDLPH
France BRUNEEL MAXIME BRUNEEL TIMOTHE
France Pierre MARS Guillaume SANGIARDI
France Simon DELPIERRE Clément DELPIERRE
France Benjamin ENGLISH Christophe CARBONNIERES
France Renaud de Malet Christophe Rossollin Alban
France Moana Vaireaux Romain Petit
France Florence DELORY Fabrice BERRANGER
France Erussard Victorien
France Mourniac Jean-Christophe Citeau Franck
France Pfeiffer Frédérique Dettling Françoise
France Fischer Martin Desbois Xavier
France François Morvan Matthieu Vandame
UK Garcka Rob Winrow Rod
UK Worthington Jon Quayle Tom
UK glynn mitchell miller nicholas
UK bartlett david cooke paul
UK Robinson Andy Fagerlund Johanna
UK Hutchcroft Jonnie Lunch Marcus
UK Crawford Ryan Crawford Lewis
UK Gummer Stuart Power Gillian
UK Walsh Andy Barney Ed
UK Farrow Leo Lamb Tristan
UK Mansfield Ben Hinks Ben
UK Clark Russell Mountford Penny
UK Power James Forshaw Ellen
UK Sunnucks William Self Mark
UK Chadder Martin Chadder Sam
UK Rashley Chris Vaughan Sam
UK Tayler Andrew Tayler Chris
UK Kearns Simon Burns Ben
UK Cooper Kevin Martin Justin
UK Styles Hugh Vials Graham
Ireland Sheeran Yvonne
Germany Dransfeld Arne Heinsohn Jan
Germany Schwarzlow Ralf Schwarzlow Dirk
Germany Buss Andreas Jung Andreas
Germany Breuer Maria Pipke Jens
Germany Schmeink Harald not decided yet
Germany Schwall René Hartkopf Chris
Germany Gosche Jörg Gosche Arne
Germany Reinke Thomas Karsten Baumann
Germany Sach Helge Sach Christian
Germany Lindstädt Sven Rocholl Christian
Germany Wolf Justus John Andreas
Germany Jakobitz Oliver Schmidt Frauke
Germany Donald Beike ? ?
Germany Hahn Ulf Hahn Susanne
Germany Fock Horst Gieszinger Alexander
Germany Landenberger Andrew
Holland Cieremans Jeroen Van Deventer Saskia
Holland van Nes Hans Van Nes Marleen
Holland Van der Plas Arie Duijvesetijn Gemma
Holland Boers Eelco Boers Tjidde
Holland Breur Hans Buyse Paul
Holland Cok Eric Oostenbrug Niels
Holland Damen Bart Vlietstra Sied
Holland de Bruijne Kathelijn Bogaards Diana
Holland de Jong Rens Kijf Michael
Holland Vink Peter Amels Ilja
Holland de Roder Monique Stoke Annemieke
Holland Delnooz Elke Schoorl Harry
Holland den Hollander Leen Mulder Sander
Holland Flier Jean-Louis Blokzijl Jurjen
Holland Geijssen Willem van Capelle Rico
Holland Loos Gerard van Ruitenburg Pieter
Holland graat rikkert koene daan
Holland Groen Thomas Van der Meer Arthur
Holland Hagenaar Pim Buizer Marleen
Holland Hebly Juppe Pronk Erik
Holland Heemskerk Mischa de Boer Sander
Holland Hofman Arien Zuijderwijk John
Holland ten Houte Ysbrand van Joolen Roland
Holland Huntelman Vincent van der Kamp Herwin
Holland Kenbeek Remco Brouwer Paul
Holland Larsen Sascha Larsen Gunnar
Holland Lausberg Jos Tentij Bas
Holland Leek Dick Baltus Cor
Holland Monteny Marcel Smeets Joost
Holland Nielen Stef Schuurman Sander
Holland Remeijer Remco Schroder Lucas
Holland Samama Wouter van Leeuwen Jeroen
Holland Simoons Roel Brouwer Martijn
Holland Schulting Pieter Schulting Steven
Holland Tobias Marieke van Geest Gerhard
Holland van Beynum Ralph Gideonse Wim
Holland Van Dam Coert Van Dam Marius
Holland van der Meulen Reindert-Jan Knol Carina
Holland van der Plas Hans de Mooij Karel
Holland van der Poel Wampe Engelsman Marieke
Holland Veenman Jorden Munck de Mischa
Holland Veenstra Tjiddo van de Werff Dave
Holland Vliegenthart Bert Vliegenthart Ebert
Holland Zeekant Oscar van Uchelen Noortje
Holland Kruijt Vincent Puijker Rembrandt
Holland schaaper Martijn Blom Esther
Holland te Buck Paul Beck Herald
Holland ten Houte de Lange Ysbrand van Joolen Roland
Holland Vliet, van der Robert Herman Kappetijn
Holland Harskamp, van Igor Feodor Kuyper Richard
Italy Sicouri Pierre Sicouri Raphael
Italy Fantasia Giovanni Stella Maurizio
Italy Laruffa Mark ?? ??
Italy Vettori ?? Lunz ??
Spain Benitez Bernardo Loureiro Carlos
Spain Garcia-Cernuda Francisco Ontoso Emilio
Sweden Gnosspellus Johan Nordblom Niklas
Sweden Gattberg Henrik Ogren Joakim
Sweden Adilstam Fredrik Johansson Pontus
Sweden Westergren Per Lövdén Magnus
Sweden Kempff Joakim Nordström Magnus
Sweden Astrom Petter Albinsson Robert
Sweden Rotsman Jim Wikman Henrik
USA Kennedy Marc Keenan Matt
USA Shafer Alex ?? ??
USA Pilon Olivier ?? ??
Wildcards
NewCal LE GAL Jerome SIRET Michael
Austria ZAJAC Thomas CZAJKA Thomas
Denmark Ehrhardt Bo Ehrhardt Mads
Switzerland Antoine AUDEMA Frédéric VANDENBERGHE
Ireland Sheeran Jim Sheeran Chris
Hungary Varady Sz. Janos Petheo Tamas
Hungary Litkey Csaba Szentivanyi Arpad
Holland Booth Mitch Dercksen Herbert

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Re: 2005 F-18 Worlds start (Netherlands) [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #52787
07/10/05 10:04 AM
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Alex Shafer and John Tomko are sailing for Team Harken - representing the USA. Send 'em good thoughts!

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John Williams

- The harder you practice, the luckier you get -
Gary Player, pro golfer

After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.
Re: 2005 F-18 Worlds start (Netherlands) [Re: John Williams] #52788
07/11/05 05:17 AM
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See attached

Nice cartwheel

Greg Goodall from AHPC manufactures of the Capricorn in fore ground.


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Re: 2005 F-18 Worlds start (Netherlands) [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #52789
07/11/05 06:19 AM
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yikes - right at A mark too.


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Re: 2005 F-18 Worlds start (Netherlands) [Re: Jake] #52790
07/11/05 06:48 AM
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Perhaps a bit anal, but I think it's B mark (offset mark). There is another mark in the background, and they are about to set the spi, which is a bit early at the A in that wind

They did indeed choose a good place to do that

Those Capricorns have a quite flat underwater section, "me thinks". When will you take delivery of your new boat Steve? We hope for a comparison with the T..

Re: 2005 F-18 Worlds start (Netherlands) [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #52791
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It was indeed the offset-mark.
He completely overrun (is that the word?) that mark.
The video footage is even better (a lot of shouting....)


Re: 2005 F-18 Worlds start (Netherlands) [Re: Boomer] #52792
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Video!! Do you have a link for that?

"ran over" is perhaps more correct, but I am not really qualified to correct your english! I am much more interested in the video you mentioned

Re: 2005 F-18 Worlds start (Netherlands) [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #52793
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Yesterday I was at the press-office where they pre-editted the video-footage. There will be a dvd coming in November
I've asked the Press-officer if there's a possibility to put only that part of the video-footage online.

Re: 2005 F-18 Worlds start (Netherlands) [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #52794
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Those Capricorns have a quite flat underwater section, "me thinks". When will you take delivery of your new boat Steve? We hope for a comparison with the T..


September mate.... Already done a few races on the Capricorn and am very impressed. Lively boat with great upwind hight and good speed. Feels a little weired to sail as it feels like it is planeing upwind and downwind (but Great weired). Also sailed the Tiger and whilst still a good boat, my pic is definatly the Capricorn. Very apealing to the eye with quiet an agressive shape.

Whilst many say it is quicker than other F-18s (including Gashby) I must say from my experience, it feels on the money.


Re: 2005 F-18 Worlds start (Netherlands) [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #52795
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Attached pic of Goodall's Capricorn in action in the Worlds.

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Re: 2005 F-18 Worlds start (Netherlands) [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #52796
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Steve,

Also wondering if you are able to compare the Capricorn to the Nacra F18...sorry for the hijack.


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Re: 2005 F-18 Worlds start (Netherlands) [Re: John Williams] #52797
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Where are all the USA boats I thought there would be more entered, there seem to be plenty active on this forum. The Aussies out number Yanks easily, but I would imagine we have less F18's in OZ.

Regards Gary.

Re: 2005 F-18 Worlds start (Netherlands) [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #52798
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Pity the entry or results lists don't tell us what type of F18 they are sailing, I know some of them but the European sailors are a mystery.

Regards Gary.

Re: 2005 F-18 Worlds start (Netherlands) [Re: Jake] #52799
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Yet to sail on a Nacra F-18 but in Oz the Tigers seem to have the edge on them whilst the Capricorn looks to be the quickest.


Re: 2005 F-18 Worlds start (Netherlands) [Re: ] #52800
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Pity the entry or results lists don't tell us what type of F18 they are sailing, I know some of them but the European sailors are a mystery.

Regards Gary.


Yeah would be nice to see results by manufacture. From what I have heard their could be as many as 35 Capricorns at the Worlds... Most of them are Euro sailors. Pretty impresive considering they are in there first year of production. Currently more Capricorns in Europe than there is in Oz.


Re: 2005 F-18 Worlds start (Netherlands) [Re: ] #52801
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The International F-18 Rules prohibit listing results that include the boat manufacturer. You can download the Rules in PDF format from the NAF18 website (http://www.naf18.com/)under "downloads".


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The International F-18 Rules prohibit listing results that include the boat manufacturer. You can download the Rules in PDF format from the NAF18 website (http://www.naf18.com/)under "downloads".


Les,

Why is that? Wouldn't a little competition between manufacturers be interesting to follow? Certainly car racing shows results based on manufacturer.

Re: 2005 F-18 Worlds start (Netherlands) [Re: BrianK] #52803
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I was thinking the same thing. The only answer I could come up with, was that they wanted to avoid 'the boat of the month' syndrome, according to what boat won the latest championship?


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Why is that? Wouldn't a little competition between manufacturers be interesting to follow? Certainly car racing shows results based on manufacturer.


The rule is:
F.5. RANKING On events sailed under F18 rules, there shall not be specific rankings according to the different competing brands or types.

I have no idea why this was written into the rules, so your guesses are as good as mine. I think the rules were written to try to attract as many manufacturers as possible but still end up with a class where "the nut on the end of the tiller" is still the most important component. It seems to be working from what I have observed in the last few years. It seems to me that the best sailors, regardless of boat, are rising to the top in all competitions.


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Re: 2005 F-18 Worlds start (Netherlands) [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #52805
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I was thinking the same thing. The only answer I could come up with, was that they wanted to avoid 'the boat of the month' syndrome, according to what boat won the latest championship?


Sure, but, its a formula class. Thats the price you pay for having different manufacturers, right? I dont want to rub anyone the wrong way here, but it makes you fell like the rules are trying to downplay that some boats are faster than others (that may not have been the intention of the rule?). I just think it would be cool to see those results.

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