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before and after nacra 5.2

Posted By: airborne

before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/27/07 04:33 AM

Winds were about 20knots waves were about 1-2 feet. There we were, flying a hull catching a hobie 16 and all of a sudden CRACK!!!

After restoring the 5.2 over the winter and putting more money in it then it is worth, I still don't regret anything.
My son and I were having the time of our lives when it broke and I don't know how much more time I will have with him. He is a senior this year and going off to collage to texas A&M to become a 3rd mate and on to a captain. So if it had to break it was the best time possible and no one was hurt.

So if anybody needs any almost new nacra 5.2 parts let me know.

airborne

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Posted By: gree2056

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/27/07 04:49 AM

Do you know why or how this happened? I need to know how to prevent this!

And I might be interested in some parts, if the price is right I might just buy what is left off you. Send me a PM to talk about it.
Posted By: Timbo

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/27/07 10:44 AM

All you need is a port hull and you are back in business.
Posted By: airborne

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/27/07 10:48 AM

The starboard hull has two 4" holes also.

airborne
Posted By: Timbo

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/27/07 10:53 AM

Youch, I didn't see that untill I looked again, was that where your feet went when the port hull broke? Well, you have lots of parts there to sell, maybe you can recoupe some of the investment. So sorry, it was a beautiful restoration.
Posted By: Jake

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/27/07 11:45 AM

No doubt. Truly a beautiful restoration and sad to see.
Posted By: airborne

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/27/07 05:39 PM

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Youch, I didn't see that untill I looked again, was that where your feet went when the port hull broke? Well, you have lots of parts there to sell, maybe you can recoupe some of the investment. So sorry, it was a beautiful restoration.


My son and I were trapped out. I was at the rear beam and my son was by the starboard side stay. Needless to say, he went flying forward when the hull snapped. We did not pitch pole or anything, it just sat there floating on 1 1/2 hulls for about 5 min. before the port filled enough to sink. When it did as it was sinking we just climbed on the starboard as it rolled.

Thanks for the kind words from everyone.

airborne
Posted By: Jake

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/27/07 06:13 PM

As a postmortem, looking at the spider cracks and the irregular tearing, it looks like the inside top edge of the hull collapsed leading to the failure.

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Posted By: airborne

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/27/07 06:56 PM

I think you are right. It was a great ride while it lasted.

airborne
Posted By: jody

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/27/07 07:45 PM

That does seem to be the most appropriate way for a cat to go. So much better then rotting away in the back of a yard.
Sorry to see such a nice rebuild die though.
Posted By: DHO

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/27/07 08:04 PM

This is a sad sight to see. Does insurance cover any of this?

D. Ho
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Posted By: waterbug_wpb

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/27/07 08:27 PM

Normal wear and tear or "internal vice" are not covered under insurance in most instances. Check your policy.

Dude, just slap some duct tape on that, and you're good to go.... <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Posted By: Mary

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/27/07 11:42 PM

Airborne,
What happened to that broken-off bow section? Do you still have it?

I'm thinking that somebody who has some land available should start a cat cemetery -- not where boats are actually buried, but some identifying part(s)of the boat are set up like headstones, and with some basic information about the boat class and history of the specific boat and how and when it was born and died.

It would be nice to have a place where all the cat designs that have ever been conceived and built can be memorialized.

I first thought about this when we were at Vancouver, BC, at the Jericho Sailing Center back in the early 1990's. I have never seen so many cats in one place, and most of them had not moved for years. Grass growing tall around them. I took video of numerous cats that I had never heard of before, maybe one-offs. I hope I still have that video somewhere.

I just think it would be great to have some kind of central place, with the "cemetery" and a catamaran museum, maybe, too.

As it is, manufacturers modify, discontinue, destroy molds, and home builders/designers come up with prototypes that never go anywhere because either they are no good or nobody knows about them.....and history slips away.
Posted By: Jake

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/28/07 12:31 AM

I have two Nacra 6.0 sterns (about 3' long) I can donate. Ooo...I just remembered that they have the port covers on them! I need that - lost one on the F18 this weekend.
Posted By: David Parker

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/28/07 01:19 AM

Something like this...Cat-illac Ranch?
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Posted By: Mary

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/28/07 01:55 AM

Yeah!
Posted By: airborne

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/28/07 04:29 PM

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This is a sad sight to see. Does insurance cover any of this?

D. Ho
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Funny you should mention that, I went to the insurance company on thursday to insure it but the secretary said the agent would have to take pictures of it and that the pictures that I had in hand would not work. He HAD to take the pictures. She also said he would not be back in the office till mon. So I said to the secretary that I would come back on mon. The break happened on that Saturday.

As a wise man once said "Don't put off 'til tomorrow what you can do today. For tomorrow may be too late ..."

airborne
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Posted By: warbird

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/28/07 08:59 PM

You can imagine the insurance dude though....oh, I insured it two days ago for more than it is usually woirth and now it is.........??
Posted By: airborne

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 08/28/07 10:11 PM

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You can imagine the insurance dude though....oh, I insured it two days ago for more than it is usually woirth and now it is.........??


<img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> That would have been great <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

airborne
Posted By: erice

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 09/18/07 12:35 PM

would this have anything to with what happened?

http://www.catsailor.net/cgi-bin/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000406.html

will be dropping my little digicam in my 5.2 hulls asap

eric e
Posted By: ubicomp

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 09/18/07 03:43 PM

Ok, that post has me afraid. Now I want to inspect inside my 30-year old 5.2 hulls
Posted By: gree2056

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 09/18/07 04:19 PM

Yeah, that isn't cool, looks like I have some looking to do also, but I am pretty sure my bulkheads look different than those do.
Posted By: PTP

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 09/18/07 04:25 PM

i think it is a good idea to take internal digital pics. not like it costs anything. Even if it is only to understand a little more about the internal workings. That thread really tells you you need to keep an eye in the innards, esp on older boats.
Posted By: airborne

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 09/18/07 06:05 PM

Hind sight is 20/20. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

And yes Mary I do have the broken nose part.
Posted By: erice

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 09/18/07 10:46 PM

not too sure but i assume those are australian made nacras and the bulkheads may be different on usa made ones. esp as it seems there were 3 different bulkhead types used over there

i,ll try and post some of the pics i find of my 1982 hulls so we can get an idea of what differences there are. the more different years we can get the better

eric e
Posted By: gree2056

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 09/19/07 02:09 AM

I have an 81, I just checked all my bulkheads and they all look good and have no cracks and are attached all the way around.
Posted By: erice

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 09/19/07 05:21 AM

i wouldn't kick yourself too hard airborne, from the look of your pics your hull failed just forward of a solid bulkhead
don't think a digicam down the inspection ports could have picked up any signs of impending doom eric e
Posted By: airborne

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 09/19/07 06:03 PM

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i wouldn't kick yourself too hard airborne, from the look of your pics your hull failed just forward of a solid bulkhead
don't think a digicam down the inspection ports could have picked up any signs of impending doom eric e


Actually all the bulkheads are very solid. The stringers in front of the bulkhead on the outboard side must have been delamed. The reason I say this just under the stringer flange was dirty like it has been seperated for a while. If you look under other stringers the flange is clean like it just became delamed.

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airborne
Posted By: erice

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 09/20/07 07:29 AM

which makes me wonder how difficult it would be to lift those decks for an inspection, as the aussies did to repair the 5.8

maybe i'll just have a careful feel/flex around first

erice
Posted By: Fearless_Rider

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 09/20/07 11:02 AM

3 years ago I reworked the interior of both my 5.2 hulls; in front of and behind the front cross beam. Delamination of the stringers is quite common in boats of that age. I reinforced all stringers and installed 3 bulkheads in each hull in front of the forward cross beam. In addition I installed bulkheads immediately infront of and behind the dagger board wells.The decks were easily removed, a lot easier than my P19 was. In the end I added about 6 lbs per hull.
Posted By: Clayton

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 09/20/07 12:57 PM

And how does one remove the decks?
Posted By: erice

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 09/20/07 02:21 PM

while checking out my bulkheads today i found a this little name badge in the aft of the port hull easily visible with the rear hatch off, presumably the guy who laid up the hulls? who did yours airborne? pic attached

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Posted By: airborne

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 09/20/07 07:08 PM

I could not find any plate.

airborne
Posted By: chloemac00

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 10/05/07 12:05 PM

Do you still have any parts to your Nacra? If so, please let me know.
george.chambers@bjservices.com
Posted By: erice

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 10/16/07 03:46 AM

see here for supercat carnage

http://owners.aquarius-sail.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=248
Posted By: HealeyBN7

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 10/20/07 10:41 PM

Airborne - check out these pics. We are still cleaning up our boat, but your boat lives on! Thank you for all the great sails, blocks and spare parts!!

Dean

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Posted By: davefarmer

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 10/21/07 12:48 AM

I've got a SC20 bow to contribute.

Dave
Posted By: erice

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 10/21/07 11:27 AM

do you still have the tramp airborne?
Posted By: airborne

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 10/21/07 03:35 PM

Wow it looks great. It kinda reminds me of another one, but just can't remember where <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />. Glad I could help out.

airborne
Posted By: airborne

Re: before and after nacra 5.2 - 10/21/07 03:37 PM

Sorry but, no. Gone about a week.
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