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Re: F18 question [Re: Joanna] #97156
01/26/07 09:34 AM
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Hi Joanna -

Look a few posts up - there's a picture of the "anti-fouling" loop that you need. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


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Re: F18 question [Re: John Williams] #97157
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Oh, I think I got it now. I was thinking that the halyard ran on top of the "thingy" and couldn't figure out how that would help. Chalk it up to being a newbie. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Thanks, I will have to suggest we put on our boat.


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Re: F18 question [Re: Joanna] #97158
01/26/07 09:44 AM
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Oh, I think I got it now. I was thinking that the halyard ran on top of the "thingy" and couldn't figure out how that would help. Chalk it up to being a newbie. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Thanks, I will have to suggest we put on our boat.


Same noobiness here...until I pondered it a bit, I thought it odd to run it outside the ring.

Re: F18 question [Re: Stuart_Douglas] #97159
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I've seen a lot of boats with bungee run from the end of the spreaders to the shrouds, which I assume serves the same purpose.

Paul

Re: F18 question [Re: Joanna] #97160
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Oh, I think I got it now. I was thinking that the halyard ran on top of the "thingy" and couldn't figure out how that would help. Chalk it up to being a newbie. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Thanks, I will have to suggest we put on our boat.


All right guys!!!! Don't even start!

Re: F18 question [Re: fin.] #97161
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You know guys-I was serious-I have only been crewing for a year now so I'm still a little slow at figuring out things. I think the bungee cord is a great idea too. Any thing to make my job pulling that halyard easier is greatly appreciated.-(If you ever meet me in person you will know what I am talking about)

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Re: F18 question [Re: Joanna] #97162
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I'm sure you're fine. It's just that, "boys will be boys". <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Re: F18 question [Re: fin.] #97163
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Or in sailing terms, "bouys will be bouys."

Re: F18 question [Re: pdwarren] #97164
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I've seen a lot of boats with bungee run from the end of the spreaders to the shrouds, which I assume serves the same purpose.

Paul


I've been using the bunji tied from the tip of the spreader to the shroud - it works great, but it's a bit of a pain to rig. I think I'm going to go with a loop setup like John's "thingy".


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Re: F18 question [Re: pdwarren] #97165
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I've seen a lot of boats with bungee run from the end of the spreaders to the shrouds, which I assume serves the same purpose.

Paul


That is to stop the trap wires catching behind the spreader. We run both the loop as pictured earlier as well as the bungie.


Re: F18 question [Re: Joanna] #97166
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add some zip ties to the spreader arms and feed the halyard through that.

Re: F18 question [Re: Jake] #97167
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I think I'm going to go with a loop setup like John's "thingy".


Jake:

You, of all people, are paying too much attention to John's thingy.

Re: F18 question [Re: Joanna] #97168
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Is there any thing I can do to prevent that from happening?


See JW's "thingy".


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Re: F18 question [Re: Dan_Delave] #97169
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I think I'm going to go with a loop setup like John's "thingy".


Jake:

You, of all people, are paying too much attention to John's thingy.


I becoming sorry that I started that.


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Re: F18 question [Re: pdwarren] #97170
01/26/07 05:51 PM
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I've seen a lot of boats with bungee run from the end of the spreaders to the shrouds, which I assume serves the same purpose.

Paul


On the Tiger it's not so much a problem with the spi but the trap lines getting snagged behind the spreaders which is why we run the bungee chord.

Tiger Mike

Re: F18 question [Re: Tornado_ALIVE] #97171
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Wouldn't a bungee from the spreader to the shrouds serve to limit mast rotation though??? I would think in light wind especially that would be a bit of a problem??


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Re: F18 question [Re: JoeLeonard] #97172
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in light air you use the bingbongs anyways.

Re: F18 question [Re: JoeLeonard] #97173
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Wouldn't a bungee from the spreader to the shrouds serve to limit mast rotation though??? I would think in light wind especially that would be a bit of a problem??


Nah, use a small diameter bunji (1/8") and tie it loosely so that it only gets slightly snug when the mast is rotated away from the shroud. Works fine. I've never had a problem with my trap wires getting hung on the spreaders on the Nacras - but we did experience that a bit with the Cap during Tradewinds. Easy fix though.


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Re: F18 question [Re: Jake] #97174
01/27/07 05:47 PM
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The issue on the Cap was the fork at the top of the diamond wires. I'd reminded myself about a dozen times to tape those. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> The bungee trick would not have prevented it. Rigging tape on there now. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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Re: F18 question [Re: JoeLeonard] #97175
01/28/07 05:25 AM
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Wouldn't a bungee from the spreader to the shrouds serve to limit mast rotation though??? I would think in light wind especially that would be a bit of a problem??



Yes, that is why its use has largely been abandonned again. At least by racers overhere.

Wouter


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