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F-35-C #59028
10/12/05 02:45 PM
10/12/05 02:45 PM
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Michigan, USA
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Does anyone have any information about the Ian Farrier F-35C project? I think it is similar to the F-25C, except it is based on the F-33. It sounds like the ultimate trailerable multihull!


Les Gallagher
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Re: F-35-C [Re: sparky] #59029
10/14/05 04:13 PM
10/14/05 04:13 PM
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Hey Les,

There a currently 2 F35C's being built in Texas right now.

looks like quite a boat.

The problems that I see with it are:

Cost-it looks like it will come in well over 250K

My sister has a f33 #007 Greyhound and from what they say it cost to build that we feel that it is not unrealistic for it to get up there.

Trailering beam is 9'6"-Greyhound is the same beam on the trailer. You know what that means-PERMITS

Trailering size-I have a F/C 31 CC and that is a big boat on the trailer.

The launching and retreving hassle goes up with size.

If you can live with those things you will have the baddest, coolest tralerable tri around.

I don't know if you have heard of Cheekee Monkey, but Kim is having one of the two that are being built to replace his highly modified F/C31. Check out his web site

Cheekee Monkee

If you have real interest in these boats I'm sure my sister & Bro in law would be happy to talk to you about their project

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Re: F-35-C [Re: Tom Korz] #59030
10/15/05 08:36 PM
10/15/05 08:36 PM
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From what I understand...water ballast, canting boards in amas, all carbon, new akas/beams, the builder likes to build one boat at a time with no interruptions, Possibly a January launch of #1. I may gat away to go to Brownsville and chase that boat with my F25c... Ian said" The F25c has a new Bigger and Badder Brother" I have a feeling that sailing this boat will be similar to mine...like a beachcat - with main sheet always in hand and flying the main hull on occasion w/o trying to. My boat weighs around 1700lb with motor and sails this boat should be light but how light who knows....

thom

see post from Farrier below:

"One can't keep anything quiet for long these days, and it is true, the F-25C
now has a bigger and much badder big brother - the F-35C Super Tri.

It's an out and out custom racing version of the F-33, and intended to be
the fastest and most advanced trailerable trimaran one can buy. There are a
number of new features and modifications, including a 52' mast, water
ballast, and optional lifting foils (as per Cheekee Monkee).

All the F-33 molds have now been shipped to Texas to be used for the F-35C,
and construction has been started.

Unfortunately this does not mean that the F-33 will be resuming production
soon, as that will take more resources than I have, but it is a start in the
right direction. In this regard I will be sending out an update to all those
interested in the F-33 soon.

I will then be publishing a new web site on the F-35C with all the details.

As reported, Kim Alfred's F-31 Cheekee Monkee is also having a new set of
all carbon beams made and fitted at Lonestar Multihulls, to replace those
broken recently due to the extra loads from the lifting foils.

This risk is important to note should anyone be thinking of adding such
foils - the beams will need strengthening!! The loads can be 2 to 3 times
higher, and can even be completely reversed at the outer beam ends, which
requires more carbon again. Most beams will thus need to be replaced for
such foils, as it is very difficult to strengthen them enough while in
place.

In this regard I am designing new beams for Cheekee Monkee, similar to those
being used on the new F-32, with internal folding strut mounts (no brackets
or bolts), plus they will be slimmer and more streamlined. They will also
take full advantage of the US 8' 6" trailering width, which allows them to
be 1 1/2" (40mm) higher at the outer ends,

Ian Farrier

Farrier Marine, Inc."


Last edited by thom; 10/15/05 08:59 PM.
Re: F-35-C [Re: thom] #59031
10/16/05 07:02 PM
10/16/05 07:02 PM
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aThose seem to be great boats!

About the float foils, the owner of the only Catri 30 commented that in the two first rides, it was almost impossible to put them in position for sailing, and take them out for folding, due to size and weight.

I hope the designer adopted curved foils for the 35C, like those used in the open 60s. If he kept them straight, he should have designed a very smart canted centreboard system.

The beams are a real concern. They behave differently from those in regular tris. Working with foils, the designer will understand some of the Catri features he criticised. Good for him.

Luiz

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Luiz
Re: F-35-C [Re: Tom Korz] #59032
10/17/05 12:10 PM
10/17/05 12:10 PM
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sparky Offline OP
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Tom,

Thanks for the picture showing your in-laws and you. Also, thanks for the information. I agree with you, Tom, that you have to decide if you want to really have a trailerable boat that large. For me, the money part of the equation will keep me away for the time being. I would be surprised if these come in for less than $300K, based on what I talked to Ian about a few years ago. At that time, he told me I could be the first to order the "Super-Tri" and that he didn't know what the price would be, just that it would be more than the F-33R.

If I get serious about the F-Boats, I may ask to talk to your in-laws! Thanks again!


Les Gallagher

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